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dt

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I've tried ammonia and alcohol to clean the outside of my windshield but
there's still some sort of a residue on the glass that WON'T come off!
Worst of all, it's on the drivers side. What would be the best way to clean
the glass to strip everything off of it. I bought the car used and have no
idea what the window was treated with previously. When the wipers go over
it, it leaves a blurry surface and you can even see it if you look at it
from the outside. Should I try RainX?

Please provide some ideas.

Thanks

Todd Hakala

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in article KbMN5.33702$ph.2...@nntp0.chicago.il.ameritech.net, dt at
d...@dt.com wrote on 11/7/00 12:11 AM:

Try using a product called Bon-Ami. It comes in a cardboard can like a
parmesan cheese container, and you can usually find it at a good-sized
grocery store next to the Windex or Comet products.

Basically, it's marketed as glass polish. It is an extremely mild abrasive,
so don't be scared if you find it next to Comet on the store shelf. The
stock-boys likely don't know the difference between Comet and Bon-Ami.

Follow the instructions, and rinse with clear water after use. Then apply
Rain-X and buff, buff, buff until your arms hurt. You will end up with a
crystal-clear windshield.

I used Bon-Ami when I was in the screen-printing biz for prepping store
windows to be printed. I swear by it for cleaning oil and other nasty things
off of glass.

Todd

DevilsAltima

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Nov 7, 2000, 1:11:23 AM11/7/00
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Hmmm I have heard of a white non scratch powder that car detailers use
called Bon Ami. Its a white powder that looks like Comet, but its not
caustic or anything. It will take off those hard water spots on your
windshield so I imagine it would take of you residue.


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Ben Lanson

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There was a thread recently on rec.autos.driving about the perils of RainX. Try
Deja; I found it quite enlightening. You might try dry newspaper and elbow
grease; it's worked for me in the past. Good luck!

Ben

Mike

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Have you tried new wipers? My windshield was a big streaky mess,
then i picked up some teflon blades from canadian tire. But
getting new blades and some good washer fluid helped.
But, it might be wax on your glass, thats happened to me.
I went to a car wash, and then later on my glass was all streaky.
I just took a squeegee to it, and used some elbow grease.

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Hal Hanig

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"DevilsAltima" <rsp...@chesapeake.net> wrote in
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> Hmmm I have heard of a white non scratch powder
that car detailers use
> called Bon Ami. Its a white powder that looks
like Comet, but its not
> caustic or anything. It will take off those hard
water spots on your
> windshield so I imagine it would take of you
residue.

Bon Ami, you say? What a discovery! I am 77
years old and my mother used that stuff in our
house as far back as I can remember. I guess what
goes around comes around. (^_^)

Hal

D J Mann

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In article <t0f6u3p...@corp.supernews.com>, "DevilsAltima" <rsp...@chesapeake.net> wrote:
>Hmmm I have heard of a white non scratch powder that car detailers use
>called Bon Ami. Its a white powder that looks like Comet, but its not
>caustic or anything. It will take off those hard water spots on your
>windshield so I imagine it would take of you residue.

Not only is is non-caustic, but it is made with abrasives that are softer than
what you find in stuff like Comet, Ajax, or Bab-O. It is very good on glass,
and if you rub gently to moderately you will do no harm at all. I used it to
"revive" a windshield on a 93 Plymouth that was so covered with bug guck, car
wash "spray wax" and other nasties. It's amazing stuff, and it is cheap.

Gold foil lable with red band. You know you have the right stuff if it says
"bon ami", and "hasn't scratched yet".


Kevin

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I used RainX all the time until I heard it actually etches your windshield
to work.

catnap

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"D J Mann" <jacobusN...@value.net> wrote in message
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> In article <t0f6u3p...@corp.supernews.com>, "DevilsAltima"
<rsp...@chesapeake.net> wrote:
> >Hmmm I have heard of a white non scratch powder that car detailers use
> >called Bon Ami. Its a white powder that looks like Comet, but its not
> >caustic or anything. It will take off those hard water spots on your
> >windshield so I imagine it would take of you residue.
>
> Not only is is non-caustic, but it is made with abrasives that are softer
than
> what you find in stuff like Comet, Ajax, or Bab-O. It is very good on
glass,
> and if you rub gently to moderately you will do no harm at all. I used it
to
> "revive" a windshield on a 93 Plymouth that was so covered with bug guck,
car
> wash "spray wax" and other nasties. It's amazing stuff, and it is cheap.
>
> Gold foil lable with red band. You know you have the right stuff if it
says
> "bon ami", and "hasn't scratched yet".
>

The only thing I'd warn about is that newer cans of Bon-Ami have "glass"
removed from the "safe to use on" list on the can (still have the old stuff
around, so I don't know if they changed it again recently). Did they change
the ingredients to something more abrasive?

