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Dodge Intrepid 2.7L engine problems Replace with 3.2

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toyota1

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Dec 16, 2004, 6:27:59 PM12/16/04
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Anyone having problems with the dodge intrepid 2.7 L engine, I have a
cheaper and better solution for you. I own an automotive shop and we have
been installing the optional 3.2l engine with very successful results,
cheaper than a replacement 2.7l. If you have any questions or interest in
the 3.2 conversion, feel free to contact me via email.

maxpower

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Dec 16, 2004, 6:44:06 PM12/16/04
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Im just wondering what happens down the road when the vehicle fails a State
emissions program, If the labels/vin/engine and all that dont match, it wont
fly thru, not to say thats considered tampering (federal offence) And what
about the engine controller??? 2.7-3.2??? i belive there is a difference
Glenn Beasley
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Larry Crites

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Dec 17, 2004, 12:41:58 PM12/17/04
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With a name of "toyota1", I wouldn't trust this person's work on my Mopar.
My 2.7 has just under 96,000 miles on it. Still has a lot of power, and no
smoking, whatsoever. What's the problem?

Larry
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toyota1

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Dec 17, 2004, 3:00:43 PM12/17/04
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The emissions have not been a problem. Vehicles that have been tested have
passed. Also the 2.7l ecu will run the 3.2 engines without any problems.
State laws vary depending on the state, and there are certain processes in
some states that require you to register a vehicle as "rebuilt" in this
situation.

toyota1

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Dec 17, 2004, 3:10:32 PM12/17/04
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larry, the problem with the 2.7 is that the oil pickup and passages in the
cylinder heads are too small and it causes a large amount of sludge to
form, thus reducing the oil flow to the top end, and damaging timing chain
and valve train. as these are an interference engine, if the timing chain
breaks, pistons hit valves, and so on.. ive seen 2.7s with 40k miles on up
to 120k miles fail. it all depends on the maintenance of the vehicle. sorry
you feel that way about toyotas, but my truck with 200k miles and original
engine, etc, is much more impressive than my dodge intrepid 2.7 that
failed with 45k miles on it, and my dodge truck (used to have) that the
transmission failed at 70k, and both had had oil changes done every 4k
miles since new, trans fluid flush every 25k. it now has a 3.2 with almost
20k miles and is running perfectly.

maxpower

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Dec 17, 2004, 3:36:01 PM12/17/04
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Alot of that is due to using the wrong viscostiy oil, and not changing it
at the proper time, i havent seen alot of problems here at the shop except
for a few....and they were destroyed because the owners neglected them.
Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech

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maxpower

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Dec 17, 2004, 3:40:53 PM12/17/04
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O...im not refering to now, im talking about a few yrs down the road when
they fail, when the numbers dont match and the veci sticker doesnt jive and
maybe time for a waiver, or the inspector catches it, like i said, that is
considered Tampering. I bouhgt my wife a 2003 sebring with the
2.7............. 5w30 oil every 3k. i wont have a problem

Glenn Beasley
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maxpower

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Dec 17, 2004, 3:49:06 PM12/17/04
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Before the law was revised in 1990, it was only illegal for professional
mechanics to remove or disconnect emission control devices. There was
nothing to prevent a motorist from tampering with their own vehicles. That
loophole has since been plugged.

THINGS NOT TO DO

Any of the following may be considered emissions tampering and get you into
trouble:

a.. Removing the EGR valve or plugging its vacuum lines
b.. Removing or disconnecting the PCV valve
c.. Removing the stock air cleaner and heat riser duct plumbing
d.. Removing the catalytic converter
e.. Removing or disconnecting the air pump
f.. Removing or modifying the stock distributor vacuum advance/retard
g.. Altering the stock ignition advance mechanism or timing curve
h.. Replacing the stock distributor with an aftermarket unit that is not
emissions certified
i.. Modifying, removing or replacing the stock computer or PROM chip with
a non-certified component
j.. Blocking the heat riser duct under the intake manifold
k.. Knocking out the filler restrictor on the fuel tank inlet pipe
l.. Replacing the stock non-vented gas cap with a vented cap
m.. Removing or disconnecting the fuel vapor recovery canister
n.. Changing the idle mixture or stock carburetor jetting
o.. Removing or modifying the carburetor choke
p.. Modifying or replacing the carburetor accelerator pump with
non-certified components
q.. Installing an intake manifold or racing manifold that lacks provisions
for the stock EGR valve and/or a heat riser duct
r.. Installing a carburetor that lacks the stock emission hookups
s.. Installing non-certified fuel injectors
t.. Installing a long duration "racing" cam that is not
emissions-certified
u.. Installing exhaust headers that lack provisions for a heat riser
valve, an air cleaner preheat stove or fittings for an oxygen sensor (if
required)
v.. Installing valve covers with open breathers or no fittings for a PCV
valve
w.. Installing any induction, fuel or ignition system component that is
NOT emissions legal


