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MSkiPatrol

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Aug 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/25/99
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My 96 Quest has recently exhibited a problem where the
vehicle locks itself. This happened once with the keys in
the ignition and the doors closed. NOT fun ! Its totally
random, sometimes happens while driving down the road,
sometimes when the vehicle is sitting still. I located some
information on the NHTSA homepage and found that there
are several Nissan service bulletins for this problem. The
vehicle is out of warranty. Does anyone know a solution
for this problem or know what Nissan service bulletin
97111598006B is about ?


Rick Carrell

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Aug 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/25/99
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Based upon traffic seen earlier on this NG it is likely that the
problem is an electrical connection associated with a lock cylinder
(switch?), typically in the driver's door.

I've not had to deal with this yet on my Villager, so I'm aware
what the exact fix is (although I guess it involves replacing the
switch or lock cylinder).

--
Rick Carrell, Sr. Hardware Engineer
Wind River Systems, Global Consulting
401 East Corporate Dr., Suite 252, Lewisville, TX, 75057
v:972-221-9857, f:972-353-9724, e: ri...@wrs.com

Tom Waugh

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Aug 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/27/99
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I have the same problem with a 95 which occurs from time to time. The
dealer tells me that Nissan is aware of the problem, but contemplates no
fix or has no fix. And, based on my experience with a couple of Maximas
that had VTC problems, once the warranty is gone, you are on your own.
But, in reality that's all they are obligated to do. By the way, we are
trying to sell the 95...with no luck yet unless we give it away for around
$8500 for a fully loaded Quest.

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Chris

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Aug 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/28/99
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Same problem with my '93 Villager LS. It's driving my wife *crazy*!
Chris

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levet...@nima.mil

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Sep 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/2/99
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MSkiPatrol -

Try this site:
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/tsb/service
mmy1.cfm
Use the pulldown menu on the left side to slowly
narrow your search (Use Mercury Truck or Nissan
Truck as the "Make", and "Equipment:Electric
Power Accecories:Locks:Doors" as the "type of
component"). I looked at the 96 Quest, and it
didn't have near the listings as the Villager
(despite the fact they all come off the same
production line). I have a 96 Villager exhibiting
the same problems, and this site has 8 service
bulletins listed for the Villager. Now the real
question: what course of action can we take???

Brian


In article <19990825123316...@ng-fr1.aol.com>,


mskip...@aol.com (MSkiPatrol) wrote:
> My 96 Quest has recently exhibited a problem where the
> vehicle locks itself. This happened once with the keys in
> the ignition and the doors closed. NOT fun ! Its totally
> random, sometimes happens while driving down the road,
> sometimes when the vehicle is sitting still. I located some
> information on the NHTSA homepage and found that there
> are several Nissan service bulletins for this problem. The
> vehicle is out of warranty. Does anyone know a solution
> for this problem or know what Nissan service bulletin
> 97111598006B is about ?
>
>


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rraf...@aol.com

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Sep 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/2/99
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I've been having the same problem with my 1993 Quest. What a pain.
They went in once and bent some bar. Now they are replacing a part in
the door. $$$ each time. I think there is a flaw and they are not
admitting to this fact. “Not repeatable” was their response for 4
years. Now 2 years outside of warranty period they admit they can
repeat it. I have a quest and a maxima and this little thing is
changing my opinion on their overall quality. Take care.

Steve Cutchen

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Sep 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/6/99
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Rick Carrell <ri...@wrs.com> wrote:

>Based upon traffic seen earlier on this NG it is likely that the
>problem is an electrical connection associated with a lock cylinder
>(switch?), typically in the driver's door.
>
>I've not had to deal with this yet on my Villager, so I'm aware
>what the exact fix is (although I guess it involves replacing the
>switch or lock cylinder).
>

>MSkiPatrol wrote:
>>
>> My 96 Quest has recently exhibited a problem where the
>> vehicle locks itself. This happened once with the keys in
>> the ignition and the doors closed. NOT fun ! Its totally
>> random, sometimes happens while driving down the road,
>> sometimes when the vehicle is sitting still. I located some
>> information on the NHTSA homepage and found that there
>> are several Nissan service bulletins for this problem. The
>> vehicle is out of warranty. Does anyone know a solution
>> for this problem or know what Nissan service bulletin
>> 97111598006B is about ?

That traffic was probably from me, Rick.

