FREE (after $26 rebate) 5 Qts 5W-30 Full Synthetic Green Motor Oil

[Sent data:]

Save the Earth - Sacrifice Nothing
Grown in the USA!
Pretty Green NASCAR Camry with Soybeans!

http://www.getg.com/campaigns/request.php?cID=getg120214

[beekeep]

On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 21:23:21 -0800, Sent data: <Conne...@4455.KBs>
wrote:

I don't eat green eggs and ham Sam I am.

beekeep

[PeterD]

If you want to contact (or have your lawyer, or favorite LEO) contact,
the registrant is:

Registrant:
Marketiquette, Inc
PO Box 470443
Celebration, Florida 34747
United States

Registered through: Go Daddy
Domain Name: GETG.COM
Created on: 03-Jul-01
Expires on: 03-Jul-12
Last Updated on: 07-Jun-11

Administrative Contact:
Loch, Carol cal...@aol.com
Marketiquette, Inc
PO Box 470443
Celebration, Florida 34747
United States
3212144039 Fax -- 8153310931

Technical Contact:
Loch, Carol cal...@aol.com
Marketiquette, Inc
PO Box 470443
Celebration, Florida 34747
United States
3212144039 Fax -- 8153310931

And here is a web site dedicated to our spammer:

http://www.loopnet.com/profile/6219541341/Carol-Loch/

Looks like she's changed from real estate to oil...

--
I'm never going to grow up.

[Sent data:]

On 02/20/2012 04:46 AM, PeterD wrote:
> On 2/20/2012 12:23 AM, Sent data: wrote:
>> Save the Earth - Sacrifice Nothing
>> Grown in the USA!
>> Pretty Green NASCAR Camry with Soybeans!
>>
>> http://www.getg.com/campaigns/request.php?cID=getg120214
>
> If you want to contact (or have your lawyer, or favorite LEO) contact,
> the registrant is:

>...

> And here is a web site dedicated to our spammer:
>
> http://www.loopnet.com/profile/6219541341/Carol-Loch/
>
> Looks like she's changed from real estate to oil...

You want to whine about someone sharing details of a free motor oil
deal?? Is this group already far too busy already to handle another thread?
I'm the certifiCATED (not certified) A&P guy! I'm not Carol Loch. But if
I was her, it's still kind of sad for someone to gripe about a FREE
offer anyway.

[Sent data:]

But c'mon, it's a Camry!!! You know that the doors are going to burst
into flames as soon as a Dodge sideswipes it on the straight.

[Budd Cochran]

"Sent data:" <Conne...@4455.KBs> wrote in message
news:jhup1c$ocb$1...@speranza.aioe.org...

If it sounds to good to be true it probably is too good to be true, spammer.

Budd



--- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net/ - Complaints to ne...@netfront.net ---

[Sent data:]

On 02/20/2012 08:41 PM, Budd Cochran wrote:
>
> If it sounds to good to be true it probably is too good to be true, spammer.
>
> Budd

So astute, Buddd! No wonder this group looks to you for guidance.

NOBODY here should accept $26 of free synthetic oil. Because, as you
say, it sounds too good to be true.

[PeterD]

Hell, Carol, I'll give you all the free motor oil you want, all you have
to do is pay shipping and handling...

TANSTAAFL, but you are not bright enough to know that!

[Sent data:]

On 02/21/2012 04:09 AM, PeterD wrote:

> Hell, Carol, I'll give you all the free motor oil you want, all you have
> to do is pay shipping and handling...

Actually, you buy the oil at Wal*Mart. Print a rebate form, all by
yourself, on your computer. And you do need to invest in a postage stamp.

> TANSTAAFL, but you are not bright enough to know that!

That's right, so I usually get the lunch anyway.

[Budd Cochran]

"Sent data:" <Conne...@4455.KBs> wrote in message

news:jhv99t$sbm$1...@speranza.aioe.org...

The real reason they shouldn't is "identity theft" ... which is what many if
not most of these promos are meant to do.

BTW, thanks for the compliment.

[Sent packets:]

On 02/21/2012 09:01 PM, Budd Cochran wrote:
> "Sent data:"<Conne...@4455.KBs> wrote in message
> news:jhv99t$sbm$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
>> On 02/20/2012 08:41 PM, Budd Cochran wrote:
>>>
>>> If it sounds to good to be true it probably is too good to be true,
>>> spammer.
>>>
>>> Budd
>>
>> So astute, Buddd! No wonder this group looks to you for guidance.
>>
>> NOBODY here should accept $26 of free synthetic oil. Because, as you say,
>> it sounds too good to be true.
>
> The real reason they shouldn't is "identity theft" ... which is what many if
> not most of these promos are meant to do.

