Please provide some ideas.
Thanks
Try using a product called Bon-Ami. It comes in a cardboard can like a
parmesan cheese container, and you can usually find it at a good-sized
grocery store next to the Windex or Comet products.
Basically, it's marketed as glass polish. It is an extremely mild abrasive,
so don't be scared if you find it next to Comet on the store shelf. The
stock-boys likely don't know the difference between Comet and Bon-Ami.
Follow the instructions, and rinse with clear water after use. Then apply
Rain-X and buff, buff, buff until your arms hurt. You will end up with a
crystal-clear windshield.
I used Bon-Ami when I was in the screen-printing biz for prepping store
windows to be printed. I swear by it for cleaning oil and other nasty things
off of glass.
Todd
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Ben
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Bon Ami, you say? What a discovery! I am 77
years old and my mother used that stuff in our
house as far back as I can remember. I guess what
goes around comes around. (^_^)
Hal
Not only is is non-caustic, but it is made with abrasives that are softer than
what you find in stuff like Comet, Ajax, or Bab-O. It is very good on glass,
and if you rub gently to moderately you will do no harm at all. I used it to
"revive" a windshield on a 93 Plymouth that was so covered with bug guck, car
wash "spray wax" and other nasties. It's amazing stuff, and it is cheap.
Gold foil lable with red band. You know you have the right stuff if it says
"bon ami", and "hasn't scratched yet".
The only thing I'd warn about is that newer cans of Bon-Ami have "glass"
removed from the "safe to use on" list on the can (still have the old stuff
around, so I don't know if they changed it again recently). Did they change
the ingredients to something more abrasive?
If you haven't already, try getting new wiper blades... might be something
simple as that!
-AJR
If I remember any of my chemistry, lemon
contains citric acid, which is what
gives it its tart taste. I'm not sure
what effect it might have on glass, but
I sure wouldn't be using it on any kind
of paint finish without a prompt and
thorough rinsing.
Hal
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>
>
> I've tried ammonia and alcohol to clean the outside of my windshield but
> there's still some sort of a residue on the glass that WON'T come off!
> Worst of all, it's on the drivers side. What would be the best way to clean
> the glass to strip everything off of it. I bought the car used and have no
> idea what the window was treated with previously. When the wipers go over
> it, it leaves a blurry surface and you can even see it if you look at it
> from the outside. Should I try RainX?
>
> Please provide some ideas.
>
> Thanks
>
>
the windshield could have been repaired
A similar thread, last year or so, indicated Bon Ami had
been reformulated and could cause damage to the windshield.
Caveat Emptor...
Woody
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> I used Bon-Ami when I was in the screen-printing biz for prepping store
> windows to be printed. I swear by it for cleaning oil and other nasty things
> off of glass.
>
> Todd
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>The only thing I'd warn about is that newer cans of Bon-Ami have "glass"
>removed from the "safe to use on" list on the can (still have the old stuff
>around, so I don't know if they changed it again recently). Did they change
>the ingredients to something more abrasive?
Indeed? Maybe if they have an 800 number on the can, it'd be good to call
them and find out.
>I've had awesome results with greased lightning applied with a 3M pad (those
>green scrubby thingies that you can use in the kitchen instead of steel wool).
Those 3m Scotchbrite pads will tear bluing off a rifle, plated coatings
off of hardened steel cutter blades and can scratch glass. Be careful!
The theory behind using vinegar or lemon juice is that the acid will
react and remove to hard water lime deposits.
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>
Mike
That's exactly what I used when someone got spray paint on my
windows....works like a charm. Makes perfect sense!
Basil M.
1) Newspaper with window cleaner - works well with the haze on the interior
from smoking, vinyl fog, etc.
2) Brake cleaner - spray on newspaper or paper towel away from the car so it
doesn't get on the paint. Brake cleaner will remove any wax or road tar
film on the glass and won't leave a film on the glass after it evaporates.
Carb cleaner will leave a film so avoid using carb cleaner.
3) When all else fails, use size 00 or finer steel wool with window cleaner,
soap and water, or brake cleaner. Don't use any elbow grease at all when
using steel wool. Just use you fingers to go over the glass lightly.
Good luck.
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Try pouring coca-cola on the glass while wet then use the wipers.
This is an old trucker trick.