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James C. Reeves

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Dec 17, 2004, 5:12:05 PM12/17/04
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5w30 Synthetic? Or, dino?

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toyota1

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Dec 17, 2004, 8:38:06 PM12/17/04
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THE 3.2 ENGINE USES ALL OF THE 2.7 EMISSION COMPONENTS AND IT OPERATES
EXACT SAME AS THE 2.7 WOULD HAVE. NO COMPONENTS IN THE EVAP SYSTEM,
CATALYTIC, EGR, ETC ARE REMOVED.

toyota1

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Dec 17, 2004, 8:39:32 PM12/17/04
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Most we have seen have been sluged badly, due to maintenance issues, but
the intrepid i own had its oil changed every 3000 miles since new, and the
timing chain failed at 45k still.

toyota1

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Dec 17, 2004, 9:01:47 PM12/17/04
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also, how is it considered tampering when none of the emissions components
are removed or compromised? would it not be the same "tampering" if you
were to remove a v6 from a 1981 monte carlo and replace with a 5.7l???
all you are doing is replacing the standard 2.7 with the optional
3.2l---90% of the parts except hoses, intake and radiator are
different......

maxpower

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Dec 18, 2004, 7:38:05 AM12/18/04
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wow. i havent even heard of a timing chain failure yet,

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maxpower

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Dec 18, 2004, 7:36:46 AM12/18/04
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Im not saying it is tampering, I was simply stating...but if you use a
different application PCM for another engine i would think that in the eyes
of EPA they may consider that tampering

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Larry Crites

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Dec 18, 2004, 12:52:15 PM12/18/04
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I don't have sludging problems. Maybe my oil, filter and maintenance
combinations work. I don't use Pennzoil. Here's one oil that creates sludge.
I've seen it sludge up rebuilt engines in no time. I just can't bring myself
to buy a foreign manufacturer's vehicle.

Larry
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toyota1

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Dec 18, 2004, 2:13:46 PM12/18/04
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Im surprised that you are a chrysler tech and havent seen any chains or
2.7s fail, the local chrysler dealer here says they do 3 to 4 per month--
timing chains or engine replacements due to sludge or lower end failures--
must not be too common yet in your area. I looked up intrepids on the local
auto trader and found 12 listed with blown 2.7l engines.

maxpower

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Dec 18, 2004, 4:17:48 PM12/18/04
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yup, being doing it for Chrysler for 26 yrs, You will find that different
zones have different problems, If i had to guess i would say there are more
of the problems you are talking about in the colder climate areas. and i was
still told that most of it was the improper viscosity oil and lack of
maintenance

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nospam.c...@sny.der.on.ca

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Dec 18, 2004, 11:17:33 PM12/18/04
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On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 10:52:15 -0700, "Larry Crites"
<larry...@bresnan.net> wrote:

>I don't have sludging problems. Maybe my oil, filter and maintenance
>combinations work. I don't use Pennzoil. Here's one oil that creates sludge.
>I've seen it sludge up rebuilt engines in no time. I just can't bring myself
>to buy a foreign manufacturer's vehicle.
>
>Larry
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For me, that "foreign manufacturer" builts Corollas only a few miles
from my home, and many people in my town make their living there.
Another major "foreign manufacturer" (Honda) builds vehicles just over
100km away in Aliston Ont - and there are a significant number of jobs
in our area supplying parts etc for that plant as well.

Then there is tha "German" company, that builds cars in Bramalea, also
within 100km of here, as well as in Windor, Belvedere Ind., Mexico,
and at least a dozen other places - the company formerly known as
Chrysler.

