Turn Signal Sound
Al
turn signals sound is so low that we frequently forget to turn this off.
It's very annoying to us and other drivers. Before buying another Lexus or
other Toyota product, I'll be sure to first check to see if the turn signal
is loud enough. If not, I'll find another brand that doesn't have that
defect.
Al
Smarty
I recall somebody here or some other Lexus forum mentioning that there
is a volume control located somewhere up in the vicinity of the ignition
switch area of the dashboard which adjusts the audio level for the
directional signals as well as other alert / alarm sounds.
If this is correct, then perhaps a simple adjustment to increase the
volume a bit may be all that you need.
Can anyone here confirm the ability to adjust this control and tell us
where it is located?
Smarty
Here's the discussion. The knob under the ignition controls the confirmation chime when you lock the doors. Unfortunately, the blinker sound volume is not adjustable. "Dennis" <btdb_n...@mail.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:iaak9e$g8m$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
> There's a volume knob under the dash (below the ignition key switch). > > Blinker volume can't be adjusted, I would have like that option myself > > Dennis > > "David Z" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message > news:8is05g...@mid.individual.net...>> Can the volume on the following sounds be increased on the 2004 ES? >> >> - Confirmation chime when you lock the doors with the keyless entry >> device >> >> - Blinkers (directional signals) >>>
Wayne
"Al" <alb...@joimail.com> wrote in message
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If you are not paying attention to driving the car now, why would a louder
sound change anything....you would ignore it also.
Al
"Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:icjaon$3mt$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
It seems a couple of people participating in this discussion are quick to
criticize but have missed the point (or aren't old enough to know better).
It's not a matter of not being a good enough driver or not paying sufficient
attention. The point is that the auto manufacturers include a ticking noise
with the direction signal for a very good reason - to remind you that it's
on, since a good driver will turn on the turn signal for more than just 3 to
5 seconds before turning and will then consentrate on "driving." If the
ticking sound of the turn signal isn't loud enough, it will fail in its
purpose. However, such an obvious fact isn't quickly apparent to some
individuals who ironically think they're so bright.
Al
PS - I also notice that on my Lexus you have to turn the wheel just about to
a 90 degree turn for the turn signal to go off. On other cars I've owned,
it takes less of a turn. Since having and using the turn signal is an
important safety feature, the defect I described could result in some
accidents notwithstanding the rationalizations of some people.
David Z
news:elmop-34A876....@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <KsGdndoK85tFh2nR...@earthlink.com>,
> "Al" <alb...@joimail.com> wrote:
>
>> > If you are not paying attention to driving the car now, why would a
>> > louder
>> > sound change anything....you would ignore it also.
>>
>> It seems a couple of people participating in this discussion are quick to
>> criticize but have missed the point (or aren't old enough to know
>> better).
>> It's not a matter of not being a good enough driver or not paying
>> sufficient
>> attention.
>
>
> There is exactly zero excuse for you NOT to be driving your car at all
> times. That includes knowing where your controls are at all times.
>
> As I explained previously, using the turn signal stalk is not rocket
> science, and does not require loud sirens or flashing strobe lights in
> your eyes to remind you that it's on.
>
> Tell us this: why don't you KNOW that it's on, when it's YOU who turned
> it on and it's YOU who have the responsibility to turn it off or to make
> sure it turns off? What does SOUND add to any of this?
>
> Why turn it on if you don't want it on?
Why have a sound at all?
GIga
GIga
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-35BBD2....@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <KsGdndoK85tFh2nR...@earthlink.com>,
> "Al" <alb...@joimail.com> wrote:
>
>> The point is that the auto manufacturers include a ticking noise
>> with the direction signal for a very good reason - to remind you that
>> it's
>> on, since a good driver will turn on the turn signal for more than just 3
>> to
>> 5 seconds before turning and will then consentrate on "driving."
>
> Tell us all how, when you click your turn signal ON to make a complete
> 90 degree turn, it doesn't automatically turn off--AND how you FORGOT
> that you just made a turn and therefore the CONTROL needs to be RESET to
> OFF?
bob
alb...@joimail.com says...
