ford workshop manual (Ford WSM)
suem...@gmail.com
able to download the workshop manuals? Is there another place since
that place doesn't seem to be working anymore?
Jeff
The CDs were probably copyrighted by Ford, so Ford protected its rights
by getting the site taken down. You should be able to buy a Ford manual
though.
Jeff
Jeff
Sorry, I meant to say you should be able to get one from the dealer
(although it may be printed rather than CD). Personally, I think that
every vehicle should come with a shop manual on a CD or the option to
download the manual, as well as a USB port and software for laptops, so
you can get all the info you want from the OBD II. But Ford owns the
copyright on the manual, and they have right to sell it for whatever
they want.
Jeff
Max Power
"Jeff" <kidsd...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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is ebay no longer carrying tons of what are probably bootleg copys for
around $10?
Mike hunt
"Jeff" <kidsd...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Jeff
What's your point? If the manufacturers are concerned about copying the
motors, they can just have a costumer copy a shop manual with a
photocopier. Or buy a competitor's car and take the engine apart.
Jeff
Mike hunt
property," and why copyright laws protect that property, have any meaning to
you? ;)
"Jeff" <kidsd...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Jeff
I am well aware of intellectual property laws. Unless there is a patent
on a particular part, there is no law preventing one manufacturer from
copying another's parts. One would be naive to think that copyright laws
prevent one manufacturer from getting other manufacturer's shop manuals.
I mean, you can go into a dealer and buy one.
Jeff
Shawn
"Mike hunt" <mikeh...@lycos.com> wrote in message news:huednV0qeKUAj0ra...@ptd.net...
> Sometimes one must conclude you are slower than you appear. Does the term "Intellectual property," and why copyright laws protect
> that property, have any meaning to you? ;)
After all the world's thermonuclear weapons are used all at once, Intellectual property,
copyrights & patents won't have any meaning anymore.
suem...@gmail.com
> Sometimes one must conclude you are slower than you appear. Does the term "Intellectual
> property," and why copyright laws protect that property, have any meaning to
> you? ;)
>
>
> news:6dEBj.7332$hr3.1795@trnddc04...
>
>
>
> > Mike hunt wrote:
> >> Ya' think? Every manufacturer has a competitor just down the street.
>
> >>news:3sDBj.7326$hr3.6467@trnddc04...
> >>> Jeff wrote:
> >>>> suemis...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> Does anybody know what happened to fordcds.com where you used to be
> >>>>> able to download the workshop manuals? Is there another place since
> >>>>> that place doesn't seem to be working anymore?
> >>>> The CDs were probably copyrighted by Ford, so Ford protected its rights
> >>>> by getting the site taken down. You should be able to buy a Ford manual
> >>>> though.
>
> >>>> Jeff
> >>> Sorry, I meant to say you should be able to get one from the dealer
> >>> (although it may be printed rather than CD). Personally, I think that
> >>> every vehicle should come with a shop manual on a CD or the option to
> >>> download the manual, as well as a USB port and software for laptops, so
> >>> you can get all the info you want from the OBD II. But Ford owns the
> >>> copyright on the manual, and they have right to sell it for whatever
> >>> they want.
>
> >>> Jeff
>
> > What's your point? If the manufacturers are concerned about copying the
> > motors, they can just have a costumer copy a shop manual with a
> > photocopier. Or buy a competitor's car and take the engine apart.
>
>
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thanks for the ebay suggestion - i'll try it, but was hoping for the
free version!
Jim Warman
depends on what your comfort level is...
As an example... one of our yellow service DVDs went missing.... years
covered are 1996 to 2002.... manuals included are workshop, wiring diagrams
and power train/emission controls diagnosis... To replace this DVD.... $3000
CAD..... Anything that Helms is going to charge is going to look like a
bargain....
Once a month, I turn three red service DVDs into frisbees and drink
coasters.... These are the instructions we all receive for these.... some of
us have a higher regard for our integrity...
Tom
that you have to reclock your computer back 2-3 years for their disc to
work.
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Max Power
"Tom" <tjctra...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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my ebay disk is white, looks pretty cheesy
says technical information system
1999
TRUCK
no flaming hoops are required for install.
Jim Warman
there are more and more concerns with "pirate" and "counterfeit" products.
Since the early 80s, certain Pacific Rim countries have been exporting goods
that come in packages that look remarkably like brand name packaging....
close enough to fool anything less than a study of the labelling...
Couterfeiting, piracy and the underground economy are costing our society
untold millions (or even billions) of dollars every year....
At some point in time, we must realize that if we are not part of the
solution, then we must be part of.......
Ted Mittelstaedt
> Must be folks burning pirate copies in some manner... In all walks of
life,
> there are more and more concerns with "pirate" and "counterfeit" products.
> Since the early 80s, certain Pacific Rim countries have been exporting
goods
> that come in packages that look remarkably like brand name packaging....
> close enough to fool anything less than a study of the labelling...
>
> Couterfeiting, piracy and the underground economy are costing our society
> untold millions (or even billions) of dollars every year....
>
Yes they are, but pirating service manuals is a bit different. The
manufacturer
has already gotten paid for the R&D that went into creating the manual by
selling the device the manual covers. Unless that is, there's been a change
in
accounting laws and it's now acceptable to remove R&D costs from the
item the R&D was done for, and apply them to service documentation.
And we would see a lot less piracy from those Pacific Rim countries if our
own manufacturers quit outsourcing production to the Pacific Rim. The
real truth is that companies here save millions by handing over all the
instructions
to build their products to manufacturers in China - then scream about losing
millions when at the end of the day when those manufacturers have completed
all their production runs for the company here and simply continue running
the
same assembly line for another 8 hours and churn out another pile of devices
for the counterfiters. In the meantime, all the people who were working on
those lines here are out of a job and collecting welfare here, and the CEO's
of
those same companies here are collecting golden parachutes and windfall
bonuses for all the money they saved by outsourcing.
Economists say how great it is to outsource because then prices for our
consumers here drop - what good is that when the people who would
enjoy those lower prices can't do so because they have no job to do anymore
that pays them anything.
Ted
Shawn
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Ain't that the truth.
Mike hunt
like Japanese vehicles that are either imported of merely assembled in the
US of mostly imported parts, thus causing their OWN employers customers to
get laid off?
Why is it OK for the American consumer to buy from manufacturers who operate
in foreign countries that have lower labor costs, few environmental laws and
fewer government regulations with which to contend but NOT OK for American
manufactures to buy from the foreign manufactures, who operate in foreign
countries that have lower labor costs, few environmental laws and fewer
government regulations with which to contend, in order to compete and remain
in business and at least employ some Americans?
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tango
Mike, you think it might have something to do with these same
manufacturers going to suppliers outside the US back in the 60's and 70's
which started this trend.