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Jim Dyer

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Oct 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/28/98
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I own a 1998 Ram 1500 with the 5.9L engine with 15K miles. I have recently
had a bad problem of engine knocking during acceleration, especially on the
highway. The dealer told me that the problem has been occuring on a few
other 5.9L engines and that Chrysler has recommended a higher octane gas.
Has anyone else heard of this? I also have a problem of losing oil for the
past week. When i checked the spark plugs on my engine, the two cylinders
at the back of the engine showed heavy black deposits while the other six
plugs looked very good. I also occasionally get black or very thick white
smoke coming from the tailpipe when revving the engine in park. Any
suggestions of what could be causing this or any one experiencing the same
problems?

Bryon Kass

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Oct 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/28/98
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Sounds like a rich mixture. The black deposits that are dry indicate
too much gas. First replace those two plugs. If that engine is
multiport fuel injection suggest switching those injectors to see if
the other plugs exibit the same problems. If the dealer does not
repair it under warrantee have it emmissions checked. IF it fails
they are responsible to repair it under the emmissions warrantee.
If it passes try a good injector cleaner and mid grade gas.
Bryon Kass
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Oct 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/28/98
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On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:54:20 -0500, Jim Dyer wrote: +>I own a 1998 Ram 1500 with the 5.9L engine with 15K miles. I have recently +>had a bad problem of engine knocking during acceleration, especially on the +>highway. The dealer told me that the problem has been occuring on a few +>other 5.9L engines and that Chrysler has recommended a higher octane gas. +>Has anyone else heard of this? I also have a problem of losing oil for the +>past week. When i checked the spark plugs on my engine, the two cylinders +>at the back of the engine showed heavy black deposits while the other six +>plugs looked very good. I also occasionally get black or very thick white +>smoke coming from the tailpipe when revving the engine in park. Any +>suggestions of what could be causing this or any one experiencing the same +>problems? That don't sound very good for a brand new truck. % 235 Horse Power 500 Foot Pounds of Axle Snapping Torque 6 Speed 4.88 Rear %

plcpro

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Oct 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/28/98
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Could be broken or stuck rings.

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Jim Dyer wrote in message ...


>I own a 1998 Ram 1500 with the 5.9L engine with 15K miles. I have recently

>had a bad problem of engine knocking during acceleration, especially on the

>highway. The dealer told me that the problem has been occuring on a few

>other 5.9L engines and that Chrysler has recommended a higher octane gas.

>Has anyone else heard of this? I also have a problem of losing oil for the

>past week. When i checked the spark plugs on my engine, the two cylinders

>at the back of the engine showed heavy black deposits while the other six

>plugs looked very good. I also occasionally get black or very thick white

>smoke coming from the tailpipe when revving the engine in park. Any

>suggestions of what could be causing this or any one experiencing the same

>problems?
>
>

Gary - KJ6Q

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Oct 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/28/98
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SOUNDS like you have SERIOUS engine problems - and NOT gas octane related!
Stick to that dealers hind end 'til they get it fixed! Extended heavy
ping/knock can easily break rings or cause piston damage...

Gary - KJ6Q

LEE7687

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Oct 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/29/98
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When I asked the same question about my 318 running a little rough when started
in the morning and I told them I was using premium, they said to use regular
gas and that seemed to help but the problem never went away. After the tranny
replacement I didn't give a shit and just ignored it. Just like Chrysler did.
I think the gas problem with both 318 and 360 engines has something to do with
tighter emissions and computer settings but who knows. As far as your oil leak
and smoke puffing tail pipe I can't give you any advice. Just have to take it
back to those wonderful Mopar mechanics and beg them to fix it like I did with
my tranny. Later.

Greg Phillips

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Oct 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/29/98
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Welcome to the unhappy ram owners club customer service center.
Please have a seat in our waiting area and someone will be with you
shortly. In the mean while could we interest you in a new vehicle?
An hour passes by with nobody helping you at the dealership. Good
morning sir, welcome to the unhappy ram owners club.... Get the
picture? My dealer sucks too! And no they haven't properly repaired
my 97 ram cc with 13k on the clock either. My rear end is howling
even louder now than before they "repaired it" and now it does it no
matter what you do, decelerate, accellerate and coasting. My tranny
still makes moaning sounds after a cold start when you put it in
reverse. Chrysler sucks!

Leo Hickey

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Oct 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/29/98
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Ram burning oil (this applies to all magnum 318/360 motors). The intake
manifolds are not a solid cast piece, but are open on the bottom with a
stamped pan and gasket. On quite a few trucks this pan is distorted (from
overtourqing? I don't know). This allows the gasket to blow out, so there
is a massive vacumn leak right over the top of the constantly oiled lifter,
and it causes massive oil consumption, which throws the o2 sensor way off
and causes a host of other driveability problems. Its EASY to check for
this. Pinch the PCV line off (runs from pass side valve cover to the intake
manifold. Now pull the breather tube off the other valve cover and while
the engine is running check for a large amount of vacumn present. If you
feel large amounts of vacumn and your idle flares up when you take your
finger off and way down (sometimes to the point of stalling) when you put
your finger back on it you have found you problem.

