5.9L Gas mileage?
Ron
I am planning on buying a 98 2500 Clubcab ,4x4, 5.9L, 5 speed, with 4:10
gears or the 3:54s depending on the gas mileage. Does anyone have this
combo? If so what is your gas mileage?
Thanks
The unemployable
If you want milage go 354 the 410 will be great with heaty towing in
hills but it will alwys get poor mialge like never better than 15 mpg.
the 354 should average 15 and can get 22 or better with the other
modifications.
--
MZ
The unemployable
If you want milage go 354 the 410 will be great with heavy towing in
hills but it will alwys get poor mpg like never better than 15 mpg. the
Geotechnical Testing Services
Ron, I have a loaded 98 2500 Quad Cab 4X4 5.9L Auto and 3.54 ratio. It only
gets 10 city 12 highway, but if you can afford a 35K truck, gas is not much
an issue! I may sell mine for 31K only 2 months old (may need cash for
house down payment) Has leather, CD, Long Bed, almost every option. email
me if you want more info?
Steve
g...@nb.net
Ron wrote in message <34CC4868...@bigfoot.com>...
Light, Ed
> I have a 1500 4X2 with a 5.9 and a 3.55 rear and have never
> gotten better than 16. Most of the time it averages about 13.5 to 15
> and thats with headers and K&N filter.
Gosh! Progress! My 1977 360 gets 9-12 mpg on premium.
--
Best wishes!
_________________
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joe bogus
On Mon, 26 Jan 1998 03:25:13 -0500, Ron <te...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>I am planning on buying a 98 2500 Clubcab ,4x4, 5.9L, 5 speed, with 4:10
>gears or the 3:54s depending on the gas mileage. Does anyone have this
>combo? If so what is your gas mileage?
>
>Thanks
>
==>Kick the baby!<==
Light, Ed wrote:
> Gosh! Progress! My 1977 360 gets 9-12 mpg on premium.
> --
>
> Best wishes!
> _________________
>
> Ed Light, Eureka, CA, USA m...@mk.net
Why do you run premium in a low compression motor? Is it modified? If it
is stock, you are wasting your money on premium.
--
Cat, the OTHER white meat.
Keith R. Phelps
nos...@cp.duluth.mn.us
Oops.. Forgot to mention, my Quad is a 1500 4x4 and has 3.5x gears and 4-speed
automatic.
--Matt Jensen
(mattj [.at.] computerpro [.dot.] com)
nos...@cp.duluth.mn.us wrote:
> FWIW, my 98 Quad Cab 5.9 gets about 12.5 city and 17-18 highway. This is on
> 89-octane gas. Higher octane than "regular" unleaded and lower than "super"
> unleaded--it's the medium grade.
>
> The truck is a little over 1 week old and has 300-something miles on it.
>
> --Matt Jensen
> (mattj [.at.] computerpro [.dot.] com)
nos...@cp.duluth.mn.us
Gary Sellstrom
How was your machine maintained?? We have a 77 Dodge b200 van with the 360 in
it(185k miles), and run regular. Mileage is around 10-12 no matter what!! It
doesn't ping under any load, it goes when you put your foot down, and besides
the carb needing the idle jet tweaked, runs perfect(and passed the Ca smog
test with flying colors!!).
This is a 49 state package running completely stock parts and
settings(mixture, timing, etc.).
Gary
Light, Ed wrote:
> ==>Kick the baby!<== wrote:
> >
> > Light, Ed wrote:
> >
> > > Gosh! Progress! My 1977 360 gets 9-12 mpg on premium.
> > > --
> > >
> > > Best wishes!
> > > _________________
> > >
> > > Ed Light, Eureka, CA, USA m...@mk.net
> >
> > Why do you run premium in a low compression motor? Is it modified? If it
> > is stock, you are wasting your money on premium.
> >
> > --
> > Cat, the OTHER white meat.
> >
> > Keith R. Phelps
>
> It was born to run leaded gas. The unleaded is much inferior. If you
> don't
> run premium you have to turn the timing back or it will ping going up
> steep hills towing, or when you punch it to get on the freeway.
> It seems like you give it less gas running premium.
> --
>
> Best wishes!
> _________________
>
> Ed Light, Eureka, CA, USA m...@mk.net
>
Light, Ed
Cassc01
Well I have read enough about gas mileage. Please don't wasit your hard earned
money on such an Awsome truck if your worried about gas mileage.
What do you expect out of a 4985 pound stock truck with a 5.9 360hp motor.
Thourgh out history trucks have been designed to pull and haul and not be
economincal.
