My new Kona can't be shifted to Park while engine sill running

[Cameo]

I just picked up my new 2019 1.6 L turbo powered Kona at the dealer
today and it drove really nice. So nice, that it did not want to be
shifted to Park when I got home and stopped. I had my foot on the brake
pedal and pulled the hand brake, then move the shifter from D to P
before wanting to turn off the engine. But it would not move out of R
position to P till I first turned off the engine. This is not how it's
supposed to be. The shifter should be placed to P before turning off the
engine. The car has a dual-clutch AT. Has anybody experienced something
like this? Am I doing something wrong?

[jtees4]

Could it be because of the hand brake being on? I don't claim to have
a clue, but maybe that's the issue.


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[Ed Pawlowski]

That does not sound right. I'd be back at the dealer tomorrow and ask
them. I assume you pushed any button on the shifter if needed.

[Flop]

P ->>> R -> N -> D

D -> N ->> R ->> P

-> ... Footbrake and Trigger not needed

->> ... Trigger needed

->>> ... Footbrake and Trigger both needed

HTH


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[Cameo]

The button is the problem, I think, but I don't see any on the shift
lever. I come from a Honda background and on those cars the shift button
is right at your thumb. The strange thing is that the 2019 Kona Owner's
Manual on page 5-27 in the illustration even spells out that "Depress
the brake pedal and press the shift button while moving the shift
lever." But then on the illustration they don't show where the shift
button is.

[Paul in Houston TX]

All the Google images of a Kona shift knob show buttons on the
side, back, top, or front, etc.
I would take the knob off and see if pressing the nylon rod
allows shifting to park.

[Cameo]

I found it at last, at the front-facing side of the shift stick. But
it's not really a button, but more like a toggle and you operate it with
your index finger, rather than with your thumb. Without anybody pointing
it out, it's not in an obvious location. I wonder why the Owner's Manual
does not mention it.

But even so, that shift "button" doesn't make moving the shift stick
from R to P easy while the engine is still running. I have to press on
the brake pedal REAL HARD while also putting a lot of pressure on the
stick to move it from R to P. I don't feel it should be that much harder
to shift to P than to other positions. It wasn't on other AT cars I've
driven.

[Paul in Houston TX]

What you describe about a lot of pressure on both should not be.
The brake pedal has an electrical switch which allows shifting to P.
Movement of both the lever and pedal should be easy.
A dealer needs to look at it.

[Cameo]

I agree and I'll call him about that.

[Bob]

On Sat, 07 Dec 2019 17:21:34 +0000, Flop wrote:

>
> P ->>> R -> N -> D
>
> D -> N ->> R ->> P
>
> -> ... Footbrake and Trigger not needed
>
> ->> ... Trigger needed
>
> ->>> ... Footbrake and Trigger both needed
>
> HTH

Shifting to or from Park or Reverse without ensuring the car is stopped by
having your foot on the brake is just a really bad idea, even if the
Manufacturer allows it.

[Cameo]

Who is saying otherwise?

[Flop]

Thank you.

A timely reminder to those who follow the instruction book. Now I have
one more fact to learn. :-)

[Bob]

According to the info above, you can shift from R to P or from
N to R by only pressing the trigger button, no brake required.
This is true on many (most?) cars (including my own), but if the
car is moving, you can damage the parking pawl (R to P) or
damage the clutch packs (N to R, if the car is rolling forward).

[Cameo]

I talked to the dealer and I was told to give it a few days and the
shifting into Park should become smoother. And he was right. It is
getting smoother with each day I drive. So I am good with it now.

[Paul in Houston TX]

Interesting. Guess it needed to wear the rough edges off.