LOL! So the doddering a.a.d.t. bunch is paranoid of Mail-in Rebates.

Let's see the what rebate form asks for...
Name
Address
City
State
Zip
Email
Hmmmm... No SSN? No DOB? Mother's maiden name?

> BTW, thanks for the compliment.

Did I compliment you, or did I insult the rest?

> Budd
>
>
>
> --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net/ - Complaints to ne...@netfront.net ---

What really happened here is simple:
Overly anxious PeterD thought he saw a chance to whine about something,
and he grabbed it.

[NotMe]

"Sent data:" <Conne...@4455.KBs> wrote in message

news:ji0jhe$d5g$1...@speranza.aioe.org...

And you really and truely know 100% that the vendor will not find some
reason not to make good on the rebate?

[beekeep]

On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:32:46 -0800, Sent packets:
<10497@28800/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42.BIS> wrote:

>On 02/21/2012 09:01 PM, Budd Cochran wrote:
>> "Sent data:"<Conne...@4455.KBs> wrote in message
>> news:jhv99t$sbm$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
>>> On 02/20/2012 08:41 PM, Budd Cochran wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If it sounds to good to be true it probably is too good to be true,
>>>> spammer.
>>>>
>>>> Budd
>>>
>>> So astute, Buddd! No wonder this group looks to you for guidance.
>>>
>>> NOBODY here should accept $26 of free synthetic oil. Because, as you say,
>>> it sounds too good to be true.
>>
>> The real reason they shouldn't is "identity theft" ... which is what many if
>> not most of these promos are meant to do.
>
>LOL! So the doddering a.a.d.t. bunch is paranoid of Mail-in Rebates.
>
>Let's see the what rebate form asks for...
>Name
>Address
>City
>State
>Zip
>Email
>Hmmmm... No SSN? No DOB? Mother's maiden name?

With Budd we already know that information. SSN = #1, DOB = 30 B.C.,
MMN = Mary

[IGot2P]

On 2/21/2012 11:01 PM, Budd Cochran wrote:
> "Sent data:"<Conne...@4455.KBs> wrote in message
> news:jhv99t$sbm$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
>> On 02/20/2012 08:41 PM, Budd Cochran wrote:
>>>
>>> If it sounds to good to be true it probably is too good to be true,
>>> spammer.
>>>
>>> Budd
>>
>> So astute, Buddd! No wonder this group looks to you for guidance.
>>
>> NOBODY here should accept $26 of free synthetic oil. Because, as you say,
>> it sounds too good to be true.
>
> The real reason they shouldn't is "identity theft" ... which is what many if
> not most of these promos are meant to do.
>
> BTW, thanks for the compliment.
>
> Budd

Just what info that they ask for on the rebate form makes you think that
they have identity theft in mind? Oh, you didn't even bother to read the
form nor did you ever think that your bank account number is on every
check that you write. To me you sound somewhat paranoid for no valid reason.

Myself, I am going for it.

Don

[Sent packets:]

On 02/22/2012 12:02 AM, NotMe wrote:

> And you really and truely know 100% that the vendor will not find some
> reason not to make good on the rebate?

Rebates are always a gamble.

Read customer reviews of this particular offer here.

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/69298/walmart-stores-5qt.-goil-synthetic-motor-oil-5w30

[NotMe]

"Sent packets:" <10497@28800/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42.BIS> wrote in message
news:ji3cqh$k3v$1...@speranza.aioe.org...

> On 02/22/2012 12:02 AM, NotMe wrote:
>

>> And you really and truly know 100% that the vendor will not find some

>> reason not to make good on the rebate?
>
> Rebates are always a gamble.

And dealing with a company that uses spam as a marketing tool is not unlike
dealing with a street gambler on the Vegas Strip.

>
> Read customer reviews of this particular offer here.
>

Matters not as the offer requires the purchaser to cut off the product ID/
code. Since that will cause a serious leak it's not a viable option.

[Sent packets:]

I'm happy that you won't be getting any.

[Sent packets:]

On 02/22/2012 02:50 AM, beekeep wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:32:46 -0800, Sent packets:
> <10497@28800/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42.BIS> wrote:

...