If anyone finds this let me know, I have seen several trucks with this
problem in the last 3 or 4 months, and appears to be mostly trucks with
aftermarket exhaust (75% of the time or so, but I have seen it on trucks
w/out aftermarket exhaust also). I am curious as to how widespread this
problem is.

Leo Hickey
ASE Certified Master Technician
ASE Certified L1 Advanced Engine Performance

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99

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Oct 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/29/98
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I can assure you that the same would apply to any Ford or GM repair as well. The only service I ever let those idiots do out of warranty is, twin I beam alignment. I once went to an independent shop, and the mechanic said the angles are not adjustable on twin I beams. So if you have a Ford, they are at least good for this one adjustment. On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 03:24:34 GMT, Greg Phillips wrote: +>Welcome to the unhappy ram owners club customer service center. +>Please have a seat in our waiting area and someone will be with you +>shortly. In the mean while could we interest you in a new vehicle? +>An hour passes by with nobody helping you at the dealership. Good +>morning sir, welcome to the unhappy ram owners club.... Get the +>picture? My dealer sucks too! And no they haven't properly repaired +>my 97 ram cc with 13k on the clock either. My rear end is howling +>even louder now than before they "repaired it" and now it does it no +>matter what you do, decelerate, accellerate and coasting. My tranny +>still makes moaning sounds after a cold start when you put it in +>reverse. Chrysler sucks! % 235 Horse Power 500 Foot Pounds of Axle Snapping Torque 6 Speed 4.88 Rear %

bigFrank

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Oct 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/29/98
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I have had this problem since just before summer with my 95 Dakota 318.
Cylinder #8 is always crappy, oily, grungy ... #7 is half as bad ... other
6, perfect. Since it only seemed to smoke at startup, the dealer replaced my
valve seals, under the emissions warrantee, because my truck only had 36k on
it (3 years up last Oct.). They said the back two cylinders run hotter than
the others, and these seals fail first. Okay, they were brittle, but this
didn't fix it. I just happen to have had an appointment this morning, so the
new "shop foreman" (not sure about his title) could look at. He did exactly
what Leo said, and since I had some vacuum (I have been using a quart of
Mobil 1 every 550 miles, so it is not a massive leak) present he said that
the belly pan gasket on the bottom of the intake was blown out ... just as
Leo said, and that he just had another one last week. It will be fixed
Monday ... stay tuned.

Leo, I have a Walker DynoMax cat-back on my truck.

Frank
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Don Shelman

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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Geez - does anyone have problems like these with the Cummins diesel? Just
when I was starting to consider the V10. Guess I'll think again..

Just askin',

Don

John McELwee

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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On Sun, 01 Nov 1998 01:35:23 GMT, "Don Shelman" <don-s...@home.com>
wrote:

>Geez - does anyone have problems like these with the Cummins diesel? Just
>when I was starting to consider the V10. Guess I'll think again..
>
>Just askin',
>
>Don

*****Just an observation. *****

It's seems as though alot of the posts here are to express some sort
of disatisfaction with a product. I think this leads to a gross
misrepresentation of the BIG picture. And this may mislead someone who
might be thinking about buying this product by turning them away. When
in reality, for every 1 bad experience, there are 99 good experiences.

What I mean is that someone posts a comment of some trouble they
have/had. Someone else posts a similar message, and so on and so on.
Sometimes there are posts that say they've had only good luck with the
same product.
Let's say there a 8 negative posts and 2 good posts. Does this mean
that 80% of the product is crap? I don't think so.


*****Just an observation.*****

mark

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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Don Shelman wrote:
>
> Geez - does anyone have problems like these with the Cummins diesel? Just
> when I was starting to consider the V10. Guess I'll think again..
>
> Just askin',
>
> Don

No problems from my V10.


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loribr...@gmail.com

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Jan 13, 2019, 8:27:09 PM1/13/19
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I've read that the small block molars with this type of intake all have this problem every 60to70000 miles the pan under it could be rusted out or just warped and the gasket has blown out I found it on the Dakota RYAN forum I have a 99 RT standard cab 189000 miles on it I think my Valley pan is shot it's best to go with a after market high performance intake there one piece item that will solve the issue Thanks for hearing about what I have found out ps. My 360 is still a screamer the Byrne perfect a little gas ping but I burn higher octane and it solved that issue Mr.John Kirchner email address kirchne...@yahoo.com if any questions

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