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Jim

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Sep 5, 2000, 3:42:42 PM9/5/00
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I have a 97 RAM 1500 5.9L. I was thinking about getting one of those ram
air hoods that have the functional scoop. Has anyone had any experience
with these? They look cool but I'm wondering if the fuctionality of the ram
air actually make a noticeable improvement. They sell the hood and some
other cool parts at http://www.truck-max.com/


JimmyJoeRussBob

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Sep 5, 2000, 4:22:46 PM9/5/00
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>ram air hoods that have the functional scoop.

>They look cool but I'm wondering if the fuctionality of the ram air actually
make a noticeable improvement.

Improvement in ????


As Smokey Yunick said "The price of progress is trouble and as the monkey took
a whiz into the cash register drawer, it's going to run tnto money."

Jim

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Sep 5, 2000, 3:52:47 PM9/5/00
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performance...


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Andrew Fischer

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Sep 5, 2000, 4:42:24 PM9/5/00
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If you are interested in performance, get the K&N kit instead. Hundreds
less and you get to keep the factory hood too.


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JimmyJoeRussBob

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Sep 5, 2000, 4:46:30 PM9/5/00
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>performance...
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If you seal the air cleaner to the hood, you could expect about 2-3 tenths and
1 to 1.5 mph gain in a quarter mile drag race.
Other wise, it's all looks

RamchargerCentral.Com

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Sep 5, 2000, 4:52:19 PM9/5/00
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> If you are interested in performance, get the K&N kit instead. Hundreds
> less and you get to keep the factory hood too.

But then you don't get the cool look of the hood : )
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Sean in Canada

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Sep 5, 2000, 7:34:44 PM9/5/00
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You're not totally correct JJRB.

I put a Ram Air hood on with a sealed Air intake.

It works wonders and I got more than 4 mph and .881 sec in the 1/4. But I also
have a bigger bore TB on her to.

wiley1

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Sep 5, 2000, 9:20:27 PM9/5/00
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WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU SMOKIN???????

Dude, save your money and DON'T get the k&n. Please do a dejanews search on it and you
will have millions of posts concerning this very topic. Also read the AADT Web site,
under the FAQs page.

Andrew Fischer wrote:

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men who want crops without plowing up the ground.
They want rain without thunder and lightening.
They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters.


Roy

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Sep 5, 2000, 10:00:01 PM9/5/00
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Why am I NOT surprised that you recommended a K$N??
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Roy
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Roy

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Sep 5, 2000, 10:19:34 PM9/5/00
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I've been thinking about one for my 2K 2500 V10. Been looking at a Harwood.
I put a ram air set up on my Impala SS a couple of months ago and was trying
to figure out how to get a like set up on the truck. I guess you arrived at
the same place I did. There is too much plumbing required, with too many
bends, and too much heat soak to realize any benefit.
I figure that each hood scoop application is different with regard how much
performance gain is realized. A couple of people have mentioned a couple of
tenths and a few mph in the 1/4. Hell, in years past I have chased a couple
of tenths through half a season and spent a hell of a lot more than the
price of a hood to pick up a couple of tenths, so the return is pretty good
imho. But on a truck those figures can change, I'd love to see some wind
tunnel test results on a stock Ram pick up just to see how much air can be
scavenged from the cowl.

As for the K$N that was suggested, they are unproven claim's Save your money
for the hood.
Please let me know what you end up doing.
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Roy

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wiley1

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Sep 5, 2000, 11:03:25 PM9/5/00
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Well Roy, the only thing that I can say is if you don't like it, ignore it! K!