Mark Schooley

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I've heard of people using lemons to clean the windshield. Just cut it in
half and use some elbow grease.
I don't know what, if any, effect the lemon juice will have on the cars
finish.
-Mark
Mike <cornbr...@hothothotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Have you tried new wipers? My windshield was a big streaky mess,
> then i picked up some teflon blades from canadian tire. But
> getting new blades and some good washer fluid helped.
> But, it might be wax on your glass, thats happened to me.
> I went to a car wash, and then later on my glass was all streaky.
> I just took a squeegee to it, and used some elbow grease.
>
> "DevilsAltima" <rsp...@chesapeake.net> wrote in message
> news:t0f6u3p...@corp.supernews.com...

AJR

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> When the wipers go over
> it, it leaves a blurry surface and you can even see it if you look at it
> from the outside. Should I try RainX?

If you haven't already, try getting new wiper blades... might be something
simple as that!

-AJR

db...@sprynet.com

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dt wrote:
>
> I've tried ammonia and alcohol to clean the outside of my windshield but
> there's still some sort of a residue on the glass that WON'T come off!
> Worst of all, it's on the drivers side. What would be the best way to clean
> the glass to strip everything off of it. I bought the car used and have no
> idea what the window was treated with previously. When the wipers go over

> it, it leaves a blurry surface and you can even see it if you look at it
> from the outside. Should I try RainX?
>
> Please provide some ideas.
>
> Thanks
if you used alcohol or vinegar you used about everyting that will clean
the glass, it might be the wipers that are bad and just cleaning them
will not help, try putting two quality wipers on the car and clean the
glass again, you should have no more problems..........dont get the
cheap ones, they will not last and you will have the problems again.
Rain-X or someother product might be on the glass, alcohol should take
it off.

Hal Hanig

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"Mark Schooley" <scho...@mwr.is> wrote
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> I've heard of people using lemons to
clean the windshield. Just cut it in
> half and use some elbow grease.
> I don't know what, if any, effect the
lemon juice will have on the cars
> finish.
> -Mark

If I remember any of my chemistry, lemon
contains citric acid, which is what
gives it its tart taste. I'm not sure
what effect it might have on glass, but
I sure wouldn't be using it on any kind
of paint finish without a prompt and
thorough rinsing.

Hal

Greg

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Nov 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/7/00
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RainX will leave a film, it may be what is on your windshield already. Good
luck getting it off!
I have used RainX in to past on a vehicle with very poor wipers, I could not
get any brand or style of wipers to do a even a fair job on the windshield.
I tried RainX, and it worked great! It worked best not to even use the
wipers. The water would turn into small beads and fly right up the
windshield. The stuff did leave a nasty film, but it was a trade off. No
wipers, or a film and be able to drive in the rain!
Greg


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Basil M.

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Well, lemon juice won't bother the glass, but hydroflouric acid will
definitely etch the glass. Chemistry class!

AdMin NN5

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in article KbMN5.33702$ph.2...@nntp0.chicago.il.ameritech.net, dt at
d...@dt.com wrote on 11/7/00 12:11 AM:

>

> I've tried ammonia and alcohol to clean the outside of my windshield but
> there's still some sort of a residue on the glass that WON'T come off!
> Worst of all, it's on the drivers side. What would be the best way to clean
> the glass to strip everything off of it. I bought the car used and have no
> idea what the window was treated with previously. When the wipers go over
> it, it leaves a blurry surface and you can even see it if you look at it
> from the outside. Should I try RainX?
>
> Please provide some ideas.
>
> Thanks
>
>

the windshield could have been repaired


mikeh...@mailcity.com

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If you are trying to remove a polymer like Rain-X, use mineral
sprites.

_Woody_

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Nov 7, 2000, 9:42:10 PM11/7/00
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BEWARE! Maybe...

A similar thread, last year or so, indicated Bon Ami had
been reformulated and could cause damage to the windshield.
Caveat Emptor...

Woody
----------------------------

> I used Bon-Ami when I was in the screen-printing biz for prepping store
> windows to be printed. I swear by it for cleaning oil and other nasty things
> off of glass.
>
> Todd

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HedgeSlammer

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Has anyone tried the STP windshield "vision blade" product? That is what
Canadian Tire sells where I live.

In article <B62E1730.A5F3%rlb...@fwi.com>, rlb...@fwi.com says...

D J Mann

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In article <8u9b5...@enews2.newsguy.com>, "catnap" <catsm...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>The only thing I'd warn about is that newer cans of Bon-Ami have "glass"
>removed from the "safe to use on" list on the can (still have the old stuff
>around, so I don't know if they changed it again recently). Did they change
>the ingredients to something more abrasive?

Indeed? Maybe if they have an 800 number on the can, it'd be good to call
them and find out.

Carl

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I've had awesome results with greased lightning applied with a 3M pad (those
green scrubby thingies that you can use in the kitchen instead of steel wool).

sbest

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On Wed, 08 Nov 2000 01:17:32 -0500, Carl <cwlod...@charter.net> wrote:

>I've had awesome results with greased lightning applied with a 3M pad (those
>green scrubby thingies that you can use in the kitchen instead of steel wool).