On Wed, 08 Nov 2000 08:51:44 -0600, Mike Grey <mg...@gpsocket.com>
wrote:
>Try using Window cleaning paste made by RainX - it comes in a bottle (paste
>form) and has polishing compounds (similar to pumice). It is supposed to take
>everything off of glass - I have had very good luck with it.
>
>Mike
>
>
>>
>> "dt" <d...@dt.com> wrote in message
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>> >
>I used RainX all the time until I heard it actually etches your windshield
>to work.
>
>
Bad data. It applies a very thin film of teflon.
The haze you see is because you didn't buff it enough. It takes a lot
of buffing to really set the Rain-X. When the haze disappears, you've
rubbed it enough.
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Paul
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> Agreed. I used RainX on my old Topaz for 3 years, no problems - except
those
> old people staring at me while traveling the interstate at 70mp in a
> thunderstorm with no wipers on.
>
>
> "Jeff Rivers" <je...@spam-is-a-crime.rcia.com> wrote in message
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Having just done a PILE of painting here in Nova Scotia Canada, I can
assure you that TSP is readily and cheaply available here. I can also
testify to its cleaning and degreasing properties but I haven'y tried it
on glass yet. Seeing (pun?) as I have a few streaky windshields out in the
driveway, I ought to give it a try. Tomorrow...
0000 steel wool, used GENTLY, will not cause a problem. 0000 is very very
fine indeed.
Anything that resembles rubbing compound (ultrafine silica)
will wear away the top surface of the windshield. It will
remove the calcium deposits (water rings, raindrop spots)
and some of the fine scratches, but your windshield will
be just a tad thinner...
Since the "permanent" spotting is caused by calcium/lime
deposits, you can remove them with something that reacts
with calcium such as any acidic solution. Base (as in
acid vs base) solutions won't work anywhere as well as
an acidic solution in removing calcium.
Mild acidic solutions will not react with glass (acids
are stored in glass containers) with the exceptions of
exotic acids which NONE of us will use on the windshield
so it makes no sense to point out that alien blood or
hydroflouric acid will etch glass.
If you do use an acidic solution, don't get it near any
of the rubber or other surrounding trim around the
windshield. Acidic solutions will weaken the surround.
I don't know if that "lime away" stuff used in bathrooms
to remove calcium deposits on shower stall glass will
be safe to apply. When you rinse the windshield off,
the stuff will wash down the plastic windshield drain
wells. I suppose that if you use enough rinse water,
the flushing action will wash all the chemicals out
of the drain system.
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> actually, that was recommended for use by the a GM dealer in Hawaii. 0000
grade steel wool is very fine and does not scar or scratch the windshield,
nor any glass.
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Before you buy.
If I may...
Fingernail polish remover will leave a film of it's own.
In addition to acetone, fingernail polish remover contains a whole
smattering of other ingredients that will leave it's own residue on glass
(ethoxylated lanolin, glycerin, geletin, aloe vera, etc.). You'd be better
off using plain acetone, which any hardware store will carry. MEK (methyl
ethyl ketone) is something else you might try (also available at any
hardware store).
Be careful not to get any of this stuff on the rubber bead around the
windshield.
-MP
Has anyone found a product that can polish/rub these scratches off and
leave a nice smooth finish?
Dave
Depends on where you live. The enviro-weenies have had it banned in a lot of
locales.
>I mistakenly used a too abrasive pad when cleaning my windshield one
>day and left lots of fine scratches on the surface. They catch the
>light from streetlights at night and sunlight during the day and it's
>very distracting.
>Has anyone found a product that can polish/rub these scratches off and
>leave a nice smooth finish?
Comprehensive auto insurance. Get a new windshield for the cost of your
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David Huguet II wrote:
> I mistakenly used a too abrasive pad when cleaning my windshield one
> day and left lots of fine scratches on the surface. They catch the
> light from streetlights at night and sunlight during the day and it's
> very distracting.
>
> Has anyone found a product that can polish/rub these scratches off and
> leave a nice smooth finish?
>
> Dave
> I mistakenly used a too abrasive pad when cleaning my windshield one
> day and left lots of fine scratches on the surface. They catch the
> light from streetlights at night and sunlight during the day and it's
> very distracting.
>
> Has anyone found a product that can polish/rub these scratches off and
> leave a nice smooth finish?
