1955 Dodge Red Ram 270 Hemi V-8 w/standard transmission bellhousing-RARE-FOR SALE
Dwight D. Eisenhower
TBone
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"Dwight D. Eisenhower" <rotte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=004&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=140221677814&rd=1
Max Dodge
now, a rare early hemi for $1500 isn't a bad price. I doubt he'll get it on
"buy it now", but it may bid up to that.
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"TBone" <No...@nothere.com> wrote in message
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TBone
specific need for that engine I would agree but that engine is just above
scrap metal. Even he claimed that it is seized and will need a full rebuild
and the pictures also show what looks like a rats or mice nest in the bell
housing and the bell housing is cracked. Who knows just how much rust and
corrosion is inside of that engine. That engine in stock form is only good
for around 180 hp, big deal. When you really add it up, the engine at 1500,
then a full rebuild kit which I also saw on eBay for around 1500 more, then
at least another 500 or more in machine work and it will probably need a new
carb because if it is in as poor shape as the rest of that engine looks
like, it is probably a basket case as well. All in all, you are looking at
around $4000 to get that engine back in good running condition and that is a
lot of money for around 200 hp, rare or not.
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"Max Dodge" <max...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Nosey
been posting his same old sorry shit all around usenet for years. None of
his crap is ever worth looking at. If by accident he ever got something that
was actually valueable I hope he chokes on it. He also goes by
trippin28track and 66fourdoor and about 10 other names as well. Just do a
google groups search for his latest user name or email address and you'll
see the hundreds of newsgroups he's been smearing his shit around on. Better
yet, search google for "charlie nudo". Pick any hit at random and have a
good laugh. It's only a coincidence he posted something "Dodge" in this
group. If he was selling gold bricks for a nickle each I wouldn't buy any
from him. Stay away from this guy. Far, far away.
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"Nosey" <kfr...@removethis.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Especially someone who can't get the year correct. Her ehe has '55 and
online he has '53
> Ken
>
Max Dodge
siezed up. Rare stuff, which this hemi is regardless of year or condition,
seems to be be priced on the high side of stupid and people will pay it.
Two or three years ago, I purchased a shortblock 340 for $600, its going to
need a bunch before its ever started again as well. Its nowhere near as rare
as the hemi.
And while we're at it, what makes a Dodge or Plymouth worth a cool
$1,000,000 at Barrett Jackson? It sure as hell isn't the car, especially
when two years down the road, the prices have dropped to half that.
The seller in question may be a shyster, but if he gets a buyer and a deal
is struck, then thats what the scrap iron is worth whether we like it or
not.
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Max
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, he is not entitled to his own
facts." Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York
"TBone" <No...@nothere.com> wrote in message
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Roy
>I don't really care that the guy is an idiot, or that the motor is all but
>siezed up. Rare stuff, which this hemi is regardless of year or condition,
>seems to be be priced on the high side of stupid and people will pay it.
>
> Two or three years ago, I purchased a shortblock 340 for $600, its going
> to need a bunch before its ever started again as well. Its nowhere near as
> rare as the hemi.
>
> And while we're at it, what makes a Dodge or Plymouth worth a cool
> $1,000,000 at Barrett Jackson? It sure as hell isn't the car, especially
> when two years down the road, the prices have dropped to half that.
>
> The seller in question may be a shyster, but if he gets a buyer and a deal
> is struck, then thats what the scrap iron is worth whether we like it or
> not.
That is the truth. A buddy of mine has been doing a Studebaker into some
sort of street toy and has been looking for a 9" . Called this morning and
this guy has 2 one out of a late 50's and a newer one wants $350 a piece
for them. I told him to buy both, use the newer and sell the one from the
50's. Right person needs one for a #'s match restoration he will pay the
price.
TBone
>I don't really care that the guy is an idiot, or that the motor is all but
>siezed up. Rare stuff, which this hemi is regardless of year or condition,
>seems to be be priced on the high side of stupid and people will pay it.
LOL, really Max, I think that you reply just because you like to see
yourself argue. Just because it's rare doesn't make it valuable and there
is really nothing about that engine to make it so unless someone is
restoring a vehicle that needs that particular engine... Even as a rat rod
engine, it's low hp and that tiny 2bbl makes it worth next to nothing in
good shape, never mind the lead slug that it currently is. BTW, the motor
is not all but siezed up, IT IS siezed up. If you look at the pictures, you
can see that this motor has been sitting in the dirt and outside for some
tims and it is missing a few plugs. I can only imagine how bad those
cylinders are. BTW, he has now determined that this engine is really a 53
241 Hemi which means that it only puts out a wopping 140 HP. LOL, the 4 cyl
in my Nissan does better than that.