Larry Crites

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Dec 19, 2004, 1:44:25 PM12/19/04
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Yes, there are jobs here for "our" people, and their money comes back into
their community. But where do the corporate profits go that pays the big
officer's salaries? There's still a Pentastar in Highland Park. I know,
there is no "American" auto manufacturer anymore, with all the imported
parts, assembly across our border, etc. But, at least the assembly portion
is North American. Besides, I like Canada. Has lots of pretty areas. A lot
of the people are nice, too.

Larry
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toyota1

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Dec 23, 2004, 12:49:19 PM12/23/04
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The brand new toyota tacoma that i bought had a sticker on it that listed
what percent of the vehicle had been assembled here and what had been done
in japan-- it was 25% japan, 75% usa. there were 4-runners there that were
90% usa, so the "foreign" auto manufacturers are constructing or making
parts for overseas and assemblitng the vehicles here just as much as the
american automakers are-- + ford owns 2 "foreign" manufacturers, and
chrysler owns at least 1, and has for a long time, and chryslers real
headquarters are in Germany, just as Toyotas' headquarters are in japan==
last i new, dieter ziechte, ceo of chrysler, got a 17million dollar bonus
last year, and he lives in germany....

bigdan4712

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Dec 29, 2004, 12:23:23 AM12/29/04
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I just purchased a 98 Dodge Intrepid, and my engine blew up in it. It only
had 83k on it, and i pulled out of work only to hear major rattling and
smoking of the engine when i got home. And the sad thing was, I changed
the oil once, and i put over 3 quarts of oil back into it before the
engine blew up. Luckily, I had a warranty on it, but now my dealer
swindled me out of $500 and lied to me about the warranty company. Im in
litigations with him now. What a piece of dog turd. I never even got to
drive for about 2000 miles. Crap. Ill never buy a dodge again.

LOST IN SPACE

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Dec 29, 2004, 1:39:52 AM12/29/04
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It looks like you got a used car that someone beat the shit out of and
now are paying for it.So you really cant blame dodge for this.You just
picked a abused car.This happens to alot of people no matter what brand
the car is.

Dan C

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Dec 29, 2004, 11:51:20 AM12/29/04
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It's not a Dodge problem, you moron. Things like this happen because
you're stupid.

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Gene Poon

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Dec 29, 2004, 11:50:51 AM12/29/04
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bigdan4712 wrote:

The 2.7L engine is known to have a tendency to sludge up. Oil flow to
bearings and timing chain gets blocked and the expected problems happen.
This isn't the only engine that does it; the Toyota V6 in Camrys and
the Sienna minivan is also known to be a sludger. It's still a small
minority of the engines that suffer this fate, but more than one would
expect these days, when engines routinely go 200K-300K or more between
overhauls.

The problems are made worse by Severe Service operation, which in
reality covers just about EVERYBODY (take a look at the maintenance
schedule, which defines severe service; if your driving includes ANY ONE
of the conditions noted, that's severe service). Delaying oil changes
is a no-no with this engine, and full synthetic oil is said to eliminate
the problem since it hardly builds up any sludge. Engine people say
that if you have a 2.7L engine, change the oil immediately, use full
synthetic oil, and go by the Severe Service schedule.

It's altogether possible that the prior owner was one of those slobs who
never changes the oil in their cars.

bigdan4712

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Dec 29, 2004, 12:51:08 PM12/29/04
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Yes it is. Because dodge buys shitty parts and engines from mitsubishi in
japan, is reason why this car needs extreme maintenance schedules. You
shouldn't have to be so careful with a car. Thats my dad swears never buy
dodge after he owned a 75 charger. It was a piece of shit. it broke down
every month. id never buy dodge, and don't jump on dodges side, because i
know cars. im not a mopar moron. dodge = trash.

bigdan4712

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Dec 29, 2004, 12:52:37 PM12/29/04
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and also, dont think i put 3 quarts into engine when i changed the oil. i
put 5.5 quarts like it says, and i ended up putting 3 more quarts over the
time perioud that i had the car. moron.

bigdan4712

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Larry Crites

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'75 Charger? What did it look like, and what did it have in it?

Larry
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Larry Crites

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Posting the same twice? Who is the moron?