Those 3m Scotchbrite pads will tear bluing off a rifle, plated coatings
off of hardened steel cutter blades and can scratch glass. Be careful!

The theory behind using vinegar or lemon juice is that the acid will
react and remove to hard water lime deposits.


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I use ArmorAlls Auto Glass Cleaner whenever I get streaks, and it works very
well for me...


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Mike Grey

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Try using Window cleaning paste made by RainX - it comes in a bottle (paste
form) and has polishing compounds (similar to pumice). It is supposed to take
everything off of glass - I have had very good luck with it.

Mike

Basil M.

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Mike,

That's exactly what I used when someone got spray paint on my
windows....works like a charm. Makes perfect sense!

Basil M.

ray

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I used to visit a lot of new car dealers and have seen professional
detailers use:

1) Newspaper with window cleaner - works well with the haze on the interior
from smoking, vinyl fog, etc.
2) Brake cleaner - spray on newspaper or paper towel away from the car so it
doesn't get on the paint. Brake cleaner will remove any wax or road tar
film on the glass and won't leave a film on the glass after it evaporates.
Carb cleaner will leave a film so avoid using carb cleaner.
3) When all else fails, use size 00 or finer steel wool with window cleaner,
soap and water, or brake cleaner. Don't use any elbow grease at all when
using steel wool. Just use you fingers to go over the glass lightly.

Good luck.


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Allen Kirby

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Well, I just typed in www.bonami.com and presto - there it is. It looks
like they have the original formula cleaning POWDER and cakes which it says
are good for glass cleaning and defogging. The CLEANSER is the newer
product and doesn't say anything about glass, although it is safe for
fiberglass so I don't think it would hurt glass. I think the cleanser
contains bleach and detergent that the cleaning powder doesn't, and that
shouldn't hurt the glass at all.

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AZGuy wrote:
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> Try vinegar.

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Try pouring coca-cola on the glass while wet then use the wipers.
This is an old trucker trick.


On Wed, 08 Nov 2000 08:51:44 -0600, Mike Grey <mg...@gpsocket.com>
wrote:

>Try using Window cleaning paste made by RainX - it comes in a bottle (paste
>form) and has polishing compounds (similar to pumice). It is supposed to take
>everything off of glass - I have had very good luck with it.
>
>Mike
>
>
>>
>> "dt" <d...@dt.com> wrote in message
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Jeff Rivers

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On Tue, 7 Nov 2000 08:32:24 -0800, "Kevin" <Rakn...@charter.net>
wrote:

>I used RainX all the time until I heard it actually etches your windshield
>to work.
>
>

Bad data. It applies a very thin film of teflon.

The haze you see is because you didn't buff it enough. It takes a lot
of buffing to really set the Rain-X. When the haze disappears, you've
rubbed it enough.

--Jeff Rivers

Rob Berus

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Agreed. I used RainX on my old Topaz for 3 years, no problems - except those
old people staring at me while traveling the interstate at 70mp in a
thunderstorm with no wipers on.


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BLKRX7

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Agreed, Anything over maybe 40mph and the water simply runs off the
windshield. No Wipers needed.

Paul

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> Agreed. I used RainX on my old Topaz for 3 years, no problems - except
those
> old people staring at me while traveling the interstate at 70mp in a
> thunderstorm with no wipers on.
>
>
> "Jeff Rivers" <je...@spam-is-a-crime.rcia.com> wrote in message
> news:3a0a50c0...@news.rcia.com...

John

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Use Bon Ami, costs about 75 cents in just about any grocery store. Rub it on with '0000' steel wool.

John

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I've also use bug n' tar cleaner....

John

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actually, that was recommended for use by the a GM dealer in Hawaii. 0000 grade steel wool is very fine and does not scar or scratch the windshield, nor any glass.
"Bob" <uctr...@ultranet.com> wrote in message news:j8fm0tg2mind922v9...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 09 Nov 2000 19:40:32 GMT, "John" <yello...@bigfoot.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Use Bon Ami, costs about 75 cents in just about any grocery store.
> >Rub it on with '0000' steel wool.
>
> Steel Wool and Bon-Ami - on your windshield ? Guess you plan
> to replace it soon.
>
> Bob
>

sbest

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>In article <8ujsbf$6gr$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, rob...@my-deja.com wrote:
>>I was watching a consumer reports show <SNIP> The best thing they found
>>was to use tri-sodium phosphate to clean the winshield about 2x a year
>>to keep it like new. It is non-abrasive, doesn't harm paint or
>>plastic, but it strips away all wax and residue. I have used it and it
>>makes the water sheet just like it does on a new windshield, and has no
>>ill-effects. You can buy it at department stores, it comes in a box
>>(powder) usually labeled 'TSP', primarily used for cleaning decks and
>>such for paint prep.
>
>Depends on where you live. The enviro-weenies have had it banned in a lot of
>locales.

Having just done a PILE of painting here in Nova Scotia Canada, I can
assure you that TSP is readily and cheaply available here. I can also
testify to its cleaning and degreasing properties but I haven'y tried it
on glass yet. Seeing (pun?) as I have a few streaky windshields out in the
driveway, I ought to give it a try. Tomorrow...