Al,
So I guess we should forbid all deaf people from driving since they will
never hear the clicking sound. Turn signals both make a sound and flash
a light when they are signaling a turn. Everybody will forget to turn
off their turn signal once in a while, but it's not unreasonable to
expect people to be able to figure out their turn signal is on without
extra loud clicking noises and flash bulb bright visual signals.
Bob
Wayne
Many people live their life in a state of "code white"....not paying
attention to what they are doing when driving, walking down the street,
swimming, etc. etc. etc. As another poster pointed out, making turns
consists of a series of steps which include cancelling the turn signal, if
you have actually locked it in the left or right position. A sound is not
even required. If you need that sound to remind you of the blinker state,
you are not paying attention, and will probably also ignore a louder signal.
However, I don't begrudge your having as loud a reminder as you want.
In the old days, we used hand signalling for turns. After making the turn,
I always remembered to bring my arm back in the window. :)
Ray O
The clicking sound from the turn signal was not originally designed in or
included on purpose. The sound is a byproduct of the mechanism used to turn
the electrical current on and off. Inside the turn signal flasher housing
is a bimetallic switch, which is a piece of metal that heats up when current
is flowing through it, and the shape of the metal piece makes it move away
from the contact when it is hot. The metal makes a sound like what you get
when you crumple an aluminum soda can, and the movement away from the
electrical contact interrupts the electrical current. With no current
flowing through the metal, it cools and the metal pops back and touches the
contact again, repeating the process.
Before the widespread use of plastic, the housing around the turn signal
flasher was made of metal, which transmitted the sounds of the popping
bimetallic switch well. The flashers in modern cars have plastic housings,
and a sturdy housing with a thicker plastic casing will muffle the sound
more than a thinner plastic housing so ironically, a cheaper housing will
result in a louder clicking sound than a more expensive housing.
--
Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
Al
Thanks for your informative reply. It's nice to have knowledgeable and
informative people in this forum besides those who are quick to criticize
and find fault with others. I do have one question, though. If I had a
choice between the old version and the new, I would take the old since the
louder clicking seems safer and cheaper. Do you know of some good reason
why the manufacturer doesn't do that that?
Al
PS-To those who question whether my driving ability is good enough, I will
merely state that I've been driving for over 50 years and there isn't a soul
who has ever been injured due to my driving. I can't remember the last time
I got a ticket for a moving violation, and I'm rated by auto insurance
companies in the very lowest premium bracket. I would think that's plenty
good.
David Z
No response from Mr. Nasty?! How unusual.
Perhaps he doesn't know why there's a sound. Or perhaps he doesn't want to
say why. I presume the latter.
Al
> In article <ns-dnXm62udYE2vR...@earthlink.com>,
> "Al" <alb...@joimail.com> wrote:
>
>> PS-To those who question whether my driving ability is good enough, I
>> will
>> merely state that I've been driving for over 50 years and there isn't a
>> soul
>> who has ever been injured due to my driving.
>
>
> That you don't know the status of your controls, despite your having set
> them yourself mere moments ago PLUS them having lighted displays on your
> dashboard, means you are a menace to everyone else on the road.
Dear nasty,
There's an old Chinese proverb that goes something like, "only a fool argues
with one who cannot be persuaded." Have a nice day!
Al
David Z
> In article <xLWdnXszKsw-ZmrR...@earthlink.com>,
> "Al" <alb...@joimail.com> wrote:
>
>> > That you don't know the status of your controls, despite your having
>> > set
>> > them yourself mere moments ago PLUS them having lighted displays on
>> > your
>> > dashboard, means you are a menace to everyone else on the road.
>>
>> Dear nasty,
>> There's an old Chinese proverb that goes something like, "only a fool
>> argues
>> with one who cannot be persuaded." Have a nice day!
>
Nothing will change the fact that you're a flaming asshole.