Larry
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Rooster200

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Dec 29, 2004, 1:39:33 PM12/29/04
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What is needed for the change over? What change over is needed to install a
3.5

Dan C

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Dec 29, 2004, 1:58:35 PM12/29/04
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 12:51:08 -0500, bigdan4712 wrote:

> Yes it is. Because dodge buys shitty parts and engines from mitsubishi in
> japan, is reason why this car needs extreme maintenance schedules. You
> shouldn't have to be so careful with a car.

OK, that proves beyond a doubt that you are indeed stupid.

> Thats my dad swears never buy dodge after he owned a 75 charger. It was
> a piece of shit. it broke down every month.

Sounds like the stupidity runs in the family. Do you or your dad know the
meaning of "scheduled maintenance"?

> id never buy dodge, and don't jump on dodges side, because i
> know cars. im not a mopar moron. dodge = trash.

OK, you're not a "mopar moron", you're just a "regular" MORON. Go buy a
Chevy and bother those people in their newsgroup. Stay the fuck out of
here, dipshit.

bigdan4712

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Dec 29, 2004, 5:29:25 PM12/29/04
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dont get anal with me pal. i didnt post it twice.

bigdan4712

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Dec 29, 2004, 5:51:07 PM12/29/04
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you want to explain to me how i am stupid? and ill gurantee you my dad
knows a hell of alot more about cars then you could wish you could know.
my maintenance schedule was proper, as a matter of fact, i had my oil
changed before the car even needed an oil change. and don't forget, i
owned this car for 2 and half months. i think your just a die hard dodge
fan, and you just absolutely LOVE to work on cars just like FORD people.
i don't see how i am a moron because it isnt my fault that the car was a
POS. how could you say i am a moron, when i took good care of the vehicle,
and checked the oil at every gas fill up and it just burned oil. how about
that for dodge? i put 3, count em, 3 quarts of oil back into the dodge over
a period of time because it burned it. i can pull up a whole list of people
i know that has more problems than they can count on the fingers with their
dodges. how does that make me a moron? because i am smarter than you are,
and buy chevrolets? how about my dad has been chevys for years, and we
have had no serious problems with them whatsoever other than door locks no
working. which is minimal compared engine damage and head gasket like
dodge. we have owned over 5 chevy astro vans, and they all had 300k miles
plus on them before we got rid of them. my parents last lumina (1992) ran
to 212k and we got rid of it because my mom was bitching about a new car.
we then bought another (1997) lumina, and it has 207k on it. i dont think
chevys are Pieces of shit either. im sorry you feel that way about me, but
i just proved you wrong. the only way that i would be a moron is because i
bought a dodge. oh, by the way, quit bitching.

Dan C

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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 17:51:07 -0500, bigdan4712 wrote:

> you want to explain to me how i am stupid? and ill gurantee you my dad
> knows a hell of alot more about cars then you could wish you could know.

OK, I'll explain to you why you are stupid. Because..... you come in here
saying "dodge's suck" with no real basis. You seem to have had ONE bad
experience with ONE Dodge. That doesn't make ALL Dodges suck. See? Do
you see now why you are stupid to say that? Also, you cannot possibly
"gurantee" that your dad knows more than me, because you absolutely do not
know how much I know. Get it?

> i think your just a die hard dodge fan, and you just absolutely LOVE to
> work on cars just like FORD people.

Nope, I'm just an average Dodge fan, I own 3 of them at the moment, and
love all 3. Haven't had one single problem with any of them. I've also
owned two others that I have sold (in perfect running condition). I don't
really like to work on cars, although I do occasionally.

> i don't see how i am a moron because it isnt my fault that the car was a
> POS. how could you say i am a moron, when i took good care of the

If it was a POS, why did you buy it? That makes you a moron. See?

> i can pull up a whole list of people i know that has more problems than
> they can count on the fingers with their dodges.

And I can produce a (probably larger) list of people I know that don't
have problems with their Dodges. What does that prove?

> im sorry you feel that way about me, but i just proved you wrong.

You did? You *proved* it? How?

> only way that i would be a moron is because i bought a dodge.