Roy wrote:

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Roy

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Sep 5, 2000, 11:30:52 PM9/5/00
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What are you talking about?
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Roy
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RedNeck from Hell

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Sep 6, 2000, 2:25:30 AM9/6/00
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>Why am I NOT surprised that you recommended a K$N??
>Later,
>Roy

Guess he's been watching the K&N commercials again about "any vehicle being a
performance vehicle with a K&N"
LOL!!!!!
Crock of shit

Don't be "Gored" by Al's Bull
Old age and treachery will overcome youth and enthusiasm
Happiness is driving an ass kicking big block Mopar

RedNeck from Hell

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Sep 6, 2000, 2:27:54 AM9/6/00
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> A couple of people have mentioned a couple of
>tenths and a few mph in the 1/4. Hell, in years past I have chased a couple
>of tenths through half a season and spent a hell of a lot more than the
>price of a hood to pick up a couple of tenths,

LOL, yep, in some classes guys would kill for a couple of thousandths let alone
hundreths or God forbid, TENTHS!!!!

Roy

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Sep 6, 2000, 9:51:13 AM9/6/00
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No shit, that's what I mean. I wonder if some of these folks have ever
played seriously on the asphalt aisle. I have to confess it's been a few
years for me. Does the B M/P class still exist ? Seans improvement is more
in line with what I'd expect to see, more mph. I've got to get off my ass
and get going on this hood deal. Been messing around with the SS way too
much. Speaking of the SS, here's one for ya. They egr went south,spit out a
code. I reset it and it has yet to return. That was a week and a half ago.
So no hot air mixing in, wot seems better and the 'putor hasn't bitched
again. Wonder if the same would happen with the truck? every bit helps.
Mike, need an answer here.
Later,
Roy
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Andrew Fischer

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Sep 6, 2000, 1:31:09 PM9/6/00
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Whoops I left out my third sentence: Take the hundreds you saved and spend
it on a computer upgrade.

Original poster didn't say he was drag racing. That's a different story.

Roy

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Sep 6, 2000, 2:13:35 PM9/6/00
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Original poster said he wondered about the functionality of the hood and if
ram air made an noticeable improvement. In another of his responses he
referred to performance. K$N does not provide any improvement in performance
that has been PROVEN that I am aware of. But I guess the decals are fast.

Later,
Roy
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RedNeck from Hell

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Sep 6, 2000, 8:10:48 PM9/6/00
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>. I have to confess it's been a few
>years for me. Does the B M/P class still exist ?

All of those classes were "reinvented" by the NHRA quite a number of years ago.
Maybe 15? into what is now Competition Eliminator. Still based on cubic
inches to weight. Also number of cylinders enters into what class a car ends
up in. They run off the national index, no breakout with the 5/10 tree. Trans
brakes allowed no other electronics. If they run more than 1/2 a second under
the index on a winning run, they are "CIC'd meaning their index is adjusted 5
hundreths for the rest of the event each time they go .1/2 a second under.
There are guys with 304 inch Mopar engines in 1800 lbs cars running 7.50 at
180, one of those guys also has a 340 inch Mopar in a dragster that weighs
about the same. It runs in the high 6's

Roy

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Sep 6, 2000, 10:47:24 PM9/6/00
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Okay, so now I feel as old a Budd, well not that old. Hey! where has he
been? haven't seen anything from him in a few days. Anyway after all the bs
with changing sanctioning bodies, and constant rule changes, I lost interest
and sort of took it to the street, where there are no rules. Then started to
acknowledge some responsibilities and parked the toy's. Finally figured
roundy round was a bit more fun and have been doing a little messing around
there when I have the time which hasn't been lately.

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Roy
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RedNeck from Hell

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Sep 7, 2000, 8:13:43 PM9/7/00
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Roy,
NHRA is running at Englishtown, a rained out national event this coming
weekend, Saturday I think.
You should go to one of those to see where things are these days in the world
of drag racing.
Take Maxx with you so he can see his "theories" in operation!!! :)

Roy

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Sep 8, 2000, 12:34:33 AM9/8/00
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I bumped into a fella I knew years ago who was into drag racing in a very
big way back then. Turns out he still is, has a bit to do with a funny car.
I should probably hook up with him and see if I can bum a ride, he can
reeducate me on they way down. He goes to all the national meets that the
car is at.. You might remember him from years gone by. Does Tasca Ford ring
familiar?.

