If more than 3 attempts have been made to start the car the NATS system put
the car in lock mode, once in lock mode there is nothing that can be done.
It will need to be towed to the dealership to have the lock out condition
cleared.
Causes for lock mode
1. use of and unregistered key
2. use of an non chip key
3. interference from another transponder device like a Mobil speedpass.
another possibility is that the IMMU unit has gone bad and the system does
not recognize the key(s)
be sure to take all the keys with you to the dealership as they all need to
be programmed at the same time..
Bottom line here is the car needs to go to the dealership
"Bob" <rki...@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
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never propose going to the evil DEALER - you might get flamed by the
ONE,,,LOL
KMA Kia driver.
>AZV14 wrote:
>
>> OOOOO,,,!!
>>
>> never propose going to the evil DEALER - you might get flamed by
>> the ONE,,,LOL
>
>You are truly a clueless one. Did someone else write your
>engineering exams for you? Try to pay attention to what is said and
>maybe you won't look like such a dumbass next time. Note that I said
>'maybe'.
>
>NissTech is not a fool like yourself that suggests taking the vehicle
>to the dealer for tire pressure checks and other easily done PM by
>the owner. He has actual skill in the topics he is answering. You
>rarely do. Get the difference?
>
>As has been mentioned before, perhaps you should stick with something
>you know something about. It is possible that you might be an OK
>chemical engineer but you certainly suck at answering questions here.
He never reads, ak a make that , comprehends the post,,just sees the
word DEALER and goes into a meaningless tirade,
Maybe he got fired from a Dealer - which makes me all the more
comfortable generally recommending that people take their $35K cars
there to ensure they get fixed properly.
As usual, he makes up nonsense - like getting the "tire pressure
checked at the dealer". Apparently ONE thinks that check engine
lights, dirty fuel injectors, the ECU, the MAF sensor, O2 sensors,
and the like also fall into the "tire pressure" general maintenance
classification.
Nissan tech is a real mechanic, who obviously understands real 21st
century cars, ONE isn't a mechanic, he just plays one on the
internet. He has never made a single usefull post - all he ever does
is tell people that do that they are wrong, because he thinks so.
Oh and BTW,,,your now probably on Ones "flame list" for pointing out
his blatant stupidity - you will soon have to put him on your ignore
list like I did.
But this permanent immobilizing is lame. I have no fear of thief where I
live and would surely disable this feature if possible now that I have been
a victim of its consequences. Too bad that they did not provide a simple
way for the owner to reset the ignition. After all, I do have two keys
that, until now, were allowed to start my car. One misuse of an incorrect
key should not leave me in need of a tow. Luckly for me I was not somewhere
far from home! Certainly a better recovery system could have been devised.
Thanks again for the advice however, Bob
"Chuck In Dallas" <gold...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Again you post lies,,,
One person, who owned a 95, with 200K on it (book value of about 1500
bucks), said it was easy to do,,,might be worth risking on a car that
old, the original posters car was a 2004.
I said its easier to screw up,,for 200 bucks you can have a dealer do
a complete de carb and flush the fuel injectors - using Nissan
approved solvents,,,and then they will test drive it and run a
diagnostic,,, The original poster had a P0170 code - most likely not
even a TB issue anyway,,,,the evil dealer could have diagnosed that
to.
Me thinks your the reincarnation of that moron willkieup - he thought
all problems could be solved using a can of contact cleaner and a cue
tip - and if you didn't believe him you could go to his 15 years out
of date car repair web site for even more laughs.
Nobody <n...@home.anymore> wrote:
>AZV14 wrote:
>
>> Chuck,,Thanks, but I am afraid there isn't a hook and a pole long
>> enough to pull this guys head out of his ass.
>
>Well, the distance yours has been parked up your rear of late, you
>should know.
>
>> He never reads, ak a make that , comprehends the post,,just sees
>> the word DEALER and goes into a meaningless tirade,
>
>That is just another childish bit of crap by you. You 'need' to take
>your vehicle to a dealer as you don't seem to be able to check tire
>pressure or fluid levels on your own. Did you notice how many others
>said cleaning the throttle body was EASY to do while you said it had
>to be done by the dealer.