OK, so you do admit to being a moron, then. I mean, you bought a Dodge,
so according to YOU, you must be a moron. Is that right?

toyota1

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We havent done a 3.5 yet, but are changing them to 3.2L-- Im sure it is
possible to do a 3.5L, as for the most part they are the same as the 3.2,
except for displacement--as far as computer differences in the 3.5L, not
sure, but the 3.2 is the same as the 2.7... There are several minor things
required to do the changeover from a 2.7 to 3.2--- air intake piping,
dipstick tube, throttle and cruise cables, heater and radiator hoses, and
a power steering line. The right exhaust pipe has to be shortened and an
oil cooler added. other than that, the a/c lines have to be rerouted to
the top of the engine. We've been getting engines with all the
accessories, starter, alt, p/s, etc, already attached. Wiring is all the
same... its a matter of 3 plugs near the ecm.... they have gone very
smoothly so far and can be done in about 2 days-- if you have a lift and
the equipment. we just drop the cradle engine and all out the bottom of
the car, change everything over, and install it back in. The 2.7 ecu and
wiring will run the 3.2 no problem.

charles irby

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my dad bought a brand new CHEVROLET and it went 11 miles before it broke
down mark of excellence my ---

maxpower

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Dec 31, 2004, 7:53:43 AM12/31/04
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Not a mitsubishi engine

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What's a 75 Charger? He hasn't answered that!

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msc210

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Jan 10, 2005, 1:47:09 PM1/10/05
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I have done a 2.7 to a 3.2 engine swap. For a week or so it ran great then
it went in to the safe mode. where the check engine light flashes and
slows you down to a stop. I then unhooked the battery for about 15 min.
Hooked it back up and ran good for about a week then it did it again.
Someone told me the ecm was over loading and would have to install the 3.2
ecm. I bought the one the 3.2 engine was with. Put it on and nothing. So
I bought the bcm (body control module) put it on and nothing. Any help?

msc210

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slynn

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I am intrested in this conversion .Can you supply me with the details?
Thanks in advance. S.L.

toyota1

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msc, sounds like your 2.7 ecm or your icm-- (instrument panel cluster)- are
malfunctioning. We have had no problems like this thus far in the
conversions that we've done. This sounds like a problem that the dodge
dealer may have to take care of. If you take it there, make sure they
treat it as if it still has a 2.7l in it.

Gene575

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toyota1, what's your email, or pm me. I'm ready to swap in the 3.2.
Have a question or two.

Gene


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lawangel

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FYI - just got home from picking my '99 Dodge Intrepid up from the dealer
and guess what they said???? Needs a new engine: oxygen sensors soaked in
oil, damaged catalytic converter, piston seals, need I go on? I absolutely
love my car but now am faced with the dilemma of scrapping it or trying to
find an engine to go in it. Since I purchased the car the transmission
has been rebuilt, several sensors replaced, many smaller defects (power
window), and now this. And for all the negative folks listening, yeah,
the up-keep was flawless, papers to prove it. It is truly a shame that a
car with that much potential had to have such a horrible engine! Maybe
I'll keep it, or maybe I'll start car shopping. Any suggestions on a car
that won't break down before it's paid for? ~A~

maxpower

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Matchbox builds one
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Dan C

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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:00:59 -0500, maxpower wrote:

>> I'll keep it, or maybe I'll start car shopping. Any suggestions on a car
>> that won't break down before it's paid for? ~A~

> Matchbox builds one

Oh, that's real helpful, "maxpower". Did you think that up all by
yourself?

maxpower

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lawangel

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Jan 13, 2005, 6:33:41 PM1/13/05
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FYI - just got home from picking my '99 Dodge Intrepid up from the dealer
and guess what they said???? Needs a new engine: oxygen sensors soaked in
oil, damaged catalytic converter, piston seals, need I go on? I absolutely
love my car but now am faced with the dilemma of scrapping it or trying to
find an engine to go in it. Since I purchased the car the transmission
has been rebuilt, several sensors replaced, many smaller defects (power
window), and now this. And for all the negative folks listening, yeah,
the up-keep was flawless, papers to prove it. It is truly a shame that a
car with that much potential had to have such a horrible engine! Maybe

lawangel

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Yeah, I'm only looking for some "helpful" input...I don't think matchbox is
gonna do it for me.

maxpower

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Jan 13, 2005, 7:24:47 PM1/13/05
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<<<<Any suggestions on a car
<<<<that won't break down before it's paid for? ~A~

How can you answer a question like that? I see these intrepids in my dealer
every day, some have up to 300k on them with the 2.7, my brother owns one,
he has 98k, my wife has the sebring with the 2.7 she has 33k
If I suggested an intrepid what would you have said? I see all makes and
models with problems, from Ford to Chevy to Toyota and so on...you asked a
rhetorical question!!!

