2006 Sedona EX fuel pump issues
06 KIA Sedona EX
miles on the vehicle. We love the car, nice ride with great options.
Around 1800 miles it started making an obnoxious whirring noise from
under the second row passenger seat intermittently.
We took the car to the dealer in which they determined it was from the
fuel pump. The pump was on a worldwide back order and was expected to
be a 2 to 3 week lead time. After some pressure on the dealer they
found one at a Hyundai dealer and replaced the pump. We go to pick the
van up and the check engine light is on, don't even get it out of the
parking space. Leave it at the dealer, they reset it and test drive the
van for 20 miles, they see no problems. We pick it up and the next
morning the check engine light is on.
Its back to the dealer the next day who tells us they need to get the
area rep involved as they have no idea on how to repair it, this was on
June 30th with the balance of the issues starting on June 26th. We are
told they will need to keep the vehicle for an extended period of time
and they gave us a rental car. Here it is July 21st and there's no
expected repair date.
We have contacted the KIA consumer hotline 3 times; they call the
dealer and let us know what they said on each instance. It's
basically a waste of time. On our last call we finally got someone that
cared and has contacted our KIA rep directly. There are apparently 4
pumps in the USA and none are in our reps area, so at this point they
don't have to release a pump to my rep for repairs unless he jumps
through hoops.
I was originally told that 75 vehicles had defective pumps; however it
seems that this problem is starting to pop up more frequently according
to our dealer. There is a bypass spring in the pump that appears to
cause this problem according to our dealer.
Has anyone else had an obnoxious whirring noise in their 2006 KIA
Sedona coming from under the second row driver's side passenger seat
where the fuel pump is mounted? Or did we just happen to get a lemon?
You should not hear the fuel pump running.
As the vehicle has been out of service long enough to meet our state
Lemon Laws we will be starting the procedures for a refund on the
vehicle as there is no firm date as to when they can make a repair.
Sadly enough I think this will be the only way to pressure them into
repairing our van.
TIA
hal...@gmail.com
> area rep involved as they have no idea on how to repair it, this was on
> June 30th with the balance of the issues starting on June 26th. We are
> told they will need to keep the vehicle for an extended period of time
> and they gave us a rental car. Here it is July 21st and there's no
> expected repair date.
>
find it hard to believe that the dealer is unable to figure out how to
fix your car when the only thing they should have touched is the fuel
tank and the fuel pump assembly. That pretty much narrows down the
range of things that are the most likely to cause a check engine light
upon reassembly.
Chris
Shines
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BIG problem with almost all Kia service Dept.s they don't have the training
or know how to address any problems. Having to keep calling Kia Reps is not
what I call a good sign. I have a 03 Sorento with the gas V6 and so far it's
been really good. but I have not driven it a great deal . But if I start
having problems like some others have had its. bye!bye! Kia Sorento and all
Kias.
DK
hal...@gmail.com
> BIG problem with almost all Kia service Dept.s they don't have the training
> or know how to address any problems. Having to keep calling Kia Reps is not
> what I call a good sign. I have a 03 Sorento with the gas V6 and so far it's
> been really good. but I have not driven it a great deal . But if I start
> having problems like some others have had its. bye!bye! Kia Sorento and all
> Kias.
> DK
I would certainly agree with the issues that Kia has with warranty
service. However, in Kia's defense, they do seem to build a pretty
tough vehicle. I have a 1997 Sephia that I have been pretty rough with
and at 97000 miles it's still running strong. I do all the maintenance
myself, I don't let any mechanics work on it. I think that's the key,
which obviously makes owning a Kia a problem for folks who are not
mechanically inclined.
Chris
06 KIA Sedona EX
evap leakage test sys problem cleared code. Test drove (start miles
2191) unable to get code to come back (end miles 2214) no further codes
detected."
I picked the van up and drove it home with no check engine light aprx 4
miles. Next morning the light was on. At this point the fuel pump was
quiet. They told me they would need to keep it for an extended period
of time to diagnose the problem. I recieved a rental car at that point.
The dealer told me they also took a known good fuel pump from another
vehicle and its doing the same thing with the noise. I just dont see
how replacing the fuel pump will clear the check engine light or the
noise. The car ran fine before they replaced the pump with no check
engine lights on.
He felt that the fuel pump needed to be handled gingerly as to not
damage it before installing it. My reply was " If the pumps that sad
that you can't get it from one dealer to another without it getting
handled roughly, how is it going to handle the beating it will take
while driving the vehicle?" He agreed that was a pretty lame excuse.
Rev. Tom Wenndt
But I have two Kia dealers in my nearby area. One I would stack against any
dealership of any make anywhere. The other is a dud.