If you are looking for something that gets good gas mileage I am sure there is
a Ford Ranger out there just for you. {pooey Yuck}.
==>Kick the baby!<==
Light, Ed wrote:
> >
> > Why do you run premium in a low compression motor? Is it modified?
> If it
> > is stock, you are wasting your money on premium.
> >
> > --
> > Cat, the OTHER white meat.
> >
> > Keith R. Phelps
>
> It was born to run leaded gas. The unleaded is much inferior. If you
> don't
> run premium you have to turn the timing back or it will ping going up
> steep hills towing, or when you punch it to get on the freeway.
> It seems like you give it less gas running premium.
> --
>
> Best wishes!
> _________________
>
> Ed Light, Eureka, CA, USA m...@mk.net
>
The 360 was not designed to run on leaded gas. It is a low compression
smog motor (I'm not saying it is a bad motor). The pinging is more
likely due to carbon deposits in the heads. They get hot and glow,
causing preignition. Whatever works I guess.
DJLeoni
Two friends have 1500 4 x 4 clubs. One with the 5.2, the other with the 5.9,
otherwise identical- at, 3.55 etc. . The 5.2 averages 17.5-18, the 5.9 is
getting 12 - 14. However the 5.9 has better low-end torque. Depends on what
you're going do.
J.Bravo
I got tired of trying to figure out how to improve the gas milage on my
'96 5.9L Ram 1500, so I bought a motorcycle (98 Honda Shadow 750 ACE Deluxe)
to drive day to day. Between the bike payment and the insurance it may be an
exercise in false economy, but damn that bike is sweeeet! I only drive the
truck now in bad weather, or if I have a load or a passenger, otherwise the
Dodge stays parked. Don't get me wrong, I love the truck too, but I did
something on the bike that I have not done in a long time. I filled up at the
gas station and was able to pay cash!
MPG
------------------------------------------------
'96 Dodge Ram 1500 5.9 Liter
City.......................12.5
Highway................18.0
'98 Honda Shadow 0.75 Liter
City.......................49.0(Not Broke-In Yet)
Highway................T.B.A.
Light, Ed wrote:
> ==>Kick the baby!<== wrote:
> >
> > Light, Ed wrote:
> >
> > > Gosh! Progress! My 1977 360 gets 9-12 mpg on premium.
> > > --
> > >
> > > Best wishes!
> > > _________________
> > >
> > > Ed Light, Eureka, CA, USA m...@mk.net
> >
> > Why do you run premium in a low compression motor? Is it modified? If it
> > is stock, you are wasting your money on premium.
> >
> > --
> > Cat, the OTHER white meat.
> >
> > Keith R. Phelps
>
> It was born to run leaded gas. The unleaded is much inferior. If you
> don't
> run premium you have to turn the timing back or it will ping going up
> steep hills towing, or when you punch it to get on the freeway.
> It seems like you give it less gas running premium.
> --
>
> Best wishes!
> _________________
>
> Ed Light, Eureka, CA, USA m...@mk.net
>
Grady Fields
DJLeoni <djl...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19980206131...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
This is a good example of anecdotal evidence. Not very scientific, but
never the less, the kind that really tends to sway people. Chances are good
that the one friend that bought the bigger engine likes to really put his
foot in it now and then (maybe more frequently than not). Chances are
equally likely that the other friend that got the 318 is more concerned
with economy and may drive the truck that way. I myself get in these moods
when I like to hear the rumble of the v8 -- more gas, more rumble. Then
when I calculate my mileage at the next fillup, the rumble becomes less
important.
So what's the point. The point is you should probably rely on the EPA
ratings on the sticker. Big brother has mandated that vehicles (except
certain HD or commercial vehicles) be tested in a scientific way to come up
with city/highway MPG ratings. In essence, the vehicle is place on a dyno
like device connected to a computer. A person then "drives" the vehicle
through a series of simulated city or highway type conditions specified by
the computer. The computer provides target speeds and acceleration rates,
and collects feedback on speed, acceleration rates, etc. from the dyno-like
device. Its kinda like a video game for the tester. Do this many times with
the same vehicle and monitor the amount of fuel used, and you have a nice
bechmarked system by which all vehicles can be compared. And since every
vehicle must drive the same "programmed" route at the same "programmed"
speeds, there is a way to collect valid scientific data on fuel consumption
rates.