1 a : of, relating to, or concerned with rhetoric asked merely for effect
with no answer expected <a rhetorical question> (that is what i gave you)

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech

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Dan C

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Jan 13, 2005, 7:40:22 PM1/13/05
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:28:49 -0500, maxpower wrote:

>> > Matchbox builds one

>> Oh, that's real helpful, "maxpower". Did you think that up all by
>> yourself?

> theres my ole cry baby buddie

Your ignorance is exceeded only by your lack of writing ability. Did you
drop out of school at about the 4th grade?

Learn how to use capital letters, punctuation, and spelling so you don't
look like such a complete fool around here. Oh, and top posting is also
for ignorant n00bs.

aarcuda69062

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Jan 13, 2005, 8:57:39 PM1/13/05
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In article <pan.2005.01.14....@invalid.lan>,
Dan C <youmust...@invalid.lan> wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:28:49 -0500, maxpower wrote:
>
> >> > Matchbox builds one
>
> >> Oh, that's real helpful, "maxpower". Did you think that up all by
> >> yourself?
>
> > theres my ole cry baby buddie
>
> Your ignorance is exceeded only by your lack of writing ability. Did you
> drop out of school at about the 4th grade?
>
> Learn how to use capital letters, punctuation, and spelling so you don't
> look like such a complete fool around here. Oh, and top posting is also
> for ignorant n00bs.

Heh-heh...

Ya see that Beasley, I'm not the only one who thinks you're full
of shit.

trijoco

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Jan 13, 2005, 9:14:26 PM1/13/05
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I am interested in the 3.2 replacement. Can you please send any info.

Larry Crites

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Jan 14, 2005, 1:59:13 PM1/14/05
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Two cry baby buddies. Top post! Top post! Linux sucks, too. Mr. Beasley was
more helpful on my 99 Intrepid than some other morons around here who just
complain about others or make stoopid comments.

Larry
Behold Beware Believe

1968 Dodge Charger
1969 Dodge Super Bee
1970 Dodge Charger R/T
1970 Dodge Super Bee
1970 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible
1971 Plymouth 'cuda
1971 Plymouth Satellite (Law Enforcement)
1972 Dodge Charger
1979 Chrysler Newport (State Patrol)
1980 Dodge W150
1987 Dodge D100
1988 Dodge Caravan
1991 Dodge Monaco
1999 Dodge Intrepid

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Dan C

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Jan 14, 2005, 4:20:31 PM1/14/05
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:59:13 -0700, Larry Crites wrote:

> Two cry baby buddies. Top post! Top post! Linux sucks, too. Mr. Beasley was
> more helpful on my 99 Intrepid than some other morons around here who just
> complain about others or make stoopid comments.

You and maxpower are related? Both of you are ignorant morons.

lawangel

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Jan 15, 2005, 9:02:17 AM1/15/05
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I'm sorry, I thought this was a forum for discussing cars, not each others
short comings. Grow up boys & lets talk stay on topic.

~A~

maxpower

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Jan 15, 2005, 9:42:15 AM1/15/05
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Dont take things so serious, as I said, some questions just dont have an
answer

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lawangel

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Jan 15, 2005, 10:12:29 AM1/15/05
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Dan C

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Jan 15, 2005, 12:35:28 PM1/15/05
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:12:29 -0500, lawangel wrote:

> I'm sorry, I thought this was a forum for discussing cars, not each others
> short comings. Grow up boys & lets talk stay on topic.

Yeah. And quit posting the same thing twice, while you're at it.

toyota1

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Jan 15, 2005, 9:54:31 PM1/15/05
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Convert it to a 3.2, and you'll have a reliable car again...

toyota1

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Jan 15, 2005, 9:57:22 PM1/15/05
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The 3.2 conversion will cost you about $3500, (thats our price) and if you
do decide to scrap the car, let me know, we buy them!!

toyota1

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Jan 15, 2005, 10:01:29 PM1/15/05
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DreamChaserAJ

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Feb 4, 2005, 9:04:44 PM2/4/05
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Hello,

I am interested in learning more about this. My Intrepid's engine has
recently quit working (on my way to an oil change, ironically enough!).
I'm not one to lash out and blame others, whether it be the manufacturers
or previous owners, I am just looking for more inexpensive alternatives to
a repair rather than purchasing a new vehicle. I love my Intrepid and I
worked hard to earn enough funds to buy it, if it has a chance to be saved
I would like to do so. It is difficult to commute to college and work
depending on rides and borrowing cars. Also please include any risks
you've heard of with this conversion. Thank you.