But the level of expertise at the one I do business at is commendable. They
really know their stuff.
Sorry about your bad experience, but there are some good ones out there,
though maybe not in your area.
Tom Wenndt
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06 KIA Sedona EX
am not easily snowed. It's just been excuse after excuse, most of them
different reasons. At one point they told me they had no idea on what
to due to fix it. Thats when they told me they would need it for an
extended period of time.
I am glad to hear you've had a good experience with your vehicle. I am
hoping we will too.
hal...@gmail.com
> evap leakage test sys problem cleared code. Test drove (start miles
> 2191) unable to get code to come back (end miles 2214) no further codes
> detected."
>
First off, just as an FYI - OBD-II diagnostic codes start with a letter
and are followed by four digits. Your code is actually P0447, not
PO447. P0447 is a generic OBD-II diagnostic code. Anything that starts
with P0xxx is considered a 'generic' code that is not manufacturer
specific. If it begins with P1xxx, then the meaning of the code is
manufacturer specific, so if you have a P1555 it could mean one thing
on a BMW and something completely different on a Kia.
In your case, the bottom line is an evap system code means just
that...either a vent/purge valve has failed or hasn't been plugged back
in. Other possibilities are a misrouted vapor line, a leak where the
line connects to the fuel tank or charcoal canister, or even a bad gas
cap(!) Basically, changing the fuel pump usually involves dropping the
tank, and thus several lines need to be disconnected and subsequently
reconnected. It sounds to me like they didn't hook something up
correctly.
Evap system faults should not be that hard to find. Can you take the
vehicle to another dealer?
Chris
CMM
<absr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>We bought a 2006 KIA Sedona EX with every option in April. It has 2000
>miles on the vehicle. We love the car, nice ride with great options.
>Around 1800 miles it started making an obnoxious whirring noise from
>under the second row passenger seat intermittently.
And so begin the quality issues with the new Sedona. Can't say I'm
shocked...
-- Christian
Capt. RB
shocked... >>>
Nonsense. There are bound to be issues. My van also had a noisy fuel
pump. Kia replaced the WHOLE VAN.
My Subaru ALSO had a noisy fuel pump. Took weeks to fix.
My 2006 Sedona has been perfect after 5000 miles and we keep getting
calls from Major Kia to make sure we're happy. Free oil changes too!
My friend's 2005 Toyota Sienna has tranny and window problems. But even
without those problems he prefers my Sedona because it's got a real
engine in it. The poor Sienna can't get out of it's own way.
Capt RB
NY
CMM
>Nonsense. There are bound to be issues. My van also had a noisy fuel
>pump. Kia replaced the WHOLE VAN.
I'll admit that is good but apparently not the deal the OP is getting
(at least not at this point). It is unfortunate that Kia had no
interest in such quality and satisfaction before the current year's
model. It does still remain to be seen if Kia will continue its
current trend and if the vehicles will prove to be good in the long
run.
-- Christian
hal...@gmail.com
> (at least not at this point). It is unfortunate that Kia had no
> interest in such quality and satisfaction before the current year's
> model. It does still remain to be seen if Kia will continue its
> current trend and if the vehicles will prove to be good in the long
> run.
>
Like I stated previously, I was an early adopter to Kia. I have a 1997
Sephia that I drive the hell out of, and with almost 98,000 miles
behind me it still runs great. While some claim that the Kia vehicles
are of low quality, my counter to that argument is that most of the
people who bought the cars could barely afford them. It doesn't matter
what car you buy, without maintenance it will fall apart. Kia's are no
worse than anything else out there if you take care of them.
Chris
Capt. RB
It does still remain to be seen if Kia will continue its
current trend and if the vehicles will prove to be good in the long
run. >>>
With Kia working under you know who, it's a done deal at this point.
Kia quality is now matching Hyundia and even my friend who works at New
Rochelle Toyota admits that.
Capt RB
NY
CMM
wrote:
>Like I stated previously, I was an early adopter to Kia. I have a 1997
>Sephia that I drive the hell out of, and with almost 98,000 miles
>behind me it still runs great. While some claim that the Kia vehicles
>are of low quality, my counter to that argument is that most of the
>people who bought the cars could barely afford them. It doesn't matter
>what car you buy, without maintenance it will fall apart. Kia's are no
>worse than anything else out there if you take care of them.