>> Hmmmm... No SSN? No DOB? Mother's maiden name?
>
> With Budd we already know that information. SSN = #1, DOB = 30 B.C.,
> MMN = Mary

They have Budd's long-form Birth Certificate on display. It's in the
next aisle over from his Shroud.

[NotMe]

"Sent packets:"
<snip>

> I'm happy that you won't be getting any.

Your significant other has the same joy ... but that's a personal problem
you have to deal with.

[Sent packets:]

NotMe:

> "Sent packets:"
> <snip>
>
>> I'm happy that you won't be getting any.
>
> Your

So far we have...

1) One guy who really Gots2P and wants free oil.

2) One beekeeper who perhaps isn't a "green" guy, but would likely take
free oil anyway.

3) Three whiners - NotMe, Buddd, and Petey - who are traumatized over my
free oil post.

Not a good showing overall.

[NotMe]

"Sent packets:" <10497@28800/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42.BIS> wrote in message

news:ji4332$cm8$1...@speranza.aioe.org...

You don't like the show the micro-give-a-shit spam group is that way ===>>

BTW I did a quick block list check and your web site is on 49 of 143 (and
climbing) of them so it will not matter for much longer.

[Sent packets:]

NotMe:

> BTW I did a quick block list check and your web site is on 49 of 143 (and
> climbing) of them so it will not matter for much longer.

Idiot, I don't have a web site.

[Budd Cochran]

"IGot2P" <IGo...@crsales.com> wrote in message
news:ji33pd$qiv$1...@speranza.aioe.org...

Sure, go ahead, and be sure and let us know when you get ripped off, ok?

[Sent packets:]

The problem you have with the free oil offer is that I identified myself
as The Certificated A&P Guy! Yep, it's Beryl again, who left you
humiliated in your 'Dodge Ramcharger vacuum hose' thread a while ago,
and you still can't recover from it. Crybaby. Same with PeteyD and the
ex-NASA idiot NotMe, who unsuccessfully tried to prop you up.

[NotMe]

"Sent packets:" <10497@28800/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42.BIS> wrote in message

news:ji4acm$qp5$1...@speranza.aioe.org...

Not one that will do much good (anymore) you don't.

[Denny]

On Feb 23, 12:38 am, Sent packets: <10497@28800/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42.BIS>
wrote:

> On 02/22/2012 09:06 PM, Budd Cochran wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "IGot2P"<IGo...@crsales.com>  wrote in message
> >news:ji33pd$qiv$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
> >> On 2/21/2012 11:01 PM, Budd Cochran wrote:

> >>> "Sent data:"<Connect...@4455.KBs>   wrote in message

"Yep, it's Beryl again,"..... Every so often one of the old regulars
drop in and wonder what happened to the old group. This is a prime
example.

Denny

[beekeep]

My pet spider does.

beekeep

[PeterD]

On 2/23/2012 5:29 AM, Denny wrote:
> On Feb 23, 12:38 am, Sent packets:<10497@28800/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42.BIS>
> wrote:

>>> ...

>>
>> The problem you have with the free oil offer is that I identified myself
>> as The Certificated A&P Guy! Yep, it's Beryl again, who left you
>> humiliated in your 'Dodge Ramcharger vacuum hose' thread a while ago,
>> and you still can't recover from it. Crybaby. Same with PeteyD and the
>> ex-NASA idiot NotMe, who unsuccessfully tried to prop you up.
>
>
>
> "Yep, it's Beryl again,"..... Every so often one of the old regulars
> drop in and wonder what happened to the old group. This is a prime
> example.
>
> Denny

Careful, Beryl will start thinking he's one of "the old group"... <bg>

[PeterD]

1) one person who spams then comes back and tells everyone that this is
great! But since he's not getting any himself, that's fine.

[Sent packets:]

On 02/23/2012 02:29 AM, Denny wrote:

> "Yep, it's Beryl again,"..... Every so often one of the old regulars
> drop in and wonder what happened to the old group. This is a prime
> example.
>
> Denny

Why, thank you. Funny to think back, when I began playing with punkin,
and you guys were laughing "Looks like we got a new toy to play with,
don't break him!" Don't you think?

[Sent packets:]

I actually am. The old-old group, predating than the old group. Remember
Fitch? Pointed me to a good frontend shop right here in my own town.
Hogan Whatzizname, something like that, moved to Prescott and sold his
Cummins and faded away. I liked that guy. The old-old group was a useful
resource. But it evolved into an exclusive club, reserved for a few
swaggering assholes, who banded together to stomp on lesser newcomers.

[Sent packets:]

spiderkeep??