DreamChaserAJ

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Feb 4, 2005, 9:16:17 PM2/4/05
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spawn33

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Feb 10, 2005, 2:40:26 PM2/10/05
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i have my 3.2l engine and my car at the mechanics but the guy doesnt have
a clue as to which parts he needs for the conversion can you help.

spawn33

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Feb 10, 2005, 2:45:09 PM2/10/05
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Dan C

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Feb 10, 2005, 4:24:37 PM2/10/05
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:45:09 -0500, spawn33 wrote:

> i have my 3.2l engine and my car at the mechanics but the guy doesnt have
> a clue as to which parts he needs for the conversion can you help.

Are you fucking kidding? Better find another "mechanic".

toyota1

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Feb 27, 2005, 8:03:27 PM2/27/05
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SEE EBAY.COM SEARCH DODGE INTREPID 2.7 THERES A CONVERSION KIT WITH ALL THE
PARTS NEEDED THERE.

MARKIM

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May 21, 2005, 11:57:46 PM5/21/05
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I AM CURRENTLY HAVING A PROBLEM WITH MY 2001 DODGE INTREPID. I HAVE A 2.7L
ENGINE AND WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE WITH A 3.2.

Dan C

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May 22, 2005, 10:33:25 AM5/22/05
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On Sat, 21 May 2005 23:57:46 -0400, MARKIM wrote:

> I AM CURRENTLY HAVING A PROBLEM WITH MY 2001 DODGE INTREPID.

WELL THAT SUCKS.

> I HAVE A 2.7L ENGINE AND WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE WITH A 3.2.

OK.

BADINTREPID

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Jul 25, 2005, 12:36:44 AM7/25/05
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"" wrote:
> Anyone having problems with the dodge intrepid 2.7 L engine, I
> have a
> cheaper and better solution for you. I own an automotive shop
> and we have
> been installing the optional 3.2l engine with very successful
> results,
> cheaper than a replacement 2.7l. If you have any questions or
> interest in
> the 3.2 conversion, feel free to contact me via email.

I AM READY TO CHANGE TO THE 3.2 ENGINE

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twasabe

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Oct 20, 2005, 10:36:27 AM10/20/05
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I'm getting ready to do the change over from the 2.7l to the 3.2l. I have
several questions that would be rather lengthy to post. Would you
consider e-mailing me your phone number and we could discuss?? Thanks!!

TBirdNutt

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Mar 13, 2006, 6:46:39 PM3/13/06
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Here's the best source on the internet for anything to do with the LH
platform vehicles (Intrepid, Concorde, LHS, and 300M, including the swap
from 2.7 to 3.2/3.5.
http://www.dodgeintrepid.net/forums/showthread.php?t=39677

Best wishes!

mccart...@gmail.com

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Apr 6, 2015, 2:20:52 PM4/6/15
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Hello My Name Its Justin, I HaVe The 01 Intrepid W 2.7.. Bought A ReplacemenT Motor That Ended Up Being The 3.2... What Else Is Needed For Successfull Swap...

Larry

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Apr 6, 2015, 5:58:48 PM4/6/15
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On 4/6/2015 12:20 PM, mccart...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hello My Name Its Justin, I HaVe The 01 Intrepid W 2.7.. Bought A ReplacemenT Motor That Ended Up Being The 3.2... What Else Is Needed For Successfull Swap...
>
There used to be a lot of information about replacing the 2.7 with a 3.2
at www.dodgeintrepid.net because of the earlier 2.7's oiling problems
and premature failure. There was a "kit" for this conversion. I haven't
been there for quite awhile since I sold my Intrepid years ago, but they
might still have that info. www.allpar.com had some info as well, I think.

