Ford Escort starting problems
Mark Mason
Escort Wagon. It has two starting problems, both ... intermittent
<shudder>.
1) The engine turns over but will not catch. We can turn the key to
before the start position and sometimes we hear a bubbling sound in
the rear and it always starts after that. But sometimes it starts
without the bubbling sound. I know there is a reset button in the
back. Is there a fuel pump back there too? This problem is happening
with increasing frequency. When it starts it just fires right up. When
it doesn't it will just wear out the battery. We have taken it to a
dealer and they had it for several days but of course it would not do
it for them.
2) Car dies immediately on starting. Clutch in, no accelerator. It
starts just fine but the tach goes immediately back to zero. If you
put your foot immediately on the accelerator and keep it running and
run it hard down the block it seems to "catch." When it catches it is
fine. When it is doing this no matter how many times it starts, and it
always starts immediately, it dies.
These two problems have not happened at the same time yet. Not once
that I can recall. They "appear" to be independent. They both are
happening about 20% of the time now. I do not know much about cars.
Any help would be appreciated.
- Mark Mason
db...@sprynet.com
an accident??? If so im most cars it is in the trunk, on mine 93 Taurus
on the drivers side, pull the carpet back and there it is, sometimes the
switches go bad and you can push them back in and they dont work, you
can disconnect one wire and put the two wires together to bypass the
swith and it will let the fuel pump operate.(I would only do this for
testing purposes). I recently had the replace the fuel filter and
wanted to take the pressure off the gas line, I just disconnected one
wire on the switch and tried to run the car, started up and then
stopped, the pressure was off, so when I took off the gas line I was
not flooded with gas . when finished, I just put it back on and
started right up. Hope this helps.????? Make sure your next time
this happens you can just take one wire from each side and put them
together and this will bypass the switch to se if this is the
problem....if so just buy another switch and put it in, two screws and
two wires......
Mark Mason
involved(?) As I understand the switch in the back, if it is thrown
or out, the car will not start. This car will start, eventually,
without doing anything in the back to the switch. I mentioned the
switch as I thought it might relate to a 2nd fuel pump in the rear of
the car. The gurgling sound. As you can see I do not know much about
this car. I think I threw you off track?
Thanks again.
Regards -
- Mark
On Fri, 02 Mar 2001 17:59:28 -0600, "db...@sprynet.com"
<db...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>Mark Mason wrote:
<snip>
>>
>> 1) The engine turns over but will not catch. We can turn the key to
>> before the start position and sometimes we hear a bubbling sound in
>> the rear and it always starts after that. But sometimes it starts
>> without the bubbling sound. I know there is a reset button in the
>> back. Is there a fuel pump back there too?
PattiW.
#2 Fix #1 and see what happens.
"Mark Mason" <mas...@bga.com> wrote in message
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Sandman
energize for a few seconds every time you turn the key to ON to pressurize
the fuel line for starting.
"Mark Mason" <mas...@bga.com> wrote in message
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Sandman
number one, look at your ignition module, as you mentioned the tach
immediately going back to zero. the tach gets it's signal from the ignition
module.
"PattiW." <jwisni...@home.com> wrote in message
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Mark Mason
taking the car to the dealer. I will tell them the problems first.
Then tell them to check 1) Fuel Pump and /or Fuel Pump Relay. I will
also have them 2) check the Ignition Module. As the problems are
intermittent, should they not be able to recreate them and not be able
to "check" the above parts I may just tell them to replace them all,
if it is not exhorbitant, in the hopes that that will fix the
problems. I can't leave it there for several days and take it home
un"fixed" can I? I just spent $600, $300 at a time, at a shop to have
my 76 BMW fixed and it still does the exact same thing I took it in
for the previous two times. Car trouble is the worst for me. Thanks
again.
- Mark
Rico Adam
>===== Original Message From "Sandman" <Sandma...@NoSpAmworldnet.att.net>
=====
>There is only one fuel pump, located in the tank, and is supposed to
>energize for a few seconds every time you turn the key to ON to pressurize
>the fuel line for starting.
>
>
>"Mark Mason" <mas...@bga.com> wrote in message
>news:3aa039da...@news3.bga.com...
>> Thanks very much dbird. Actually I do not think the switch is
>> involved(?) As I understand the switch in the back, if it is thrown
>> or out, the car will not start. This car will start, eventually,
>> without doing anything in the back to the switch. I mentioned the
>> switch as I thought it might relate to a 2nd fuel pump in the rear of
>> the car. The gurgling sound. As you can see I do not know much about
>> this car. I think I threw you off track?
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> Regards -
>>
>> - Mark
>>
>> On Fri, 02 Mar 2001 17:59:28 -0600, "db...@sprynet.com"
>> <db...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Mark Mason wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>> >>
>> >> 1) The engine turns over but will not catch. We can turn the key to
>> >> before the start position and sometimes we hear a bubbling sound in
>> >> the rear and it always starts after that. But sometimes it starts
>> >> without the bubbling sound. I know there is a reset button in the
>> >> back. Is there a fuel pump back there too?
>>
>>
>> >You are talking about the switch that turns the gas off when you get in
>> >an accident??? If so im most cars it is in the trunk, on mine 93 Taurus
>> >on the drivers side, pull the carpet back and there it is, sometimes the
>> >switches go bad and you can push them back in and they dont work, you
>> >can disconnect one wire and put the two wires together to bypass the
>> >swith and it will let the fuel pump operate.(I would only do this for
>> >testing purposes). I recently had the replace the fuel filter and
>> >wanted to take the pressure off the gas line, I just disconnected one
>> >wire on the switch and tried to run the car, started up and then
>> >stopped, the pressure was off, so when I took off the gas line I was
>> >not flooded with gas . when finished, I just put it back on and
>> >started right up. Hope this helps.????? Make sure your next time
>> >this happens you can just take one wire from each side and put them
>> >together and this will bypass the switch to se if this is the
>> >problem....if so just buy another switch and put it in, two screws and
>> >two wires......
>>
>
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Fred L. Wellman
the fuel pump. I ended up going to a different dealer and they told me it
was not the fuel pump since it tested as good on the computer. They called
me and told me it was fixed. I could not keep it running to get off of the
dealers lot. I went to the service manager and told him it would be a shame
if this caused an accident and I would then have to sue. I then told him to
forget the computer and replace the damm fuel pump. They did and the car
ran fine for another 100K miles. The down side was the fuel gauge never
worked properly after that. It would be empty at 1/2 a tank. I just used
the trip odometer and refilled at 300 miles. I was not taking my car back
to any Ford Dealer in Indiana unless I had to. I was only in IN 1 year . I
always buy Ford but they have the worst dealers that I have ever seen. Frednews:3aa11f4...@news3.bga.com...