Here's the deal, as posted on the Villager Quest Owner's Resource page:
http://www.loudoun-net.com/haines/villagerquest.htm

---Steve

=-=-=-=
Question: The power door locks on my '96 Villager have developed a mind of
their own. Locking the van when opening the front passenger door or when
unlocking with the remote keyless transmitter.

Answer: I have not had a chance to track the problem down yet, but I
suspect I have an overly sensitive set of switch contacts. If anybody has a
fix for this I would like to hear from you. I did find that Ford has the
following TSBs that mention this problem. The TSB numbers are: 98-23-6,
98-22-5, 98-20-12, and 97-2-13. One of these days I'll ask the service guys
at the local dealer about these TSBs, because I don't have the details of
these TSBs. I did come across a few comments on the news groups about the
problem being caused by moisture in one of the connectors, or a problem
with the keyless entry module. The moisture bit is not likely my problem
since it happens even though it has not rained for days.

I did get the following comments from Steve Cutchen who fixed his door lock
problem:

I traced the problem to something in the driver's side door mechanical
keylock... the literal part inside the door at the keyhole. When locking
the driver's side door lock from outside with the key, all of the other
doors lock as well. The electrical contact that signals the power locks
from the keylock was evidently activating some of the times when the door
closed. Mechanically something inside the lock assembly was making the
electrical connection when jarred. The proper solution was probably to
replace the lock assembly. But that wasn't my solution. I have remote
operated locks that came with my alarm system. So I never use the keyhole
lock, much less the "lock the other doors for me" feature. What I did was
cut the wire, disabling all electrical connection between the key lock
mechanism and the power locks. On my '93 Villager there is a green/red
stripe wire which goes from the door lock actuator assembly to power door
lock module (or the keyless entry module, if you have that). (the modules
are in the center console area...) I cut this wire inside the driver's
door. I then twisted on a small wire nut on the end coming from the power
door lock module to keep the wire from contacting a ground.

Here's the description from the shop manual on how to remove the door panel...

1. Remove the door latch handle trim.
2. Slip a clean shop rag between the window crank handle and the front door
trim panel, if equipped. Pull the shop rag back and forth to release the
window crank handle clip
3. Remove the two cover caps and front door trim panel screws.
4. Remove the two front door trim panel capped screws.
5. Pull out on the panel beginning at a bottom corner to release the
plastic push-pin clips.
6. Pull up on the front door trim panel from the top to release it from the
door panel
7. Disconnect the door lock/unlock switch and power window switch
electrical connectors, if equipped.
8. You now own the front door trim panel.

To install, reverse the removal procedure.

Once you get the panel off, you'll find a thin water shield held in place
on the door by a rubber adhesive. Carefully pull the shield away from the
door without tearing it. You'll be able to just stick it back to the
existing rubber adhesive... it stays tacky. =-=-=-=

---Steve Cutchen O- | As published in Houston Chronicle Sports &
scut...@phoenix.net | heard on the Houston Astros Postgame TV Show

kevi...@my-deja.com

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Sep 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/7/99
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In article <7qlofa$atf$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

levet...@nima.mil wrote:
> MSkiPatrol -
>
> Try this site:
>
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/tsb/service
> mmy1.cfm
> Use the pulldown menu on the left side to slowly
> narrow your search (Use Mercury Truck or Nissan
> Truck as the "Make", and "Equipment:Electric
> Power Accecories:Locks:Doors" as the "type of
> component"). I looked at the 96 Quest, and it
> didn't have near the listings as the Villager
> (despite the fact they all come off the same
> production line). I have a 96 Villager
exhibiting
> the same problems, and this site has 8 service
> bulletins listed for the Villager. Now the real
> question: what course of action can we take???
>
> Brian
>
> In article
<19990825123316...@ng-fr1.aol.com>,

> mskip...@aol.com (MSkiPatrol) wrote:
> > My 96 Quest has recently exhibited a problem
where the
> > vehicle locks itself. This happened once with
the keys in
> > the ignition and the doors closed. NOT fun !
Its totally
> > random, sometimes happens while driving down
the road,
> > sometimes when the vehicle is sitting still. I
located some
> > information on the NHTSA homepage and found
that there
> > are several Nissan service bulletins for this
problem. The
> > vehicle is out of warranty. Does anyone know a
solution
> > for this problem or know what Nissan service
bulletin
> > 97111598006B is about ?
> >
> >
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
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>

I am having the same problem with my 96 Quest.
Has there been a recall or any help/info from
Nisan?

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