Grant Summers

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Cloudy amonia is the best trick, will remove waxy and oily deposits with
little effort and won't scratch. Clears the sinuses too!

D J Mann

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In article <j8fm0tg2mind922v9...@4ax.com>, Bob <uctr...@ultranet.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 09 Nov 2000 19:40:32 GMT, "John" <yello...@bigfoot.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Use Bon Ami, costs about 75 cents in just about any grocery store.
>>Rub it on with '0000' steel wool.
>
>Steel Wool and Bon-Ami - on your windshield ? Guess you plan
>to replace it soon.

0000 steel wool, used GENTLY, will not cause a problem. 0000 is very very
fine indeed.

Brand X

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Try some fingernail polish remover
dt wrote in message ...

Startide

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In <j8fm0tg2mind922v9...@4ax.com>,
"Bob" uctr...@ultranet.com said...
> On 09 Nov 2000 19:40:32 GMT, "John" yello...@bigfoot.com

> wrote:
> > Use Bon Ami, costs about 75 cents in just about any
> > grocery store. Rub it on with '0000' steel wool.
>
> Steel Wool and Bon-Ami - on your windshield ? Guess you
> plan to replace it soon.
> Bob

Anything that resembles rubbing compound (ultrafine silica)
will wear away the top surface of the windshield. It will
remove the calcium deposits (water rings, raindrop spots)
and some of the fine scratches, but your windshield will
be just a tad thinner...

Since the "permanent" spotting is caused by calcium/lime
deposits, you can remove them with something that reacts
with calcium such as any acidic solution. Base (as in
acid vs base) solutions won't work anywhere as well as
an acidic solution in removing calcium.

Mild acidic solutions will not react with glass (acids
are stored in glass containers) with the exceptions of
exotic acids which NONE of us will use on the windshield
so it makes no sense to point out that alien blood or
hydroflouric acid will etch glass.

If you do use an acidic solution, don't get it near any
of the rubber or other surrounding trim around the
windshield. Acidic solutions will weaken the surround.

I don't know if that "lime away" stuff used in bathrooms
to remove calcium deposits on shower stall glass will
be safe to apply. When you rinse the windshield off,
the stuff will wash down the plastic windshield drain
wells. I suppose that if you use enough rinse water,
the flushing action will wash all the chemicals out
of the drain system.

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COKE Is IT....Coke works great!!


Steve Cook

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I've used steel wool to get tape off of my rear window and it worked fine
and didnt mark up or scratch the glass.

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> actually, that was recommended for use by the a GM dealer in Hawaii. 0000
grade steel wool is very fine and does not scar or scratch the windshield,
nor any glass.

> "Bob" <uctr...@ultranet.com> wrote in message
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> > On Thu, 09 Nov 2000 19:40:32 GMT, "John" <yello...@bigfoot.com>

rob...@my-deja.com

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I was watching a consumer reports show about the streaking that waxes,
road grime, and even rain-x can cause on windshields, which makes
driving in rain and at night more dangerous. The best thing they found

was to use tri-sodium phosphate to clean the winshield about 2x a year
to keep it like new. It is non-abrasive, doesn't harm paint or
plastic, but it strips away all wax and residue. I have used it and it
makes the water sheet just like it does on a new windshield, and has no
ill-effects. You can buy it at department stores, it comes in a box
(powder) usually labeled 'TSP', primarily used for cleaning decks and
such for paint prep.


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Before you buy.

Michael H. Pittsley

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> Try some fingernail polish remover

If I may...

Fingernail polish remover will leave a film of it's own.

In addition to acetone, fingernail polish remover contains a whole
smattering of other ingredients that will leave it's own residue on glass
(ethoxylated lanolin, glycerin, geletin, aloe vera, etc.). You'd be better
off using plain acetone, which any hardware store will carry. MEK (methyl
ethyl ketone) is something else you might try (also available at any
hardware store).

Be careful not to get any of this stuff on the rubber bead around the
windshield.

-MP

David Huguet II

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I mistakenly used a too abrasive pad when cleaning my windshield one
day and left lots of fine scratches on the surface. They catch the
light from streetlights at night and sunlight during the day and it's
very distracting.

Has anyone found a product that can polish/rub these scratches off and
leave a nice smooth finish?

Dave

D J Mann

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In article <8ujsbf$6gr$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, rob...@my-deja.com wrote:

Depends on where you live. The enviro-weenies have had it banned in a lot of
locales.

Bob Smith

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I have had good luck with toothpaste but it is a slow process. Bob

James S. Zakany

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In article <d5cNOr3cHN4eVj...@4ax.com>, David Huguet II
<GodR...@vt.edu> wrote:

>I mistakenly used a too abrasive pad when cleaning my windshield one
>day and left lots of fine scratches on the surface. They catch the
>light from streetlights at night and sunlight during the day and it's
>very distracting.