>
>> Maybe he got fired from a Dealer - which makes me all the more
>> comfortable generally recommending that people take their $35K
>> cars there to ensure they get fixed properly.
>
>Sounds more like you OWN a dealership. Or should I say your dad
>does.
>
>> As usual, he makes up nonsense - like getting the "tire pressure
>> checked at the dealer". Apparently ONE thinks that check engine
>> lights, dirty fuel injectors, the ECU, the MAF sensor, O2
>> sensors, and the like also fall into the "tire pressure" general
>> maintenance classification.
>
>I certasinly do not. I also believe that you don't need to be that
>clever to clean your throttle body. If the person is as inept as you
>appear to be, perhaps it is best to have the dealer do everything. I
>gather you can't change your own oil either.
>
>> Nissan tech is a real mechanic, who obviously understands real
>> 21st century cars,
>
>He certainly seems to. He probably also knows that you don't have to
>take your vehicle to the dealer like you do for everything.
>
>> all he ever does is tell people that do that they are wrong,
>> because he thinks so.
>
>That is an outright lie. The ONLY person I have said was wrong was
>YOU. You seem to have taken offense to that. Grow up.
>
>> Oh and BTW,,,your now probably on Ones "flame list" for pointing
>> out his blatant stupidity
>
>The funny thing is that you percieve anything I have said to you to
>be a 'flame'. More childish comments. How thin IS your skin anyway?
>
>> you will soon have to put him on your ignore list like I did.
>
>Yes, sure you did. You are too worried about how people laugh at
>your chemical engineering skills to killfile anyone.
Please re post any constructive information that you have posted on
this group - say repair costs, trouble code interpretations, and so
forth,,,
Please post any situations where a major repair issue did not end up
having to be fixed by a dealer.....I am not talking about your silly
tire pressure changing oil nonsense.
Answer the question - where you fired from a Nissan dealership - you
seem to have some pathological hatred of them,,? When Nissan Tech told
the poster his car had to go to the dealer, you apparently couldnt
even comprehend his post properly - and burst into your anti dealer
diatribe again.
Nobody <n...@home.anymore> wrote:
>AZV14 wrote:
>
>> Chuck,,Thanks, but I am afraid there isn't a hook and a pole long
>> enough to pull this guys head out of his ass.
>
>Well, the distance yours has been parked up your rear of late, you
>should know.
>
>> He never reads, ak a make that , comprehends the post,,just sees
>> the word DEALER and goes into a meaningless tirade,
>
>That is just another childish bit of crap by you. You 'need' to take
>your vehicle to a dealer as you don't seem to be able to check tire
>pressure or fluid levels on your own. Did you notice how many others
>said cleaning the throttle body was EASY to do while you said it had
>to be done by the dealer.
>
>> Maybe he got fired from a Dealer - which makes me all the more
>> comfortable generally recommending that people take their $35K
>> cars there to ensure they get fixed properly.
>
>Sounds more like you OWN a dealership. Or should I say your dad
>does.
>
>> As usual, he makes up nonsense - like getting the "tire pressure
>> checked at the dealer". Apparently ONE thinks that check engine
>> lights, dirty fuel injectors, the ECU, the MAF sensor, O2
>> sensors, and the like also fall into the "tire pressure" general
>> maintenance classification.
>
>I certasinly do not. I also believe that you don't need to be that
>clever to clean your throttle body. If the person is as inept as you
>appear to be, perhaps it is best to have the dealer do everything. I
>gather you can't change your own oil either.
>
>> Nissan tech is a real mechanic, who obviously understands real
>> 21st century cars,
>
>He certainly seems to. He probably also knows that you don't have to
>take your vehicle to the dealer like you do for everything.
>
>> all he ever does is tell people that do that they are wrong,
>> because he thinks so.
>
>That is an outright lie. The ONLY person I have said was wrong was
>YOU. You seem to have taken offense to that. Grow up.
>
>> Oh and BTW,,,your now probably on Ones "flame list" for pointing
>> out his blatant stupidity
>
>The funny thing is that you percieve anything I have said to you to
>be a 'flame'. More childish comments. How thin IS your skin anyway?
>
>> you will soon have to put him on your ignore list like I did.
>