351W Swap into 1984 Mustang LX
Daniel Ziehm
l 4-cylinderengine in it. I have a 351 Windsor motor from a 1979
Thunderbird. Will
this Engine fit in my car? If so, what kind of equipment will I have
tobuy (Suspension, Engine Mounts, Shift kit ETC.), Also, If this engine
swap can be accomplished would I be able to use the Tranny and
drive-shaft from the T-Bird (I know I would have to cut the drive shaft
down a bit). The Transmission that is in the mustang is an automatic
that went with the 2.3 liter engine. Any help you could give me on this
subject would be greatly appreciated.
Please e-mail me with any replies.
Thank you,
Dan Ziehm
Brian
Scott McCaslin
Brian wrote in message <6rbbc9$a...@journal.concentric.net>...
>Seems like that tranny might be kinda weak for all that power.
>
well if he's refering to the the tranny out of the donnor car then that
one's fine but if he wants to use the 4 banger
tranny....................well that just plain won't work
anyway............different bolt patters and all................
Scott McCaslin
I'm in the middle of swapping a '69 Mach I 351W into my '90 mustang 2.3
auto. Actually I have just finished gathering up most of the parts I'm going
to need. I'll address your specific questions in the order they are listed.
I also plan to keep extensive notes and pictures of the project to make a
web page out of for guys out there just like you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Ziehm <danz...@freewwweb.com>
Newsgroups: alt.autos.ford
Date: Monday, August 17, 1998 6:12 PM
Subject: 351W Swap into 1984 Mustang LX
>I have the body of a 1984 Mustang LX (had a blown Motor) that had a 2.3
>l 4-cylinderengine in it. I have a 351 Windsor motor from a 1979
>Thunderbird. Will
>this Engine fit in my car?
yes it fit's just fine. The only difference in a 302 and a 351W is a small
amount in deck height.
>If so, what kind of equipment will I have
>tobuy (Suspension, Engine Mounts, Shift kit ETC.),
For saftey I would recomend calling Dugan Raceing (I'll give you the number
if you need it) and have them send you the following parts:
351W oilpan swap kit /w motor mounts (new) $195
Front and Rear Swaybars (used) $90
5.0 Crossmember (new) $69
5.0 Spindels, Rotors, & Calipers (used both sides) $250
5.0 Drive shaft (used) $50 (can't get one cut for that)
You'll also need to get a radiator for mustang. I found a 3 core for $168
bucks (new). And of course you'll need headers, h-pipe, mufflers, and
tail-pipes.
>Also, If this engine
>swap can be accomplished would I be able to use the Tranny and
>drive-shaft from the T-Bird (I know I would have to cut the drive shaft
>down a bit).
The tranny from the bird should be just fine (probably a c-4), and like I
already said Dugan can get you a used driveshaft for 50 bucks or you can get
an aluminum drive shaft from ford SVO for like 70 bucks.
>The Transmission that is in the mustang is an automatic
>that went with the 2.3 liter engine. Any help you could give me on this
>subject would be greatly appreciated.
The Tranny from the 2.3 will not work. It has a different bolt pattern.]
Richard Perry
have a much heavier engine so your front & rear suspension will need
considerable work. Not only that you are placing a heavy engine in a car
that is nororiouly light on the rear end, example, the 5.0 get real squirly
at about 140 mph, the rear end wants to float. So now you are going to add
more weight to the front end, and guess what, that is going to amplify the
rear tendancy to float.
You need to change the rear end for two reasons, the stock rear end will not
handle the torque of the 351 and the gear ratio is too low.
In the early 70s I stuck a 427 in a 66 mustang, beefed the suspension,
tricked it out the best I could and all it wanted to do is destroy my rear
tires and spin on corners. It was a over powered night mare.
Big blocks are great for the right car, but I don't think you will be happy
with your choice in the long run. If this was a great idea, don't you think
ford would have done it by now.
But you are starting off with the right idea, get all the advice you can,
talk to some local performance people in your area and get their opinions,
but you are taking on a big job, and it will not be cheap if you do it
right.
Richard Perry
ASE certified Tech
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per...@pacbell.net
Daniel Ziehm wrote in message <35D8AADF...@freewwweb.com>...
>I have the body of a 1984 Mustang LX (had a blown Motor) that had a 2.3
>l 4-cylinderengine in it. I have a 351 Windsor motor from a 1979
>Thunderbird. Will
>this Engine fit in my car? If so, what kind of equipment will I have
>tobuy (Suspension, Engine Mounts, Shift kit ETC.), Also, If this engine
>swap can be accomplished would I be able to use the Tranny and
>drive-shaft from the T-Bird (I know I would have to cut the drive shaft
>down a bit). The Transmission that is in the mustang is an automatic
>that went with the 2.3 liter engine. Any help you could give me on this
>subject would be greatly appreciated.
>
dbug
<per...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>Sticking a 351 in your mustang is going to create some real problems. You
>have a much heavier engine so your front & rear suspension will need
>considerable work. Not only that you are placing a heavy engine in a car
>that is nororiouly light on the rear end, example, the 5.0 get real squirly
>at about 140 mph, the rear end wants to float. So now you are going to add
>more weight to the front end, and guess what, that is going to amplify the
>rear tendancy to float.
>
>You need to change the rear end for two reasons, the stock rear end will not
>handle the torque of the 351 and the gear ratio is too low.
>
>In the early 70s I stuck a 427 in a 66 mustang, beefed the suspension,
>tricked it out the best I could and all it wanted to do is destroy my rear
>tires and spin on corners. It was a over powered night mare.
>
>Big blocks are great for the right car, but I don't think you will be happy
>with your choice in the long run. If this was a great idea, don't you think
>ford would have done it by now.
In Fact, Ford did do this one. I believe it was called the 1994
Cobra-R.
Brandon Sparks
different things. 351W is in the same family as the 302, which we all
know Ford put in the Fox body. There will be some trouble due to the
Stang was a 4 banger, but it ain't the swap of the century, either.