>Has anyone found a product that can polish/rub these scratches off and
>leave a nice smooth finish?

Comprehensive auto insurance. Get a new windshield for the cost of your
deductible.

James S. Zakany, PE

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edtolles

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J.C. Whitney sold a kit made by Boston Felt that contained a felt wheel
and special polishing compound. You run the wheel in a power drill, and it
worked quite well for any scratch not deep enough to catch a fingernail.
-Don

David Huguet II wrote:

> I mistakenly used a too abrasive pad when cleaning my windshield one
> day and left lots of fine scratches on the surface. They catch the
> light from streetlights at night and sunlight during the day and it's
> very distracting.
>
> Has anyone found a product that can polish/rub these scratches off and
> leave a nice smooth finish?
>

> Dave


AdMin NN5

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in article d5cNOr3cHN4eVj...@4ax.com, David Huguet II at
GodR...@vt.edu wrote on 11/11/00 2:03 PM:

> I mistakenly used a too abrasive pad when cleaning my windshield one
> day and left lots of fine scratches on the surface. They catch the
> light from streetlights at night and sunlight during the day and it's
> very distracting.
>
> Has anyone found a product that can polish/rub these scratches off and
> leave a nice smooth finish?
>
> Dave

take it to a body shop or glass shop and have it buffed


Chris

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The best way to get tape off is to use "white gas" or campfuel.

Works very fast and diffinately no scratches.

Chris

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Thomas Moats

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>
> I've tried ammonia and alcohol to clean the outside of my windshield but
> there's still some sort of a residue on the glass that WON'T come off!
> Worst of all, it's on the drivers side. What would be the best way to
clean
> the glass to strip everything off of it. I bought the car used and have
no
> idea what the window was treated with previously. When the wipers go over
> it, it leaves a blurry surface and you can even see it if you look at it
> from the outside. Should I try RainX?
>
> Please provide some ideas.
>
> Thanks
>
>
Have you tried replacing the wiper blades?
Tom


D J Mann

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In article <cr3Y5.6241$Ur5.5...@monger.newsread.com>, "In2hoppn" <in2h...@worldpath.net> wrote:
>Get yourself a can of BON-AMI and apply direct and scrub with wet
>cloth(something durable) or a good mit. This is THE solution for anything
>on the windshield, including rain-x residue. It will remove ANYTHING and
>WON'T scratch the glass. Just keep it wet enough to make a paste and really
>work it. Elbow power definitely required.

I use Bon Ami on glass too, but keep it fairly wet and rub gently. I know bon
ami is not supposed to scratch, but I want to be careful. And yes, it works
well.

D J Mann

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In article <cr3Y5.6241$Ur5.5...@monger.newsread.com>, "In2hoppn" <in2h...@worldpath.net> wrote:

>smear/haze that would dissipate after a few seconds. BON-AMI made a new
>windshield out of it, where scrubbing with windex, or washer fluid, with
>everything from sponges to newspaper wouldn't touch it. This IS your
>solution. It comes in a can like Comet or Ajax, but isn't the same stuff at
>all. It need to be BON-AMI, for all of like 39cents? or 59cents

Forgot to say: make sure it is BonAmi CLEANSER and the label is gold and red,
and says "no bleach". Some marketing areas also have a BonAmi that is as
abrasive as regular scouring powder.

Yitzy

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My Owner's Manual for one of my cars (I forget which,) actually said right
in the manual to use Bon-Ami on the windshield. I had never heard of it
before, but the next time I went to the supermarket I looked for it, and
there it was next to the Ajax and Comet! I was too chicken to try Ajax on my
windshield, so I used the Bon-Ami. But Ajax might have worked too?

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Allen Kirby

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NOOO! Ajax and comet are too abrasive and can scratch the glass. Use ONLY
Bon-Ami - it's made specially for glass.

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Gary Seven

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Make it put on some clothes! :P

2001 Acura 3.2 CL-S No tint, no spoiler or stupid colored bulbs! 100% stock.
"Think like a man of action. Act like a man of thought."
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Phantom

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Sounds to me like you have a RainX residue. I use RainX myself and
find this to be the symptom when it is time to reapply the treatment.
. Other similar products may due the same thing too. I clean by
rubbing hard with Isopropyl Alcohol and use lots of paper towels. then
reapply RainX and be sure to buff it out when dry. Getting a new sec
of blades at least twice a year helps too.

In2hoppn

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Now that's a "wacked" comment from someone who doesn't have a clue what
there talking about.
Professional bodyshops use BON-AMI for buffing paint. Yes, it's an
abrassive. A very MILD abrassive that WILL NOT SCRATCH THE GLASS. Comparing
it to rubbing compound, steel wool, #400 wet/dry... is a statement made from
pure IGNORANCE. Like the can says, "hasn't scratch yet". It's not just a
fine abrasive it's a soft abrasive. Now of course, you need to do a
"normal" cleaning. If your scrubbing in the normal dirt, dust, that
collects on the glass or small rocks in your cloth or mit, you'll be adding
some scratching. These things are hard enough to damage the glass. Start
with everything clean. You won't be polishing/removing a layer of glass.
Just cleaning the offending substances from the surface. When I did mine,
there wasn't any "going about it lightly". With everything clean,
windshield wet and mit clean and wet, I dumped the stuff right on and
scrubbed the he(double hockey sticks) out of it. Small circular motion with
plenty of pressure. Rinse, repeat, and I'm telling you "IT ISN'T
SCRATCHED".

