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Xpditor

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Oct 30, 2003, 9:57:20 AM10/30/03
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I waited 14 years to replace my 1990 Maxima - waiting for a style injection
which finally came in 2003 (love it or hate it). However, I can't get over
that ugly grille with the big chrome center piece and Nissan logo blocking
air to the radiator. It sucks!

Question: Are they still making Maximas in Japan? How do the new ones
(2003-2004) compare with my 1990 in quality, fit and finish? I was
impressed with my old one.


Kai

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Oct 30, 2003, 10:31:25 AM10/30/03
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"Xpditor" <xpd...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Don't see a Maxima, however: Remember that the Japanese don't have Infiniti,
either. (Nor do they have Acura or Lexus - those are just American marketing
tricks.)

http://www.nissan.co.jp/CARLINEUP/70TH2/

This has their car lineup. I'm thinking that the Skyline looks much like a
Maxima. But I don't read kanji character sets, so I can't read much.

K


Joe

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Oct 30, 2003, 2:50:40 PM10/30/03
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Those Skylines at that site are clearly what we know in the US as the
Infinity G35 sedan and the G35 coupe. The new Maxima's have strayed so
far from the 3rd Generation Maxima 4DSC, that they are now just another
4 door sedan. The difference between the Max and the Altima are so
small that there is no way those two product lines can remain separate
very long.

The Infiniti G35 Sedan is the true heir to Nissan's 4 Door Sports Car
concept that started with the 3rd generation Maxima.. Which is
unfortunate, since I dislike paying the premium they charge for the
Infinity logo. Still, the G35 sedan is what I'd buy if I wanted 4
doors and performance - not the new Maxima. (Road and Tracked dissed
the new Maxima with the simple, yet accurate phrase: "Maxima, thy name
is torque steer.")

--Joe, (proud owner of a 1989 Maxima SE, still going strong at 185,000
miles.)

Kai

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Oct 30, 2003, 5:40:18 PM10/30/03
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"Joe" <nos...@privacyconcern.com> wrote in message
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> Those Skylines at that site are clearly what we know in the US as the
> Infinity G35 sedan and the G35 coupe. The new Maxima's have strayed so
> far from the 3rd Generation Maxima 4DSC, that they are now just another
> 4 door sedan. The difference between the Max and the Altima are so
> small that there is no way those two product lines can remain separate
> very long.
>
> The Infiniti G35 Sedan is the true heir to Nissan's 4 Door Sports Car
> concept that started with the 3rd generation Maxima.. Which is
> unfortunate, since I dislike paying the premium they charge for the
> Infinity logo. Still, the G35 sedan is what I'd buy if I wanted 4
> doors and performance - not the new Maxima. (Road and Tracked dissed
> the new Maxima with the simple, yet accurate phrase: "Maxima, thy name
> is torque steer.")
>
> --Joe, (proud owner of a 1989 Maxima SE, still going strong at 185,000
> miles.)
>


Okay, I wasn't sure - and don't read Japanese.

WOW - an '89 with only 185,00 miles? How do you do it?

K


nmore

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Oct 31, 2003, 12:20:22 AM10/31/03
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Sort of...the closest thing to the current Max is a model called the Teana.
Shares a number of visual similarities to the new Max, but there are
significant differences in the bodywork. The Teana has a grille similar to
the Infiniti M45/Nissan Gloria, the rear fenders have flowing (some might
say bulging) shoulders that the Max doesn't, and the cut of the c-pillar is
different. Dimensionally, the Max is slightly bigger in almost all
dimensions. The link below has a summary of Nissan's Altima derivatives:

http://autozine.kyul.net/html/Nissan2.htm

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Joe

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Oct 31, 2003, 10:45:17 AM10/31/03
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Kai wrote:

> WOW - an '89 with only 185,00 miles? How do you do it?

