Glue for door vapor barrier

Randolph

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Mar 27, 2005, 12:07:07 AM3/27/05

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I need to replace the vapor barrier in the door of a friend's car. In my
Civic the vapor barrier is held in place by a chewing-gum like adhesive
that has held up well for over 10 years. Does anyone know where I can
find this type of adhesive?

Thanks

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Brian Smith

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Mar 27, 2005, 6:57:16 AM3/27/05

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"Randolph" <tr...@junkmail.com> wrote in message
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>I need to replace the vapor barrier in the door of a friend's car. In my
> Civic the vapor barrier is held in place by a chewing-gum like adhesive
> that has held up well for over 10 years. Does anyone know where I can
> find this type of adhesive?

I don't know where you could find that off hand. I would think that a parts
store would have it. Have you thought about using double faced tape?

Brian

John Ings

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Mar 27, 2005, 9:42:40 AM3/27/05

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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 05:07:07 GMT, Randolph <tr...@junkmail.com> wrote:

>I need to replace the vapor barrier in the door of a friend's car. In my
>Civic the vapor barrier is held in place by a chewing-gum like adhesive
>that has held up well for over 10 years. Does anyone know where I can
>find this type of adhesive?

By vapour barrier I assume you mean the rubber weather strip.
In my experience only one thing really works:
<http://products3.3m.com/catalog/us/en001/auto_marine_aero/automotive_aftermarket/node_GSN04SFBB0gs/root_GST1T4S9TCgv/vroot_GSLPLPKL4Xge/bgel_GSZSZ5F858bl/gvel_Q5D2V4SCM0gl/theme_us_aad_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html>

Sorry about that rediculously long URL.
It points to 3M Super Weatherstrip Adhesive 08001
You should be able to find it at an automotive supply store like UAP
It's a yellow color and incredibly sticky. We used to refer to it as
"gorilla snot"

Michael Pardee

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Mar 27, 2005, 10:05:58 AM3/27/05

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"John Ings" <noda...@spam.org> wrote in message
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I think the barrier he's talking about is the plastic sheet between the
metal door and the interior panel. The stuff that holds it reminds me of
plumber's putty but is much stickier. I'd still expect it to be a 3M product
and it might be the same thing you describe. It definitely isn't rubber
cement, which would stink and harden.

Mike
Mike

Kenneth J. Harris

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Mar 27, 2005, 10:47:54 AM3/27/05

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I don't know that you necessarily need to use the OEM stuff for this
sort of job. When replacing these barriers on various cars in the past
I have used GE SiliconeII clear cauking and a butyl cauking made for
sealing rain gutters. These were materials that I had tubes of availble
for cauking around my house and sppear to have adhered strongly and
sealed well. They certainly are made to withstand all types of weather
and moisture exposure.

Ken

motsco_ _

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Mar 27, 2005, 10:53:44 AM3/27/05

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Randolph wrote:
> I need to replace the vapor barrier in the door of a friend's car. In my
> Civic the vapor barrier is held in place by a chewing-gum like adhesive
> that has held up well for over 10 years. Does anyone know where I can
> find this type of adhesive?
>
> Thanks

The closest thing to that gooey stuff is black 'acoustic sealant' which
is terribly messy. They use it to seal vapor barrier in houses, but it's
awful stuff. :-( Comes off your hands with WD-40. If you knew you were
NEVER going to open the door panel again, it might be OK. I just use a
bit of contact cement on top of the old sealant that's in there, to
reseal it. Since you're changing the whole gasket, you'll want something
closer to the real stuff. Hopefully a person who works at a good stereo
intallation place can tell you what to use.

'Curly'

John Ings

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Mar 27, 2005, 11:49:40 AM3/27/05

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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 08:05:58 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
<michae...@cybertrails.com> wrote:

>I think the barrier he's talking about is the plastic sheet between the
>metal door and the interior panel.

Ah! That's just called a 'plastic cover' in the shop manual, but I can
see it's resemblence to vapour barrier. I think the 3M stuff would
hold it though. The shop manual just says 'apply adhesive' without
specifying what kind.

Kevin McMurtrie

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Mar 27, 2005, 1:10:34 PM3/27/05

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In article <42463F93...@junkmail.com>,
Randolph <tr...@junkmail.com> wrote:

> I need to replace the vapor barrier in the door of a friend's car. In my
> Civic the vapor barrier is held in place by a chewing-gum like adhesive
> that has held up well for over 10 years. Does anyone know where I can
> find this type of adhesive?
>
> Thanks

It's the same goo that seals the windows and tail lights, if that helps
you in your search.

Brian Smith

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Mar 27, 2005, 1:27:22 PM3/27/05

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"Kevin McMurtrie" <mcmu...@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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>
> It's the same goo that seals the windows and tail lights, if that helps
> you in your search.

I haven't seen any goo around tailights in years. The seals are rubber.

Brian

Randolph

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Mar 27, 2005, 7:37:36 PM3/27/05

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Michael Pardee wrote:

> >>I need to replace the vapor barrier in the door of a friend's car. In my
> >>Civic the vapor barrier is held in place by a chewing-gum like adhesive
> >>that has held up well for over 10 years. Does anyone know where I can
> >>find this type of adhesive?
> >
> > By vapour barrier I assume you mean the rubber weather strip.
> > In my experience only one thing really works:

> I think the barrier he's talking about is the plastic sheet between the

> metal door and the interior panel. The stuff that holds it reminds me of
> plumber's putty but is much stickier. I'd still expect it to be a 3M product
> and it might be the same thing you describe. It definitely isn't rubber
> cement, which would stink and harden.

Yes, the plastic sheet is what I am talking about. On the car in
question the sheet was held in place with an adhesive similar to what
you find on packing tape. After 17 years, it is now a slimy goo that
does not hold the sheet in place. I was hoping to find the the stuff
Honda uses, it seems to hold up very well over the years.

WaterWatcher

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Mar 27, 2005, 9:43:31 PM3/27/05

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"Randolph" <tr...@junkmail.com> wrote in message
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>I need to replace the vapor barrier in the door of a friend's car. In my
> Civic the vapor barrier is held in place by a chewing-gum like adhesive
> that has held up well for over 10 years. Does anyone know where I can
> find this type of adhesive?
>
> Thanks
>

I've used plastic packaging tape for that with good results.

WW

David Odom

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Oct 31, 2012, 11:08:01 AM10/31/12

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responding to
http://www.motorsforum.com/honda/glue-for-door-vapor-barrier-534-.htm , David
Odom wrote:
If you all are talking about the "tar-like" putty that adheres most
moisture/vapor barriers in most cars, you're looking
for 3M Strip-Calk, Part No. 051135-08578. This is the black stuff. There is
a "whit-ish" version also.

This stuff will not harden which is what you want so you can remove and
"re-stick" your moisture barrier several
times as you have to, over the years, do maintenance on door windows, electric
motors, regulators, etc.

Hope this help,

David Odom
Casa Grande, AZ