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Can't pass DEQ test. OBD test fails because some systems are "unready".

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Calvin Laza

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Apr 3, 2001, 3:22:45 PM4/3/01
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I have posted this message on the "alt.autos.dodge" newsgroup, but I haven't
received any replies. That newsgroup appears to be dying out, there only a
few posts on it. I hope I don't offend anybody by posting this message on
"alt.autos.dodge.trucks", since my 96 Dodge Neon is certainly not a truck.


The OBD test always shows that I have the catalyst, the O2 sensor, O2
heater, and the EGR systems in the "Unready" position.

In Oregon, there is some stupid law where all 1996 or newer vehicles must
pass the OBD test, and if you have more than 2 systems in the "Unready"
position you automatically fail the test, you do not have the option to do
the tailpipe emission test the old fashioned way, like older model vehicles.

I took my car to the dealer, but they said that the "Unready" systems should
return to "Ready" status only after I drive my car for a while, probably
after about a week of driving. I was encouraged to disconnect the battery
for a minute, so the computer trouble codes will be reset, than to take a
long trip.

I have followed their advice, but after I retook the DEQ test, a week later
I still have exactly the same problem, exactly the same systems are still
"Unready". I am beginning to think my computer may be bad.

Can anybody give me any suggestions, I don't know what to do next, I am
getting frustrated with this problem and my patience is wearing thin.

And about how much would it cost me to just have that stupid computer
replaced (96 Dodge Neon)?


Jacob Suter

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Apr 4, 2001, 4:19:38 AM4/4/01
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How many miles are on it? Check the warranty paperwork :)

What appears to be your problem may suddenly become Chrysler's.

JS

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Calvin Laza

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Apr 4, 2001, 3:51:19 PM4/4/01
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67,500 miles.

The dealer said only the catalytic converter is still covered by the
warranty.

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Kyle D. Ross

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Apr 4, 2001, 9:45:12 PM4/4/01
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OBDII systems test components while you drive. There are certain driving
conditions that must be met before all of the tests can be performed (called
a "driving cycle"). The advice you got on unplugging the battery actually
made things worse for you, as your system loses memory of the tests and has
to do them ALL over again.

Unfortunately, I do not have the driving cycle specs for Dodge vehicles, but
you can see the ones for GM and Ford (plus everything you never wanted to
know about OBDII) at http://www.obdii.com/obdii.html .

Keep your battery plugged in, drive a week, and the tests will be done. If
you have errors, the OBDII will store the error codes, but will say that the
tests are "complete" rather than "unready". If you have the cash, go get
one of the text-readout OBDII scan tools (I personally own the Actron
ScanTool with the OBDII cartridge and cable). It can tell you when the
tests are complete and give you any errors that the tests may have found.

Good luck.

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Mike Simmons

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Apr 4, 2001, 9:56:36 PM4/4/01
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The PCM on your Neon is covered for 8 years or 80,000 miles whichever occurs
first. If you are under 80K miles, I would make another appointment with
your dealer to get this problem corrected. It may be as simple as
reprogramming the PCM with a software update which is also covered 8/80.

Hope this helps

Chryco Service Manager
Member SAE

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Calvin Laza

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Apr 7, 2001, 10:46:20 PM4/7/01
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After a computer flash-update, it now passed the OBD test.

I wish those DEQ people told me I was failed because my car's computer was
not fully compliant with the Oregon OBD standards, instead of sending me on
a wild goose chase, but all is well when it ends well.


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