What mileage do I get with my 97 Ram 1500 4x4 CC SB 318/Auto/3.55 265-75-16
tires? Just what it said on the EPA sticker when I bought the thing 13 city
and 17 highway. Of course there are minor variations like only diving the
4.3 mile trip to work on surface streets (engine cold most of the way) for
most of a tank. I get a lower MPG (10-11 mpg) rating becuse the engine is
running rich until it warms up. Suprisingly though, I can drive 75-80 for
long periods on a flat highway and still come in right at 16 MPG. This is
probably due to the tall tires and fail high gearing which combine to give
a tach reading of 2000 RPM @ 70 MPH and 2200 RPM at 80 MPH. At 55 MPH the
tach reads something like 1600 RPM.
Soooooo, before you totally beleive the 12-14 for 5.9 vs. the 17.5-18 for
the 5.2 quoted in the original poster's message, check the EPA ratings.
They are a pretty good guide.
BTW - I'm ambivolent about my decision to get the 318/5.2 over the 360/5.9.
I kind of recall the EPA ratings for everything else equal but the motor
were very similar. I think it was 11 city and 16 higway for the 360/5.9.
Before my '97 I had a 96 1500 4x2 CC SB w/ 318, auto, and 3.55 axle. This
truck did pretty darn good in the hills/mountains. But it had much shorter
tires. When driving the same hills/mountains with effectively the same
power train, but taller tires, make the engine work much harder - dropping
down to second on hills the 96 would have gobbled up in third. I probably
should have got the either the 5.9 or the next lower gearing. Or, maybe
even both.
John Roberts
DJLeoni wrote in message
<19980206131...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
>Two friends have 1500 4 x 4 clubs. One with the 5.2, the other
with the 5.9,
>otherwise identical- at, 3.55 etc. . The 5.2 averages 17.5-18,
the 5.9 is
>getting 12 - 14. However the 5.9 has better low-end torque.
Depends on what
>you're going do.
Sounds about right - the 5.2's I drive do around 17 (normally
city mileage), while my own 5.9 consistently gets around 13 no
matter what I'm doing (highway, city, loaded, unloaded, etc.).
Cassc01
Nice bike, Congratulations!.....I personally have never bothered worring about
gas mileage in my 97 Dodge1500, Club cab 4X4, I have a lead foot and visit the
pump regularly. However, I found that on my 97 Suzuki 800 Intruder I was only
getting about 105 miles to the tank. I have solved this problem with a 98
Yamaha 1100 V-Star Custom. It has a 4.2gal tank and I can go forever on a tank
of gas. Now all I need is some decient weather to ride in. :-)
J.Bravo
I looked at V-Star, but I am a big guy and wanted more then 650cc's but less
then 1100cc's (because of price & insurance) but it was a tough choice. If I where
about 30 pounds lighter I might have gone with the Yamaha. I cannot figure out why
Yamaha killed off the 750cc's for '98. Yamaha made a 750cc Virago up to '97. I'm
sure the air-cooled 650cc had enough power, but the engine displacement tilted my
decision just enough for me to buy the Shadow. Hope the weather clears soon. :-)
Joseph H. Nichols
J.P. Hearn
I have 94 Dodge 2500 5.9L with 92,000 and get about 410 miles out of tank on
the highway almost 300 in town.........The only modifcation was a set of
Jacobs silicon sparkplug wires and a Omni pak ignition........it also
improved the scoot it has off the line too..........My brother has a 96 with
a 5.2L and I get better mileage especially when pull my 5th
wheel.........anyway thats just my 2 cents worth.......
J.P.
cheryl m
I belive that the 5.9 liter mag. engine is 360 cu. in . and produces
about 235 herse power.. but i get about 12 miles to the gallon..in a
2500 4x4.
G Engvall
In article <01bd3325$4735da00$b0d523c7@gradynt>, "Grady Fields"
<gra...@ixDOTnetcom.com> writes:
>Chances are equally likely that the other friend that got the 318 is more
>concerned with economy and may drive the truck that way.
Interesting theory. I bought the 318 'cuz it's a good motor that I had
experience maintaining. I - um - *don't* drive it for economy.
My new 5.2 liter is in a 3/4 ton, 8 passenger van. Gets (according to the log
book and the spreadsheet) 16 mpg at 80 mph in overdrive (with only 3 stops from
"full" to "empty". I can get 17 mpg with a tailwind and driving slower. With
the 3,000 lb utility trailer behind it gets 13 (highway). If I owned the
trailer before I owned the van, I might have gotten the big block. Maybe.
good heavens;
gary engvall
Rabbit
> >Chances are equally likely that the other friend that got the 318 is more
> >concerned with economy and may drive the truck that way.