[Sent packets:]

Petey:

1) Wal*Mart's too far, so I'm going to miss it.

2) I provided a link to customer reviews, when ex-NASA idiot NotMe
needed a little extra support. Then he complained that it was a
Vegas-style hustle, and waaah! he wouldn't be able to peel the UPC off
the plastic bottle anyway.

3) I'm enjoying the spectacle.

[beekeep]

I've always said that spam made a good fish bait. No self respecting
catfish can resist it.

beekeep

[Sent packets:]

On 02/23/2012 02:31 PM, beekeep wrote:

> I've always said that spam made a good fish bait. No self respecting
> catfish can resist it.

You're in big trouble now, Buster. I don't eat Spam. What is it exactly,
head cheese? No, thanks, and I don't tolerate spammers spamming spam
here. I'm going to have my lawyer, or favorite LEO, contact the
authorities. Your web site is toast.

[Budd Cochran]

"Sent packets:" <10497@28800/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42.BIS> wrote in message

news:ji4jd0$can$1...@speranza.aioe.org...

As I remember it, you were as useful as a broken arm.

BTW, we got the Ramcharger fixed and your answer was

WRONG.

So, how brave is it to come back under a false I. D.?

Was there a reason for hiding who you are?

[Sent packets:]

On 02/23/2012 08:21 PM, Budd Cochran wrote:

> BTW, we got the Ramcharger fixed and your answer was
>
> WRONG.

Well, DUH! Taking the truck back to sea level was sort of a joke, ya' know?

[beekeep]

Aw come on, a little head chese with green oil dressing, whats not to
like?

And damn it, I'm not a LEO, I'm an AQUARIAN!

beekeep

[beekeep]

And don't forget Li'l Jay. He damn near got himself killed pissing
people off here. There's no telling how many people he talked into
setting their air bags off. He was a riot.

beekeep

[Denny]

> beekeep- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I forgot about Lil Jay. He was kinda opinionated at times.

Who was the trans expert from Illinois??? I forget his name..

Denny

[beekeep]

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:16:59 -0800 (PST), Denny <dmet...@woh.rr.com>
wrote:

>On Feb 24, 6:29=A0am, hone...@radix.net (beekeep) wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:34:05 -0800, Sent packets:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <10497@28800/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42.BIS> wrote:
>> >On 02/23/2012 03:47 AM, PeterD wrote:
>> >> On 2/23/2012 5:29 AM, Denny wrote:
>> >>> On Feb 23, 12:38 am, Sent packets:<10497@28800/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42.BIS>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>> ...
>>

>> >>>> The problem you have with the free oil offer is that I identified my=

>self
>> >>>> as The Certificated A&P Guy! Yep, it's Beryl again, who left you

>> >>>> humiliated in your 'Dodge Ramcharger vacuum hose' thread a while ago=
>,
>> >>>> and you still can't recover from it. Crybaby. Same with PeteyD and t=

>he
>> >>>> ex-NASA idiot NotMe, who unsuccessfully tried to prop you up.
>>
>> >>> "Yep, it's Beryl again,"..... Every so often one of the old regulars
>> >>> drop in and wonder what happened to the old group. This is a prime
>> >>> example.
>>
>> >>> Denny
>>
>> >> Careful, Beryl will start thinking he's one of "the old group"... <bg>
>>
>> >I actually am. The old-old group, predating than the old group. Remember
>> >Fitch? Pointed me to a good frontend shop right here in my own town.
>> >Hogan Whatzizname, something like that, moved to Prescott and sold his
>> >Cummins and faded away. I liked that guy. The old-old group was a useful
>> >resource. But it evolved into an exclusive club, reserved for a few
>> >swaggering assholes, who banded together to stomp on lesser newcomers.
>>

>> And don't forget Li'l Jay. =A0He damn near got himself killed pissing

>> people off here. There's no telling how many people he talked into

>> setting their air bags off. =A0 He was a riot.

>>
>> beekeep- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>I forgot about Lil Jay. He was kinda opinionated at times.
>
>Who was the trans expert from Illinois??? I forget his name..
>
>Denny

Gary the Grease Monkey! Glaziner or something was his last name. In
all fairness he did know trannies.

beekeep

[Budd Cochran]

"Sent packets:" <10497@28800/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42.BIS> wrote in message

news:ji75tu$gti$1...@speranza.aioe.org...

And that's your problem ... not caring whether a person has a need for good
info, which I did, or not and then playing your childish games.