David Z
> In article <8lsako...@mid.individual.net>,
> "David Z" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> >> > That you don't know the status of your controls, despite your having
>> >> > set
>> >> > them yourself mere moments ago PLUS them having lighted displays on
>> >> > your
>> >> > dashboard, means you are a menace to everyone else on the road.
>> >>
>> >> Dear nasty,
>> >> There's an old Chinese proverb that goes something like, "only a fool
>> >> argues
>> >> with one who cannot be persuaded." Have a nice day!
>> >
>> > That doesn't change the fact that you are a menace to other drivers.
>>
>> Nothing will change the fact that you're a flaming asshole.
>
> asshole".
No, you're just a flaming asshole and everyone here knows it except you.
Why do all car makers put a sound in the blinker? This question seems to
have rendered you mute. Apparently, your motto is "if you can't say
something nasty, don't say anything at all.."
David Z
> In article <8ltdfi...@mid.individual.net>,
> "David Z" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> > Apparently, in David Z's world speaking the truth makes one a "flaming
>> > asshole".
>>
>> No, you're just a flaming asshole and everyone here knows it except you.
>>
>> Why do all car makers put a sound in the blinker? This question seems to
>> have rendered you mute.
>
> It's not a feature, it's a side effect. It can even be eliminated
> nowadays.
>
> People who have come to depend on a SIDE EFFECT to allow them not to
> know the state of the controls of their 4000 pound 65mph missile, are
> dangerous to every other vehicle on the road.
The "unvarnished truth?"
Hardly. Just more bullshit from the flaming asshole.
Al
IMHO, you posed a very valid question. If the flasher noise serves no good
purpose, the manufacturers could eliminate the clicking sound, but they
don't. I would think they believe (as do I) there's good reason for it.
I hope you don't let Mr. Nasty upset you. The best you can do with that
type is to ignore him or her.
Al
David Z
> DavidZ,
> IMHO, you posed a very valid question. If the flasher noise serves no
> good purpose, the manufacturers could eliminate the clicking sound, but
> they don't. I would think they believe (as do I) there's good reason for
> it.
Exactly. My question illustrated the fundemental flaw in Nasty's argument.
That's why he repeatedly avoided answering it.
He's been doing his nasty routine around here for years. Always claims
anything he says is the "Unvarnished truth" and anything he disagrees with
is lies and wrong.
"Unvarnished truth," eh? What a hoot! More like unvarnished bullshit.
LOL!
David Z
> In article <8lv39l...@mid.individual.net>,
> "David Z" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> > IMHO, you posed a very valid question. If the flasher noise serves no
>> > good purpose, the manufacturers could eliminate the clicking sound, but
>> > they don't. I would think they believe (as do I) there's good reason
>> > for
>> > it.
>>
>> Exactly. My question illustrated the fundemental flaw in Nasty's
>> argument.
>> That's why he repeatedly avoided answering it.
>
More bullshit from the flaming asshole.
> I did answer it.
Yeah, 4 days and 4 of your typically nasty messages later. And only after I
goaded you into it.
And your response was dumber than dumb.
Ray O
I suspect that thee reason automakers do not revert to the old style metal
casing on the flasher is either cost or reliability, with my vote going
towards cost.
In the future I bet we'll see an electronic flasher with an adjustable
volume but in the meantime, try putting a plastic container like a yogurt
container to act as a drum and amplify the sound a little.
Good luck!
David Z
> In article <8m03ni...@mid.individual.net>,
> "David Z" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> > Not at all.
>>
>> More bullshit from the flaming asshole.
>>
>> > I did answer it.
>>
>> Yeah, 4 days and 4 of your typically nasty messages later. And only
>> after I
>> goaded you into it.
>
>
> The only "flaming asshole" here is you.
Even more bullshit from the flaming asshole. I'm always right; you're
always wrong. Yada, yada, yada.
Some things never change.
David Z
> In article <8m1h7b...@mid.individual.net>,
> "David Z" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> > The only "flaming asshole" here is you.
>>
>> Even more bullshit from the flaming asshole. I'm always right; you're
>> always wrong. Yada, yada, yada.
>
Keep going. You're just proving my point.
papa jim
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