> Two or three years ago, I purchased a shortblock 340 for $600, its going
> to need a bunch before its ever started again as well. Its nowhere near as
> rare as the hemi.
It is not "the hemi" but a hemi and not a particularly good version of one
at that. We are not talking about the "426" here. The 340 OTOH, is a
highly desirable engine capable of putting out some serious HP so yes, it is
worth a few bucks and when put into the proper A or E body, can
significantly increase the value of the car.
>
> And while we're at it, what makes a Dodge or Plymouth worth a cool
> $1,000,000 at Barrett Jackson? It sure as hell isn't the car, especially
> when two years down the road, the prices have dropped to half that.
That's because the economy has taken a downturn and many of the people with
more bucks than brains don't have as many bucks to throw away anymore. Many
of these cars were rare (even when new), fully restored or in near perfect
condition HP vehicles of the muscle car era. This engine may be rare but is
neither HP or even in running condition. Take that HEMI convertable CUDA
that sold for $1,000,000 and replace it with one with a rusted out version
with a 225, 904 automatic, hard top and see if you still get the cool mil
after all, it is still a rare car.
>
> The seller in question may be a shyster, but if he gets a buyer and a deal
> is struck, then thats what the scrap iron is worth whether we like it or
> not.
I never said anything different and this goes back to what I said in my
first post that it really amazes me how much some people think complete
Tom Lawrence
> yourself argue.
Wow.
Just....
Wow.
mac davis
wrote:
You don't think that Max's point actually went over T's head, do ya Tom?
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
mac davis
Max Dodge
> "Max Dodge" <max...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>>I don't really care that the guy is an idiot, or that the motor is all but
>>siezed up. Rare stuff, which this hemi is regardless of year or condition,
>>seems to be be priced on the high side of stupid and people will pay it.
>
> LOL, really Max, I think that you reply just because you like to see
> yourself argue.
And your long winded reply is what?
> Just because it's rare doesn't make it valuable and there is really
> nothing about that engine to make it so unless someone is restoring a
> vehicle that needs that particular engine...
Or, if some schmuck really wants that engine, THEN, its got what ever value
the buyer and seller agree on. Get the point?
> Even as a rat rod engine, it's low hp and that tiny 2bbl makes it worth
> next to nothing in good shape, never mind the lead slug that it currently
> is. BTW, the motor
Who cares.....
> is not all but siezed up, IT IS siezed up. If you look at the pictures,
> you can see that this motor has been sitting in the dirt and outside for
> some tims and it is missing a few plugs. I can only imagine how bad those
So what?
> cylinders are. BTW, he has now determined that this engine is really a 53
> 241 Hemi which means that it only puts out a wopping 140 HP. LOL, the 4
> cyl in my Nissan does better than that.
Thats not the point.
> It is not "the hemi" but a hemi and not a particularly good version of one
> at that. We are not talking about the "426" here. The 340 OTOH, is a
> highly desirable engine capable of putting out some serious HP so yes, it
> is worth a few bucks and when put into the proper A or E body, can
> significantly increase the value of the car.
"the hemi", in lower case, does not refer to "The Hemi". Instead, its merely
a noun referred to as what it is, a hemi.
>> And while we're at it, what makes a Dodge or Plymouth worth a cool
>> $1,000,000 at Barrett Jackson? It sure as hell isn't the car, especially
>> when two years down the road, the prices have dropped to half that.
>
> That's because the economy has taken a downturn and many of the people
> with more bucks than brains don't have as many bucks to throw away
> anymore.
Newsflash, the cars dropped in value from the high price they commanded in
the late 80's, and again in the late 90's. This recent economic downturn has
nothing to do with it. Evidence of that can be had by looking at the prices
of other cars which are now going for the million dollar prices.
Many
> of these cars were rare (even when new), fully restored or in near perfect
> condition HP vehicles of the muscle car era. This engine may be rare but
> is neither HP or even in running condition. Take that HEMI convertable
> CUDA that sold for $1,000,000 and replace it with one with a rusted out
> version with a 225, 904 automatic, hard top and see if you still get the
> cool mil after all, it is still a rare car.
Who cares. All I see is that you clearly don't get the point, OR I think
that you reply just because you like to see yourself argue. Whichever.
>
>>
>> The seller in question may be a shyster, but if he gets a buyer and a
>> deal is struck, then thats what the scrap iron is worth whether we like
>> it or not.