>
> Dave
take it to a body shop or glass shop and have it buffed
Works very fast and diffinately no scratches.
Chris
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I use Bon Ami on glass too, but keep it fairly wet and rub gently. I know bon
ami is not supposed to scratch, but I want to be careful. And yes, it works
well.
>smear/haze that would dissipate after a few seconds. BON-AMI made a new
>windshield out of it, where scrubbing with windex, or washer fluid, with
>everything from sponges to newspaper wouldn't touch it. This IS your
>solution. It comes in a can like Comet or Ajax, but isn't the same stuff at
>all. It need to be BON-AMI, for all of like 39cents? or 59cents
Forgot to say: make sure it is BonAmi CLEANSER and the label is gold and red,
and says "no bleach". Some marketing areas also have a BonAmi that is as
abrasive as regular scouring powder.
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Right from the can: (including suggested retail price of 59cents, of which
BTW I get nothing)
I'm impressed enough to pass along what BON AMI says on the can:
quote
THERE MUST BE A REASON WHY
Bon Ami is specifically reocmmended by such concerned companies and brands
as:
Corning Ware Pyrex Ware
Rival Farberware
Amana Congoleum
West Bend Regal Ware
Romany-Spartan Cuisinarts
Ceramic Tile $ many others
THE REASON IS SIMPLE
Bon Ami is tough. Not rough. It doesn't scratch like harsh silica
cleansers. It polishes stains away. Keeps new things looking new. Like
Sinks & Tubs. Cookware, Tile, Glasstop Stoves.
HOW TO USE
HARD SURFACES: Wet surface. Sprinkle on Bon Ami. Rub with wet sponge or
cloth. Rinse.
MODERN SURFACES (such as fiberglass tubs & showers, imitation marble sinks,
etc.):
Sprinkle Bon Ami onto a wet sponge, use plenty of water, rub gently as
needed & rinse well.
NOTE: These surfaces are delicate, so use axtra care when cleaning them.
end quote
So, I'd guess you need to choose between that hazing, blurring, can't see
for beans with my wipers on problem against ending up with a windshield with
"millions of tiny scratches" that don't show at all.
Then of course, glass isn't a good thing to have facing the wind and road
debris to begin with. Perhaps the best thing to do is "remove while
driving" : )
"Bob" <uctr...@ultranet.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 8 Dec 2000 11:50:42 -0500, "Yitzy" <yi...@nospam.sprynet.com>
> wrote:
>
> >BON-AMI
>
> You guys are all whacked. Bon-ami... might as well use rubbing
> compound... or maybe just go right to the steel wool... heck, let's
> just use some #400 wet/dry - that'll remove any foreign substances
> from the glass !
>
> Bon-ami is *abrasive*. It damages the optical quality of your
> windshield by creating millions of tiny scratches. These scratches
> prism the light and reduce visibility. DON'T use abrasives on glass.
>
> Bob
in article pRoY5.57$g43....@newshog.newsread.com, In2hoppn at
in2h...@worldpath.net wrote on 12/9/00 6:39 AM:
Will probably remove what you're speaking of.
r/
-Ian
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"Bon Ami Cleaning Powder is the same 1886 formula but in powder form. and in
a easy to shake round can. Both contain gentle feldspar abrasive for
polishing and soap for cleaning all hard surfaces. Use to defog windows
and mirrors. NASA even used Cleaning Powder to clean the windows on
Skylab."
Some vehicle mfrs even recommend it in the Owner's manual. It does not
damage the windshield or any other glass.
On Sun, 9 Dec 3900 11:39:01, "In2hoppn" <in2h...@worldpath.net>
wrote:
> Now that's a "wacked" comment from someone who doesn't have a clue what
> they're talking about.
<<snippage>>
> Professional bodyshops use BON-AMI for buffing paint. Yes, it's an
> abrassive. A very MILD abrassive that WILL NOT SCRATCH THE GLASS.
> Bon Ami is specifically reocmmended by such concerned companies and brands
> as:
> Corning Ware Pyrex Ware
> Rival Farberware
> Amana Congoleum
> West Bend Regal Ware
> Romany-Spartan Cuisinarts
> Ceramic Tile $ many others
Curious that none of the above products appear to involve OPTICAL
situations. If you really want to use
something like BON-AMI I'd try it out on, say, the left rear
window. Then look thru the cleaned glass thru sunlight at all
different angles. Sunlight late in the day seems to show up more
defects due to low angle and warm-shift of spectrum.