>
> Interesting theory. I bought the 318 'cuz it's a good motor that I had
> experience maintaining. I - um - *don't* drive it for economy.
>
My theory's always been that if you want to save gas, stay home.
Rabbit
'95 1500 318
K.C. Jackson
In <19980215174...@ladder02.news.aol.com> geng...@aol.com (G
Engvall) writes:
>
>>Chances are equally likely that the other friend that got the 318 is
>>more concerned with economy and may drive the truck that way.
>
>Interesting theory. I bought the 318 'cuz it's a good motor that I had
>experience maintaining. I - um - *don't* drive it for economy.
>
I dropped a 302-powered F150 for a Cummins-powered Ram 3500, and got a
40% increase in fuel economy, but I bought the stronger truck because I
beat the hell out of that 1/2 ton and it wasn't surviving well. The
economy is just a bonus in that regard. Right foot and rear load have
more to do with an engine's mpg than anything else.
People buying Fords who checked things out carefully always opted for
the 300 straight six over the 302 V8 - only 10 lb-ft difference in
torque, and the lighter six had more effect on the mpg than a lot of
people realized. I had the 302 out of, like Gary said, previous
experience. If I was more concerned about fuel economy, I would have
gotten the six then.
don
I got the 318 not for the mpg, but for the long life a Dodge 318 is know
for. But I would like to know how or what I can do to increase my mpg I pay
about $1.50 a gallon and I don't see the price dropping.
Bob
truck, are you? I can't remember the last time I saw Regular gas go for
a buck fifty. Second, and this may be a stupid question as I know very
little about Mopar engines, but aren't the 318 and the 360 practically
the same except for internal dimensions? If so, why would the smaller
engine last longer? It has less power and would strain harder to do the
same amount of work. Bob
John Callaci
Exactly the reason I ordered a ISB Cummins.
John
don
I do believe you are right about the 318 and 360. But I did have a 318 once
before and past 130000+ miles before I gave it up for a new car.
Also I believe that the 318 has been around allot longer.
But, for the gas I got better mpg when I used 91 or better octane. I do not
like using octane additives. At one time some one told me that the additives
just gums up you spark plugs.
Bob wrote in message <34E7C7...@yahoo.com>...
Marshall Schuon
Bob <rch4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>don wrote:
>>
>> I got the 318 not for the mpg, but for the long life a Dodge 318 is know
>> for. But I would like to know how or what I can do to increase my mpg I pay
>> about $1.50 a gallon and I don't see the price dropping.
> A few questions for you, Don. First, you're not burning Premium in that
>truck, are you? I can't remember the last time I saw Regular gas go for
>a buck fifty. Second, and this may be a stupid question as I know very
>little about Mopar engines, but aren't the 318 and the 360 practically
>the same except for internal dimensions? If so, why would the smaller
>engine last longer? It has less power and would strain harder to do the
>same amount of work. Bob
Good point. I remember a long-ago Car & Driver test of identical
Mopars (don't remember the model), one with the 318 and one with a
383. The 383 got better mileage by far, just because it was loafing
instead of straining.
Marshall Schuon
Dave and Cheryl Hess
What's an ISB Cummins?
Dave
John Callaci <Jcal...@tnl-online.com> wrote in article
<34E7D2A5...@tnl-online.com>...
Dick
don wrote:
>
> I got the 318 not for the mpg, but for the long life a Dodge 318 is know
> for. But I would like to know how or what I can do to increase my mpg I pay
> about $1.50 a gallon and I don't see the price dropping.
I read a post here recently that claimed that using higher octane
gas than that recommended by Dodge will actually lower miles per
gallon. The post claimed the higher octane will cause the
computer to improperly adjust mixture or something. I'll look for
it in the archives.
Dick Eriksson
97 Sport 5.9L
Rabbit
Bob wrote:
>
> don wrote:
> >
> > I got the 318 not for the mpg, but for the long life a Dodge 318 is know
> > for. But I would like to know how or what I can do to increase my mpg I pay
> > about $1.50 a gallon and I don't see the price dropping.
> truck, are you? I can't remember the last time I saw Regular gas go for
> a buck fifty.
Neither can I. Here in Ontario it's around $2.29 ...
Rabbit
K.C. Jackson
In <6c8fc0$pn0$1...@broadway.interport.net> "don" <dpon...@interport.net>
writes:
>I got the 318 not for the mpg, but for the long life a Dodge 318 is
>know for. But I would like to know how or what I can do to increase
>my mpg I pay about $1.50 a gallon and I don't see the price dropping.
You could always move... Regular unleaded is about 99 cents in north
NJ, and less in south NJ.