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Roy
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Budd Cochran

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Sep 8, 2000, 12:37:14 AM9/8/00
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The only thing I've found anywhere is that a K$N filter WITH A COLD AIR
PACKAGE ( caps for emphasis only) can produce up to about a 9.4 hp increase.
( sources: Truckin' magazine and Mopar Muscle magazine)

There is no published certifiable evidence that just a K$N filter in the
ambient temperature air under the hood gives ANY increase in power.


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Roy

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Sep 8, 2000, 1:09:34 AM9/8/00
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I'd really like to know how that figure was arrived at.
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Roy
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RedNeck from Hell

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Sep 8, 2000, 2:31:25 AM9/8/00
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. You might remember him from years gone by. Does Tasca Ford ring
>familiar?.
Yes, I do remember a Mustang with that on it.
Didn't Hubert? Platt drive it?
Heck yes, go have some fun!!!!

Roy

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Sep 8, 2000, 10:24:06 AM9/8/00
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No, I think Platt was from the south somewhere. Lawton drove the Tasca car,
sadly he died a short time ago from cancer. The fella I mentioned is Bob
Tasca sr. His kids run the dealerships for the most part. He spends most of
his time now out with the car. Take a look at Force's car, you'll find Tasca
Ford somewhere on it. As an aside to the racing, he breeds some really
beautiful,super tempered German Sheperds.
Your right though, I should drive over to his place and find out what his
schedule is. Englishtown won't work, wedding's for the next two weekend's.
Sounds like an excuse for a road trip.

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Roy
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RedNeck from Hell

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Sep 8, 2000, 11:11:30 AM9/8/00
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Posted just before reading this one.
Tasca Ford is in Rhode Island?
I remember the name Lawton.
Check out NHRA dot com for schedule.
maybe in Reading, PA after the wedding's
Enjoy the weddings!

Roy

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Sep 8, 2000, 11:32:06 AM9/8/00
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Yup, He has a couple of dealerships there. On the MA RI state line.
Reading might be doable.
Later,
Roy

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Chuck

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Sep 8, 2000, 1:52:05 PM9/8/00
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> Tasca Ford is in Rhode Island?

Tasca's is now in Mass., but will soon move to Cranston, RI (where I live).
They have been doing ground work for some time and aren't expected to open
in RI until next spring.

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Roy

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Sep 8, 2000, 2:19:25 PM9/8/00
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Ah, Chuck you are incorrect. Tasca Ford is located on RT. 44, in East
Providence, RI. Here's the phone number 1-401-435-3884. Give'em a call and
ask them where they are.

You might be thinking of the Linc/Merc dealership that is located 2 miles
north just over the line in MA.

Later,
Roy


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Chuck

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Sep 8, 2000, 5:26:37 PM9/8/00
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Yep, you're probably right as I don't pay that much attention to that side
of the bay. They are planning on moving over here though.

Chuck

Roy

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Sep 8, 2000, 5:55:27 PM9/8/00
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I was talking to sr. about the move some time ago, he was lamenting that it
was taking so long. As I understand both dealerships are going. With his
background, the service department is top shelf, late night hours, no
bullshitting around. Wish he sold Dodge trucks. I guess with all the
controversy surrounding the Explorer he wish's he sold Dodge's too.

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Roy
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Budd Cochran

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Sep 9, 2000, 12:37:34 AM9/9/00
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On K$N's dyno, of course.

Never would they let a non-biased, independent dyno test be run, it's
destroy their image. . . .

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Roy

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Sep 9, 2000, 8:26:34 AM9/9/00
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The question that must be asked is how did they arrive at those figures from
a dyno that is stationary? It is a RAM AIR!!! If the car ain't moving there
is air velocity thus no effect. Hell the velocity changes as speed
increases.

This friggin' company should be dragged into court for misrepresentation
based on their misleading advertisement on horsepower gains imho.

Later,
Roy
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Roy

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Sep 9, 2000, 8:54:25 AM9/9/00
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Sorry, should have said NO VELOCITY if the car ain't moving.
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Roy

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