>
> I never said anything different and this goes back to what I said in my
> first post that it really amazes me how much some people think complete
> crap is worth.
To someone, its not complete crap. And realistically, a hemi of that vintage
isn't crap, no matter how bad the condition.
Hope to hear from you soon,
Sincerely,
Max Dodge
Incredible, ain't it?
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"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, he is not entitled to his own
facts." Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York
"Tom Lawrence" <tlawr...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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TBone
>> Just because it's rare doesn't make it valuable and there is really
>> nothing about that engine to make it so unless someone is restoring a
>> vehicle that needs that particular engine...
>
> Or, if some schmuck really wants that engine, THEN, its got what ever
> value the buyer and seller agree on. Get the point?
LOL, no shit Sherlock. I do believe that was my origional point when I said
that I can't believe how much some people think crap is worth. While I was
referring to the seller, it goes for any buyer as well.
>
>
>> Even as a rat rod engine, it's low hp and that tiny 2bbl makes it worth
>> next to nothing in good shape, never mind the lead slug that it currently
>> is. BTW, the motor
>
> Who cares.....
Apparently, you do since you keep replying.
>
>> is not all but siezed up, IT IS siezed up. If you look at the pictures,
>> you can see that this motor has been sitting in the dirt and outside for
>> some tims and it is missing a few plugs. I can only imagine how bad
>> those
>
> So what?
Because it adds to the cost of making it usable which subtracts from its
worth and if it
is to far gone to fix it, then it is junk.
>
>> cylinders are. BTW, he has now determined that this engine is really a
>> 53 241 Hemi which means that it only puts out a wopping 140 HP. LOL, the
>> 4 cyl in my Nissan does better than that.
>
> Thats not the point.
Actually, yes it is or at least one of them anyway. Being rare alone
doesn't mean shit. There are plenty of objects in the world that are rare
and are so for a reason, and sometimes it's because they no longer serve any
valid purpose and nobody gives a shit about preserving them which makes them
both rare and worthless.
>
>> It is not "the hemi" but a hemi and not a particularly good version of
>> one at that. We are not talking about the "426" here. The 340 OTOH, is
>> a highly desirable engine capable of putting out some serious HP so yes,
>> it is worth a few bucks and when put into the proper A or E body, can
>> significantly increase the value of the car.
>
> "the hemi", in lower case, does not refer to "The Hemi". Instead, its
> merely a noun referred to as what it is, a hemi.
So what?
>
>>> And while we're at it, what makes a Dodge or Plymouth worth a cool
>>> $1,000,000 at Barrett Jackson? It sure as hell isn't the car, especially
>>> when two years down the road, the prices have dropped to half that.
>>
>> That's because the economy has taken a downturn and many of the people
>> with more bucks than brains don't have as many bucks to throw away
>> anymore.
>
> Newsflash, the cars dropped in value from the high price they commanded in
> the late 80's, and again in the late 90's. This recent economic downturn
> has nothing to do with it. Evidence of that can be had by looking at the
> prices of other cars which are now going for the million dollar prices.
LOL, for someone who claims to be so smart.....
>
> Many
>> of these cars were rare (even when new), fully restored or in near
>> perfect condition HP vehicles of the muscle car era. This engine may be
>> rare but is neither HP or even in running condition. Take that HEMI
>> convertable CUDA that sold for $1,000,000 and replace it with one with a
>> rusted out version with a 225, 904 automatic, hard top and see if you
>> still get the cool mil after all, it is still a rare car.
>
> Who cares. All I see is that you clearly don't get the point, OR I think
> that you reply just because you like to see yourself argue. Whichever.
Perhaps you might come up with something origional every now and then. The
one that doesn't seem to get the point is you and the point is that even
though and item is worth what someone is willing to pay for it, there has to
be something desirable about the item to make it worth anything and being
rare by itself is not one of them.
>
>>
>>>
>>> The seller in question may be a shyster, but if he gets a buyer and a
>>> deal is struck, then thats what the scrap iron is worth whether we like
>>> it or not.
>>
>> I never said anything different and this goes back to what I said in my
>> first post that it really amazes me how much some people think complete
>> crap is worth.
>
> To someone, its not complete crap. And realistically, a hemi of that
> vintage isn't crap, no matter how bad the condition.
If you believe so, then why don't you make an offer for it? Just because
something is rare does not make it valuable. What is so special about this
vintage of the hemi?
>
> Hope to hear from you soon,
I know that you do and that is why I replied. Sorry for the delay.