Hmm, your not from the usual crowd of people that think 185,000 miles
is a lot, are you? :-) Most of my neighbors are horrified at the
thought of driving any car past 40,000 miles or so. And the look I got
from one neighbor was priceless when I told her the "new" (and gorgeous)
1993 300ZX I bought last month "only" had 99,000 miles on it! LOL

But to answer your question, the Max has "only" 185,000 miles is because
we have other cars in the family fleet: the '96 minivan bought new and
now has 140,000 miles, the Max bought used in '92 with 30,000 miles that
was my daily driver (round-trip commute to work was only 20 miles), and
is now my son's ride (high school), and now the 300ZX for my daily
driver. (Also not counting the 240Z that I bought new in '73, and is up
on blocks patiently waiting restoration for the last 8 years or so. As
soon as I can find the time to start a nuts and bolts up restoration....
It only has 180,000+ miles too! )

Nissan 6 cylinder engines are incredibly reliable. Accessories may wear
out, but that engine does not.

--Joe

Stephen Narayan

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Oct 31, 2003, 9:52:18 PM10/31/03
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:57:20 -0500, "Xpditor" <xpd...@bellsouth.net>
wrote:

The 2003 Max is still manufactured in Japan....The new 2004 we get
here in NA is manufactured and final assemblly in Smyrna TN..


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Don Sussman

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Nov 1, 2003, 11:55:16 AM11/1/03
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Bought a 2004 SE 5 speed automatic in May, 4500 miles now

Build Quality - Almost perfect out of the box, 2 flaws, very minor, a rubber
bumper between trunk lid and trunk was missing. They ordered one and it was
installed in 30 seconds. An occasional rattle in rear parcel / speaker
shelf. Haven't had the time to get it looked at yet, but very minor.

Looks - While you can't argue taste, I am constantly surprised at the
number of compliments we get on the looks of the car. Nissan took a gamble
on a"rad" look and it seems to have worked, even here in conservative New
England.

Great to drive - smooth tenacious and no real sign of the "dreaded torque
steer".I guess you have to push really hard to find it. I have owned 6
front wheel drive cars 1 Saab, 1 Pontiac, 1 Mazda, 2 Hondas, and a beloved
92 Max Se 5sp manual, some of these had more evidence of torque steer than
the 04 SE (of course except for the 92 Max none of them had near the power
of the 04). I often wonder if auto reviewers just read each other's stuff
and add a little to show they are working. I remember the rather mediocre
reviews on my 92 SE and that turns out to be the best car including (Saabs
Volvos and accords we ever owned, till now )

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Don Sussman

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Nov 1, 2003, 11:55:59 AM11/1/03
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Mike

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Nov 2, 2003, 6:33:52 PM11/2/03
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Try racing an '04 with your '90, and you'll easily get over the aesthetics
of the grill. I actually had one try last night. I bet that guy is at the
dealership now. lol

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Mike

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Nov 2, 2003, 7:17:13 PM11/2/03
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I actually like the grill.... here's a pic I posted of it a while back in a
different forum.
http://www.sportbikes.com/UBBimages/467381-maxima_grill.jpg
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Kai

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Nov 4, 2003, 5:18:38 PM11/4/03
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"Joe" <nos...@privacyconcern.com> wrote in message
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> Kai wrote:
>
> > WOW - an '89 with only 185,00 miles? How do you do it?
>
> Hmm, your not from the usual crowd of people that think 185,000 miles
> is a lot, are you? :-)

It is a bit, but I often manage about 30+ a year. I've yet to own a car /
truck for less than 125K miles.

My '95 Jimmy had 148,000 when I sold it in 2001.

K


Steve Manifold

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Nov 11, 2003, 10:20:36 AM11/11/03
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Gopher tooth. Yuck.


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Xpditor

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Nov 11, 2003, 10:05:44 PM11/11/03
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My 1990 Maxima has 90,000 original miles and is still in glossy, showroom
condition except for a little wear on the driver seat cushion where you
pivot getting in and out.

It doesn't even have any door dings. Still pristine.


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