BTW, avoid using a product that may have been sitting under the
kitchen sink for 20 years! Formulation may have changed since
then while the name remains the same.
Vacuo
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| On Sat, 09 Dec 2000 18:02:15 GMT, "Proconsul" <nos...@nospam.com>
| wrote:
|
| >Is there no end to this incredibly stupid thread???
| >
|
| No way, Hose, it's too much fun.
|
| Bob
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I suppose if for some strange reason I'll be using my windshield for a cover
slide under my microscope, I'll reconcider. Meanwhile, when I can't see
well to drive in rain, with new wipers that keep hazing because nothing else
seems to remove the problem, I certainly won't hesitate to use Bon Ami. For
I HAVE used it. And my windshield is not scratched or hazed. Here where I
live, we have very bright sun near sunset, and most highways are non-divided
two way traffic. While most people only replace a windshield for cracks
that won't pass inspection, I wouldn't hesitate to replace one for
scratching or pitting. (BTW bon ami won't remove pits) So, having used it
sucessfully, I definitely recommend it. Now if you personally have managed
to scratch and ruin a windshield with this stuff, I'd be investigating if
maybe ''some" windshields are too soft for it. Glass does have different
hardnesses, and telescope, binoculars, and eyeglasses are not all the same
glass. Nor do they have wipers running on them causing streaking or
filming. So you see, I spoke from experience and recommended a perfectly
viable solution for the original post here. You, I believe, speak from
opinion, based on speculation that while is obviously well intended, simply
is proved wrong by experience. For I believe (a little speculation of my
own here) that the abrasive involved here is softer than the glass and
unable to scratch it. Because believe me, I really scrubbed this
windshield. It's only a couple years old (replacement) and with exception
to a little pitting, it's crystal clear.
While I continue to enjoy a friendly debate, the sad part here is that I see
no indication that the original poster is following this thread... ; )
>
> Notice that these are COOKING ware. Not OPTICAL glass. Notice that
> it does NOT say "Use on your telescope, binoculars, and eyeglasses".
>
> Odd omission for something meant for optical glass, eh ?
>
> Bob
Feldspar is the polishing agent in toothpaste. Would you say tooth enamel
is harder than glass? If feldspar is soft enough for toothpaste, it sure
as hell isn't going to hurt your windshield.
As for feldspar being a rock, so what? There are plenty of softer rocks that wouldn't even come near to scratching glass.
I say if it works for you then fine, if you're not convinced then leave it on the shelf.
Just my tuppenceworth, as always ymmv.
chunky
Any indication the original poster of this thread is following the
descussion?? Was make/year of car mentioned??
Good work "Bob". While this stuff has worked great for me and others, and
definitely without scratching, I had not concidered any windshield coatings
and could (may have) recommended someone possibly making quite a mess of
one. Although I still believe the coating is on the inside. Now where are
we going to find more information about that? Anyone got it handy?
In2hoppn
"unlike a Democrat, who can't say a word of reason that leans toward the
Republican side, or a Republican who can't say a word of reason that leans
toward the Democratic side, we on the NG debates need not hold stubborness
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> Here is the DEFINATIVE answer. I emailed BonAmi and asked them
> about using their cleaning powder on a windshield. Here is the
> response, complete with headers from Bon-ami support:
>
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> From: info <in...@Faultless.com>
> To: "'Bob'" <uctr...@ultranet.com>
> Subject: RE: Cleaning Auto Windowshields with BonAmi ?
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> Dear Bob:
>
> We DO NOT recommend using Bon Ami Cleaning Powder on your windshield.
> Many of the newer windshields may have a special coating that could
> scratch. It may be used on windows and mirrors.
>
> Sincerely,
> Marcie Bonin
> Home Economist
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RG wrote:
> I think gm recommends bon-ami to do the trick.
> it doesn't have abrasives and will remove any film.
> hth
>
Get the foam in the spray can it's quick and easy.
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Replace your wiper blades. As you do, clean the windshield with rubbing
alcohol. The silicone used at many car washes impregnates the rubber in the
wiper blades and then streaks the windshield. Try a different car wash.
Dean