Right from the can: (including suggested retail price of 59cents, of which
BTW I get nothing)
I'm impressed enough to pass along what BON AMI says on the can:

quote
THERE MUST BE A REASON WHY
Bon Ami is specifically reocmmended by such concerned companies and brands
as:
Corning Ware Pyrex Ware
Rival Farberware
Amana Congoleum
West Bend Regal Ware
Romany-Spartan Cuisinarts
Ceramic Tile $ many others
THE REASON IS SIMPLE
Bon Ami is tough. Not rough. It doesn't scratch like harsh silica
cleansers. It polishes stains away. Keeps new things looking new. Like
Sinks & Tubs. Cookware, Tile, Glasstop Stoves.
HOW TO USE
HARD SURFACES: Wet surface. Sprinkle on Bon Ami. Rub with wet sponge or
cloth. Rinse.
MODERN SURFACES (such as fiberglass tubs & showers, imitation marble sinks,
etc.):
Sprinkle Bon Ami onto a wet sponge, use plenty of water, rub gently as
needed & rinse well.

NOTE: These surfaces are delicate, so use axtra care when cleaning them.
end quote

So, I'd guess you need to choose between that hazing, blurring, can't see
for beans with my wipers on problem against ending up with a windshield with
"millions of tiny scratches" that don't show at all.
Then of course, glass isn't a good thing to have facing the wind and road
debris to begin with. Perhaps the best thing to do is "remove while
driving" : )


"Bob" <uctr...@ultranet.com> wrote in message

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> On Fri, 8 Dec 2000 11:50:42 -0500, "Yitzy" <yi...@nospam.sprynet.com>
> wrote:
>
> >BON-AMI
>
> You guys are all whacked. Bon-ami... might as well use rubbing
> compound... or maybe just go right to the steel wool... heck, let's
> just use some #400 wet/dry - that'll remove any foreign substances
> from the glass !
>
> Bon-ami is *abrasive*. It damages the optical quality of your
> windshield by creating millions of tiny scratches. These scratches
> prism the light and reduce visibility. DON'T use abrasives on glass.
>
> Bob


RLB

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between my family we own seven auto-body shops, six of them for repair and
one is a custom shop only. we wouldn't use Bon-Ami if you paid us. But if
you're up for using it, fine cut rubbing compound will do the exact same
thing as that will. if you go to an auto-body supply shop you should be
able to get a small bottle of glass buffing compound it doesn't cost very
much and it goes a long way.


in article pRoY5.57$g43....@newshog.newsread.com, In2hoppn at
in2h...@worldpath.net wrote on 12/9/00 6:39 AM:

IanCT

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Try a spray bottle called Contractor's Solvent (or Contractor's Solution)
something like that. I saw it in the local ACE Hardware store. It removes
oil, tar, asphalt tar, goo, all sorts of stuff and it safe on wood, cured
paint, etc...

Will probably remove what you're speaking of.

r/
-Ian

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Allen Kirby

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No, you're whacked. Maybe you need to tell NASA what idiots they were.
Here's a direct quote from the bonami web site:

"Bon Ami Cleaning Powder is the same 1886 formula but in powder form. and in
a easy to shake round can. Both contain gentle feldspar abrasive for
polishing and soap for cleaning all hard surfaces. Use to defog windows
and mirrors. NASA even used Cleaning Powder to clean the windows on
Skylab."

Some vehicle mfrs even recommend it in the Owner's manual. It does not
damage the windshield or any other glass.

swe...@kickapoo.com

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On Sun, 9 Dec 3900 11:39:01, "In2hoppn" <in2h...@worldpath.net>
wrote:

> Now that's a "wacked" comment from someone who doesn't have a clue what

> they're talking about.
<<snippage>>


> Professional bodyshops use BON-AMI for buffing paint. Yes, it's an
> abrassive. A very MILD abrassive that WILL NOT SCRATCH THE GLASS.

> Bon Ami is specifically reocmmended by such concerned companies and brands
> as:
> Corning Ware Pyrex Ware
> Rival Farberware
> Amana Congoleum
> West Bend Regal Ware
> Romany-Spartan Cuisinarts
> Ceramic Tile $ many others

Curious that none of the above products appear to involve OPTICAL
situations. If you really want to use
something like BON-AMI I'd try it out on, say, the left rear
window. Then look thru the cleaned glass thru sunlight at all
different angles. Sunlight late in the day seems to show up more
defects due to low angle and warm-shift of spectrum.

BTW, avoid using a product that may have been sitting under the
kitchen sink for 20 years! Formulation may have changed since
then while the name remains the same.