I'm glad your Sephia is performing as desired. However, I know that my
Sedona is worse than other vehicles I've owned even though it has
received good maintenance. I can't help but compare it to my '96
Plymouth Voyage. While several people have told me that Voyagers of
that time are junk, it has nearly 200K miles and is far superior to my
Sedona, which is 6 years newer and about 95K miles less driven. I've
posted a list elsewhere so won't repeat it in full but some of the
problems my Sedona has that my Voyager does not are: non-working A/C,
burning oil, malfunctioning sliding doors, broken interior door
handles, poorly-functioning windshield wipers, easy denting, and much
more.
I know I'm not the only person to have lots of problems with a Sedona
(or with a Kia in general).
From now on, I'll limit my sniping at Kia to threads where it's
relevent (e.g. when someone asks about quality or if a Sedona would be
a good vehicle to buy, etc.).
-- Christian
Capt. RB
However, I know that my
Sedona is worse than other vehicles I've owned even though it has
The Sedona you own simply has nothing to do with the new one. No way
would I buy a Voyager/Caravan OR the older version of the Sedona. My
family had to Caravans and they were both horrible. The 2002-2005
Sedona rep is mediocre at best.
You seem to be hoping that the new Kia/Hynduai products are poor, but
the facts are already leaning towards a massive improvement. I'm now of
the opinion that the Sedona is not only a good value, but probably the
best minivan period. A loaded EX gets close enough to 30K, so I can't
call it cheap. Still, it's a match for the Honda and Toyota cars and a
new Caravan feels like a dinosaur from the switch gear to the
powertrain.
Does this mean the "new" Sedona is problem free? Of course not. But
it's been the most problem free new car we've owned...requiring (so
far) one dealer visit and loss of 3-4 hours max. I only wish my buddies
Sienna had that record and so does he. My Subaru (a 36K SUV) had loss
of TC and antilock 3 times and cost me 3 days of work. Two new caravans
suffered steering problems, major electrical issues and worse.
RB
35s5
NY
CMM
>You seem to be hoping that the new Kia/Hynduai products are poor, but
>the facts are already leaning towards a massive improvement.
No, I hope they're great. I'm just saying that the old ones were
terrible but Kia marketed them as quality instead of saying, "buy our
poor (or mediocre) minivan." Which is understandable but hurts Kia's
credibility.My point is, it's a bit too soon to jump in until the new
generation of Sedona has proved itself. Others may not feel this way,
which is fine.
>Two new caravans
>suffered steering problems, major electrical issues and worse.
I mentioned my Voyager because Chris (hal...@gmail.com) seemed to
indicate that if a vehicle is troublesome, it's because of poor
maintenance, which is hardly the case here.
-- Christian
Capt. RB
My point is, it's a bit too soon to jump in until the new
generation of Sedona has proved itself. Others may not feel this way,
which is fine. >>>
It MIGHT be too soon. Time will tell as we rack up more miles. But the
Sedona need only last 3-5 years for us as we never drive cars into the
ground. On the other hand, we put a LOT of miles on cars, so if the
Sedona has issues, we'll find them. So far so perfect for the new
Sedona. From seats to engine power, it clobbers the Sienna. I'm hoping
Subaru comes out with a AWD luxury van because I'm a fan and would
probably buy one.
RB
2006 Sedona EX
CMM
>
>It MIGHT be too soon. Time will tell as we rack up more miles. But the
>Sedona need only last 3-5 years for us as we never drive cars into the
>ground. On the other hand, we put a LOT of miles on cars, so if the
>Sedona has issues, we'll find them. So far so perfect for the new
>Sedona. From seats to engine power, it clobbers the Sienna. I'm hoping
>Subaru comes out with a AWD luxury van because I'm a fan and would
>probably buy one.
I agree, time will tell.You and other owners of the new generation of
Sedona will have to keep us posted. If any significant issues crop up
with one year's model, they'll hopefully be addressed for the
subsequent years.
Happy driving!
-- Christian
art.o...@gmail.com
tank, and thus several lines need to be disconnected and subsequently
reconnected. It sounds to me like they didn't hook something up
correctly. "
Actually the pump and filter assembly are located under the left seat
in the 2nd row. (hence the location of the whining sound) If you tilt
that seat forward there is a small square patch of carpet that
un-velcro'ed reveals the assembly. There is a few bolts and a couple of
connectors. Nothing complex looking. I stumbled on it when exploring
our new Entourage.
I hope they work out a solution for you soon. I'm wondering if they
are too focused on the pump since that is what they worked on while a
new somewhat unrelated problem has popped up to throw the code.
Entourage / Sedona Forum :
http://p067.ezboard.com/bhyundaientourageforum
rka...@gmail.com
I have several links to others who have posted similar problems with the 06 sedona. Shame on KIA. I'm done with the brand