bruceg...@gmail.com

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Jun 26, 2015, 4:03:34 PM6/26/15
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On Thursday, December 16, 2004 at 5:27:59 PM UTC-6, toyota1 wrote:
> Anyone having problems with the dodge intrepid 2.7 L engine, I have a
> cheaper and better solution for you. I own an automotive shop and we have
> been installing the optional 3.2l engine with very successful results,
> cheaper than a replacement 2.7l. If you have any questions or interest in
> the 3.2 conversion, feel free to contact me via email.

my name is bruce my number is 225-276-6501 I have a 2000 dodge intrepid with a 2.7 but I would like to have a 3.2 if you can help me call anytime

rkellys...@gmail.com

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On Thursday, December 16, 2004 at 5:27:59 PM UTC-6, toyota1 wrote:
> Anyone having problems with the dodge intrepid 2.7 L engine, I have a
> cheaper and better solution for you. I own an automotive shop and we have
> been installing the optional 3.2l engine with very successful results,
> cheaper than a replacement 2.7l. If you have any questions or interest in
> the 3.2 conversion, feel free to contact me via email.

what all is involved in changing from 2.7 to 3.2 in 2004 DODGE STRATUS

leo...@excite.com

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Oct 14, 2016, 8:55:23 AM10/14/16
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On Thursday, December 16, 2004 at 3:27:59 PM UTC-8, toyota1 wrote:
> Anyone having problems with the dodge intrepid 2.7 L engine, I have a
> cheaper and better solution for you. I own an automotive shop and we have
> been installing the optional 3.2l engine with very successful results,
> cheaper than a replacement 2.7l. If you have any questions or interest in
> the 3.2 conversion, feel free to contact me via email.

lnstalling the optional 3.2l engine will I have to change anything?

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Oct 14, 2016, 9:11:42 PM10/14/16
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Yes you will. There was a lot of information years ago -not sure
where to find it. It is NOT a simple bolt-in

jaker...@gmail.com

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Aug 13, 2017, 11:01:24 PM8/13/17
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sir, you give us hope.w e need some coaching on a 2004 2.7 to 3.2swap. we got the car with the actual install complete. with these difficulties 1.)the ABS ECU isn't hooked up.2.) it has a 3.2 module, but we do possess the original 2.7 ECM we have been told to stay with the 2.7 ECM.Is that your experiance? 3.) there is as large plug in at drivers front fender that we don't know where or, to what it attaches to. my
Phone is 719-243-2808 my name is Jake

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fwpa...@gmail.com

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lmuri...@gmail.com

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Jun 17, 2018, 12:54:40 PM6/17/18
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On Saturday, December 18, 2004 at 4:17:48 PM UTC-5, maxpower wrote:
> yup, being doing it for Chrysler for 26 yrs, You will find that different
> zones have different problems, If i had to guess i would say there are more
> of the problems you are talking about in the colder climate areas. and i was
> still told that most of it was the improper viscosity oil and lack of
> maintenance
> "toyota1" <compt...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:eafbda2110ebe9de...@localhost.talkaboutautos.com...
> > Im surprised that you are a chrysler tech and havent seen any chains or
> > 2.7s fail, the local chrysler dealer here says they do 3 to 4 per month--
> > timing chains or engine replacements due to sludge or lower end failures--
> > must not be too common yet in your area. I looked up intrepids on the
> local
> > auto trader and found 12 listed with blown 2.7l engines.
> >

Max power... I appreciate your years of working on the Dodges. Please Would appreciate your business email so I may pick your brain for advice on my Dodge Intrepid 2003 2.5 she runs good, but there are hiccups at times. Over 150,000 miles This is the second engine.
Lady Laura

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Sep 22, 2018, 7:58:08 PM9/22/18
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I have problem with my 2.7L v6 what can you do

jpg4vol...@gmail.com

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Jun 4, 2019, 8:46:04 AM6/4/19
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OK I'm game.
A couple of questions:
Is the 3.2 a better engine without the oil pressure issues of the 2.7?
What is different that will need to be changed to fit the 3.2 in?
Since I am a Volvo tech, (yeah Toyota makes great stuff) I need a good source of step by step to change this 2.7 out to 3.2 in a friend's car and an estimate of what I should charge.
Thanks
Jon Gurley

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Jun 24, 2020, 8:58:03 AM6/24/20
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It is sitting out of the house , how I go about that engine swap?
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