Vacuo

'The Earth may be flat, but History is circular.'
Vacuo 2000

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Proconsul

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Is there no end to this incredibly stupid thread???

PC

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Thomas Moats

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"IanCT" <thur...@earthling.noooospammmmm.net> wrote in message
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> What I find amazing is that its always the windshield. Has any body
thought that maybe the wiper arm spring may be weak. If it is the blade will
never has enough pressure applied to it to be an effective squeegee. The
other possibility is that uv light destroys wiper blades very quickly.
Blades become hard, but look ok, again it will streak.
I'm also courious, if it is a chemical on the windshield, why only the
drivers side? When water is sprayed on it, does the water behave differently
on the drivers side as opposed to the passenger side? If there was a
chemical on it one would assume it would. If you wax 1/2 of your hood, water
beads on the 1/2 that has the wax correct¿
Tom


Proconsul

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Sadly, it's a commentary on the fact that public education HAS "dumbed down"
the last two generations to the point of idiocy......:(

PC

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| On Sat, 09 Dec 2000 18:02:15 GMT, "Proconsul" <nos...@nospam.com>


| wrote:
|
| >Is there no end to this incredibly stupid thread???
| >
|

| No way, Hose, it's too much fun.
|
| Bob


Warren

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Ever drop your glasses in the sand, and play truck with them?!! Thats what
youll get with Ajax!! Bon Ami is non abrasive, and works pretty good. I
use any good foam spray on my exterior after every wash (about once a week)

Warren


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In2hoppn

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You do make valid points. However, something like a brand new glass stove
top probably wouldn't look very new if it was installed and then cleaned
with "steel wool, rubbing compound,...#400 wet/dry". Yet, the manufacturer
recommends Bon Ami...hmmm.

I suppose if for some strange reason I'll be using my windshield for a cover
slide under my microscope, I'll reconcider. Meanwhile, when I can't see
well to drive in rain, with new wipers that keep hazing because nothing else
seems to remove the problem, I certainly won't hesitate to use Bon Ami. For
I HAVE used it. And my windshield is not scratched or hazed. Here where I
live, we have very bright sun near sunset, and most highways are non-divided
two way traffic. While most people only replace a windshield for cracks
that won't pass inspection, I wouldn't hesitate to replace one for
scratching or pitting. (BTW bon ami won't remove pits) So, having used it
sucessfully, I definitely recommend it. Now if you personally have managed
to scratch and ruin a windshield with this stuff, I'd be investigating if
maybe ''some" windshields are too soft for it. Glass does have different
hardnesses, and telescope, binoculars, and eyeglasses are not all the same
glass. Nor do they have wipers running on them causing streaking or
filming. So you see, I spoke from experience and recommended a perfectly
viable solution for the original post here. You, I believe, speak from
opinion, based on speculation that while is obviously well intended, simply
is proved wrong by experience. For I believe (a little speculation of my
own here) that the abrasive involved here is softer than the glass and
unable to scratch it. Because believe me, I really scrubbed this
windshield. It's only a couple years old (replacement) and with exception
to a little pitting, it's crystal clear.

While I continue to enjoy a friendly debate, the sad part here is that I see
no indication that the original poster is following this thread... ; )

>
> Notice that these are COOKING ware. Not OPTICAL glass. Notice that
> it does NOT say "Use on your telescope, binoculars, and eyeglasses".
>
> Odd omission for something meant for optical glass, eh ?
>
> Bob


Ed McCrudden

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In article <rke73ts6oi35pc1du...@4ax.com>,
uctr...@ultranet.com says...
> Feldspar, the abrasive in bon ami ( as noted by a previous bon ami
> fan) is ROCK. it is not softer than glass.

Feldspar is the polishing agent in toothpaste. Would you say tooth enamel
is harder than glass? If feldspar is soft enough for toothpaste, it sure
as hell isn't going to hurt your windshield.


chunky

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C'mon guys, Feldspar has a Moh hardness of 6, around the same as most glass. Toughened safety glass as used on car windscreens
*should* be harder than feldspar.

As for feldspar being a rock, so what? There are plenty of softer rocks that wouldn't even come near to scratching glass.

I say if it works for you then fine, if you're not convinced then leave it on the shelf.

Just my tuppenceworth, as always ymmv.

chunky

In2hoppn

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I take that to mean it IS safe for glass, including most windshields. I can
say for sure that it's safe for a VW Rabbit stock replacement windshield. I
think the UV blocking reddish tint windshields (you know, the ugly ones...?)
may have a coating, but I believe it's on the INSIDE. Perhaps a little
further "windshield research" is in order here, to be completely
"definative". Furthermore, while they do not "recommend" it for windshields
in general, due to the possibility of a special coating... certainly doesn't
mean it can't be used on a "normal" windshield. And supporting it's use on
windows and mirrors certainly indicates it's not going to scratch the
"glass" of a windshield. So, guess I'll have to start adding the special
coating clause to any further recommendations... and maybe we can get more
info up on the special coatings.