That's the kind of stuff that gets people hurt.

[beekeep]

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 23:23:35 -0700, "Budd Cochran" <mr_...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>"Sent packets:" <10497@28800/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42.BIS> wrote in message
>news:ji75tu$gti$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
>> On 02/23/2012 08:21 PM, Budd Cochran wrote:
>>
>>> BTW, we got the Ramcharger fixed and your answer was
>>>
>>> WRONG.
>>
>> Well, DUH! Taking the truck back to sea level was sort of a joke, ya'
>> know?
>
>And that's your problem ... not caring whether a person has a need for good
>info, which I did, or not and then playing your childish games.
>
>That's the kind of stuff that gets people hurt.
>
>Budd
>

Driving at sea level is OK. It's when you drive BELOW sea level that
you get hurt.

beekeep

[NapalmHeart]

--
"Though liberals do a great deal of talking about hearing other
points of view, it sometimes shocks them to learn that there are
other points of view."
William F. Buckley, Jr. - Up From Liberalism
"beekeep" <hon...@radix.net> wrote in message
news:4f48cd28....@usenet.radix.net...

Unless you're in Death Valley! ;*)

[Received packets:]

On 02/24/2012 10:23 PM, Budd Cochran wrote:
> "Sent packets:"<10497@28800/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42.BIS> wrote in message
> news:ji75tu$gti$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
>> On 02/23/2012 08:21 PM, Budd Cochran wrote:
>>
>>> BTW, we got the Ramcharger fixed and your answer was
>>>
>>> WRONG.
>>
>> Well, DUH! Taking the truck back to sea level was sort of a joke, ya'
>> know?
>
> And that's your problem ... not caring whether a person has a need for good
> info, which I did, or not and then playing your childish games.
>
> That's the kind of stuff that gets people hurt.

Wait a minute... How do you know that my answer was wrong? You're in
Colorado at 9000 feet. You took the truck to sea level and found out
that the heater control still didn't work?

>
> Budd

[Received packets:]

On 02/24/2012 04:37 PM, beekeep wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:16:59 -0800 (PST), Denny<dmet...@woh.rr.com>

...

>> Who was the trans expert from Illinois??? I forget his name..
>>
>> Denny
>
> Gary the Grease Monkey! Glaziner or something was his last name. In
> all fairness he did know trannies.
>
> beekeep

Glaenzer. Last time I saw Gary appear, he announced a product that he
was selling - a bracket, adapter, or somesuch thing that he apparently
developed. And then he was gone again. PeteyD would have been in hysterics.

[NotMe]

"NapalmHeart" <olsonfa...@iserv.net> wrote in message
news:jiarg8$uas$1...@dont-email.me...

Or New Orleans or the Netherlands.

[Budd Cochran]

"beekeep" <hon...@radix.net> wrote in message
news:4f48cd28....@usenet.radix.net...

I don't know ... how long is your snorkel?



And how big is your scuba tank?

[Budd Cochran]

"Received packets:" <445ARQ/V34/LA...@V42.BIS> wrote in message
news:jib688$u5q$1...@speranza.aioe.org...

Didn't have to, mr. i'm hiding behind another screen-name.

Engine's make vacuum, unless they are a diesel, independent of ambient air
pressures.

That the part you couldn't grasp and the part that made your answers WRONG!

[RainBird]

On 02/25/2012 09:04 PM, Budd Cochran wrote:

>
> Engine's make vacuum, unless they are a diesel, independent of ambient air
> pressures.
>
> That the part you couldn't grasp and the part that made your answers WRONG!

Sorry Budlette, but you're messed up.

Vacuum is not independent of ambient air pressure. It's probably best to
forget the term "vacuum" and think "differential pressure" instead,
because vacuum doesn't power anything. It can't. Ambient air pressure
does the work. That's why I suggested you move the truck to sea level,
where air pressure is greater. A ridiculous thing to do and, depending
on the failure mode of the system, it may have worked.

[RainBird]

On 02/25/2012 09:00 PM, Budd Cochran wrote:
>
> I don't know ... how long is your snorkel?

Gee whiz, Buddd, want to know how long my snorkel is too?

[Budd Cochran]

"RainBird" <pla...@grassyknoll.org> wrote in message
news:jichol$nsb$1...@speranza.aioe.org...

What's this? Afraid to use your real name?

Then explain how an engine produces the same manifold vacuum at 8500' as it
does at 5000'.

Come on, overwork that lonely brain cell of yours.

[RainBird]

On 02/26/2012 09:28 PM, Budd Cochran wrote:
> "RainBird"<pla...@grassyknoll.org> wrote in message
> news:jichol$nsb$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
>> On 02/25/2012 09:04 PM, Budd Cochran wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Engine's make vacuum, unless they are a diesel, independent of ambient
>>> air
>>> pressures.
>>>
>>> That the part you couldn't grasp and the part that made your answers
>>> WRONG!
>>
>> Sorry Budlette, but you're messed up.
>>
>> Vacuum is not independent of ambient air pressure. It's probably best to
>> forget the term "vacuum" and think "differential pressure" instead,
>> because vacuum doesn't power anything. It can't. Ambient air pressure does
>> the work. That's why I suggested you move the truck to sea level, where
>> air pressure is greater. A ridiculous thing to do and, depending on the
>> failure mode of the system, it may have worked.
>
> What's this? Afraid to use your real name?
>
> Then explain how an engine produces the same manifold vacuum at 8500' as it
> does at 5000'.

It doesn't. Explain how an engine can produce a large pressure drop at
sea level, and the same large pressure drop at the edge of space.
How is your "vacuum" powered heater control going to work there? Sort
of... not at all.

That's why I asked NotMe (airplane owner and ex-NASA instrument
specialist idiot who didn't have a clue) the questions about aircraft
gyro instruments and vacuum pumps vs. positive pressure pumps, at low
and high altitudes. A vacuum pump isn't going to do anything in a
near-vacuum! At some lofty altitude, you have to give up sucking against
a vacuum, and start blowing instead to produce positive pressure on the
other side of the instrument.

> Come on, overwork that lonely brain cell of yours.

It's okay, I only need to use one cell.

[NotMe]

"RainBird" <situ...@grassyknoll.org> wrote in message
news:jif81t$iik$1...@speranza.aioe.org...

Ok hot shot. How does the gyro system work in the Hubble Space Telescope?
Suck or blow?

[RainBird]

NotMe:

> Ok hot shot. How does the gyro system work in the Hubble Space Telescope?
> Suck or blow?

LOL! Let me guess... It sucks? It blows? It's electrically powered?
Rubber band?

[Budd Cochran]

"RainBird" <situ...@grassyknoll.org> wrote in message
news:jif81t$iik$1...@speranza.aioe.org...

If there's a "vacuum' at that "lofty altitude" what are you going to blow
(compress)?

And, since we got the heater fixed and it works just as fine at 8500 feet as
it does at 5000 then your theory is not worth the brain cell that puked it
up.

Of course, you used only one brain cell ... it's not hard to pick one when
that's all you've got.

[RainBird]

Budd:
> "RainBird"<situ...@grassyknoll.org> wrote...

>
> If there's a "vacuum' at that "lofty altitude" what are you going to blow
> (compress)?

Air. There isn't a total vacuum, you're going to pressurize whatever air
there is. I asked about "flight levels", which begin where air pressure
is about half what it is at sea level. Pressure altimeters are also less
accurate at flight levels, which is why pilots fly at flight levels, and
not altitudes MSL (above mean sea level). Flight Level 180 is a pressure
altitude, where pressure is what it would be, in a standard atmosphere,
at 18,000' MSL, but FL180 doesn't mean that you're actually at 18,000'.

> And, since we got the heater fixed and it works just as fine at 8500 feet as
> it does at 5000 then your theory is not worth the brain cell that puked it
> up.

Aviation doesn't care about how you fixed the heater.

> Of course, you used only one brain cell ... it's not hard to pick one when
> that's all you've got.

But you still have to round up enough of yours to match it.

[RainBird]

Budd:

> And, since we got the heater fixed and it works just as fine at 8500 feet as
> it does at 5000 then your theory is not worth the brain cell that puked it
> up.

You're so dimwitted.

The heater trouble was probably a "vacuum-powered" blend door that
wasn't moving, right? Was it due to a vacuum leak? Do you really think
that vacuum can leak?

When a piston engine runs, does low crankcase pressure suck the piston
down in the cylinder? Not quite.

When you shoot a gun, does low atmospheric pressure suck the bullet out
of the barrel? Not.

Does your vacuum cleaner really suck in dirt? Nope, the atmosphere
pushes dirt into a low pressure area.

In all cases, the force comes from the high-pressure side. Your heater
failure undoubtedly would have been apparent earlier at 15000 feet, then
10,000 feet, 5000 feet, until it wouldn't have worked any more even at
sea level.