Any indication the original poster of this thread is following the
descussion?? Was make/year of car mentioned??

Good work "Bob". While this stuff has worked great for me and others, and
definitely without scratching, I had not concidered any windshield coatings
and could (may have) recommended someone possibly making quite a mess of
one. Although I still believe the coating is on the inside. Now where are
we going to find more information about that? Anyone got it handy?

In2hoppn
"unlike a Democrat, who can't say a word of reason that leans toward the
Republican side, or a Republican who can't say a word of reason that leans
toward the Democratic side, we on the NG debates need not hold stubborness
beyond our own personal reasoning..."

"Bob" <uctr...@ultranet.com> wrote in message

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> Here is the DEFINATIVE answer. I emailed BonAmi and asked them
> about using their cleaning powder on a windshield. Here is the
> response, complete with headers from Bon-ami support:
>
> Return-Path: in...@Faultless.com
> Received: from web_email.private.faultless.com ([63.81.172.22]) by
> acestes-fe0.ultra.net (8.8.8/ult/n20340/mtc.v2) with ESMTP id RAA21461
> for <uctr...@ultranet.com>; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 17:52:35 -0500 (EST)
> Received: by WEB_EMAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21)
> id <XZZKRTBA>; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 17:06:37 -0600
> Message-ID: <DFCE08407EE8D311A6EB00902789DD9516E88D@WEB_EMAIL>
> From: info <in...@Faultless.com>
> To: "'Bob'" <uctr...@ultranet.com>
> Subject: RE: Cleaning Auto Windowshields with BonAmi ?
> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 17:06:35 -0600
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>
> Dear Bob:
>
> We DO NOT recommend using Bon Ami Cleaning Powder on your windshield.
> Many of the newer windshields may have a special coating that could
> scratch. It may be used on windows and mirrors.
>
> Sincerely,
> Marcie Bonin
> Home Economist


Bill

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Hi,
My 97 Galant ES has this recurring problem of a residue on its
windshield that won't come off with regular glass cleaners. From time to
time, I wash the windshield and wiper blades in Coke Classic (the original
Coca-Cola with phosphoric acid in it), then wash the Coke off with a water
hose. That works for me.
Bill

~bigmoney

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Use a little baking soda and water on a damp sponge. This will remove the
grease and dirt buildup on the blades.
~bigmoney


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RG

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I think gm recommends bon-ami to do the trick.
it doesn't have abrasives and will remove any film.
hth

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Thomas Moats

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Are we back to that again¿
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Chris Phillipo

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RG wrote:

> I think gm recommends bon-ami to do the trick.
> it doesn't have abrasives and will remove any film.
> hth
>

Get the foam in the spray can it's quick and easy.

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Proconsul

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Sadly, it appears that it will never go away.....:(

PC

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Dean Dardwin

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Bill,

Replace your wiper blades. As you do, clean the windshield with rubbing
alcohol. The silicone used at many car washes impregnates the rubber in the
wiper blades and then streaks the windshield. Try a different car wash.

Dean

write....@gmail.com

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On Monday, November 6, 2000 at 1:30:00 PM UTC+5:30, dt wrote:
> I've tried ammonia and alcohol to clean the outside of my windshield but
> there's still some sort of a residue on the glass that WON'T come off!
> Worst of all, it's on the drivers side. What would be the best way to clean
> the glass to strip everything off of it. I bought the car used and have no
> idea what the window was treated with previously. When the wipers go over
> it, it leaves a blurry surface and you can even see it if you look at it
> from the outside. Should I try RainX?
>
> Please provide some ideas.
>
> Thanks

I had this problem in my earlier car and the new car I am using now. I was wondering why this happens in a new car. All my internet searches lead me many things not worked for me.

Things did NOT work for me are:
1. Vinegar Treatment
2. Lime scale remover
3. Glass cleaner
4. Detergents
5. All highly priced branded car windshield cleaners
6. Lime Juice
what not...Nothing worked.
Some said like use a clay bar...blah, blah....

**But the solution is simple and here it is**

Just wash your wind shield with **DISH WASHER SOLUTION**. I live in Chennai, I used Vim Solution, But then it shall be the case with every good dish washer solution out there in the grocery shop. Just use about 20 drops of dish washer solution, spray little water, rub it with a cloth or hands to lather and wipe of. Then wash and wipe with water.

In my understanding, the Tar / residual hydrocarbons from the vehicle exhaust get deposited on the wind shield and form a thin sticky film that causes smudge when wiped by the wipers. Don't waste your money buying highly priced car items sold in the Petrol Bunks, car accessory shops etc, I found them simply useless.

If you find spotted smudges, may be you could shave them off with a new shaving blade (INR 10 approx) or you can resort lime scale remover solutions.

Ed Pawlowski

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Nov 3, 2017, 3:11:37 PM11/3/17
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After 17 years, finally a solution., In some of the big cities it is
not a problem because at the stop lights there are people that will wash
your windshield for you. These are specialized windshield technicians
performing the service.
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