J.P. Hearn
In this great debate over gas mileage, I made a easy modifaction to my 94
2500 with a 360 with over 90k to get better mileage, I installed a Jacobs
ignition and wires. Get much better mileage and scoot. My brother has a
newer 96 1500 318 and when towing our fith wheels I get almost 100 miles
further out of a tank. Anyway for what its worth that my mileage story.
J.P.
Bob_B
You just opened yourself up for "but who would want to live in Jersey"
jokes.
I'm in South Jersey and saw regular for 91 cents at Citgo. I'm sticking to
my guns and paying a little more for Amoco and Sunoco.
K.C. Jackson wrote in message <6c9sav$k...@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>...
Grady Fields
Bob <rch4...@yahoo.com> wrote in article <34E7C7...@yahoo.com>...
> don wrote:
> >
> > I got the 318 not for the mpg, but for the long life a Dodge 318 is
know
> > for. But I would like to know how or what I can do to increase my mpg
I pay
> > about $1.50 a gallon and I don't see the price dropping.
> truck, are you? I can't remember the last time I saw Regular gas go for
> little about Mopar engines, but aren't the 318 and the 360 practically
> the same except for internal dimensions? If so, why would the smaller
> engine last longer? It has less power and would strain harder to do the
> same amount of work. Bob
>
If you only knew...
Just this weekend there was a story on the news here in the SF/Bay-Area.
The topic was "Why do we pay such a high price for gas?".
That seems to be a very good question. Heres some proces they "quoted" in
the piece.
Oklahoma $.79
LA $.99
And the SF/Bay area average is about $1.35. The only way to get it for less
is through a mon-n-pop chain (which I do at Redding Petroleum @ $1.14).
Funny thing is that the regional refineries are almost literally in my back
yard (I live in Concord) yet we pay more than people out in the San Joaquin
valley and much of the sierra foothills (60-100 miles away). This weekend I
drove up to the sierra foothills and along the way paid $1.06 in the little
town of San Andreas (85 mi from refineries). How can the fuel be shipped 85
miles and still cost less?
And here's the kicker... When the anchor asked the reporter why we pay
more, the reporter said
"There's a perception that we [bay area residents] can afford to pay
more."
Woa, hold the bus. where's the "free hand" that is supposed to be at work
in this situation. I smell price collusion here.
I'm not saying we should pay exactly what is paid in Oklahoma (we have lots
of state taxes in gas price), but within Calif, things should be more
equitable.
OttokarS
In article <ZE5G.631$Cv2.4...@news2.voicenet.com>, "Bob_B"
<bob...@voicenet.com> writes:
>You just opened yourself up for "but who would want to live in Jersey" jokes.
>I'm in South Jersey and saw regular for 91 cents at Citgo. I'm sticking to my
>guns and paying a little more for Amoco and Sunoco.
Damn! I wish I could get gas that cheap in NJ!
COZ
Liquid
What kind of 5th wheel to you use with a half ton 318? You're kinda pushing
it if the trailer's heavy. My slant six did some heavy towing and it got poor
mileage too. Unloaded got about 17 mpg (Cummins truck gets better :).
You really shouldn't punish a truck like that. It's hard on every part of it.
G Engvall
In article <6c8fc0$pn0$1...@broadway.interport.net>, "don"
<dpon...@interport.net> writes:
>I got the 318 not for the mpg, but for the long life a Dodge 318 is know for.
Amen. My '90 has 220,000 on the clock. Uses a little oil, but not enough to
even add a quart in 3,000 miles between changes. Now, if they could only get
paint to stick to it....
>But I would like to know how or what I can do to increase my mpg I pay about
>$1.50 a gallon and I don't see the price dropping.
Sheesh ! Move ! <vbg> Even here in the northeast prices have dropped to 1.15.
In Indiana we were paying $.99 back in December. 'Course, in Connecticut, they
probably increase the state tax to offset any reduction in retail price. ;-)
good heavens;
gary engvall
G Engvall
>> truck, are you? I can't remember the last time I saw Regular gas go for
> a
>buck fifty.
Neither can I. Here in Ontario it's around $2.29 ...
ROFL ! Good one, Rabbit !
good heavens;
gary engvall
BIG T V13
I get 18mpg hiwy sprot 4by 1500 360 3.92 rear. I dirve avg.80 mi's
anhour on hiwy 13 city but there are trick's! When i am done i
i will get" 20" hiwy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nitemare90
>I pay
>> > about $1.50 a gallon and I don't see the price dropping.
>> A few questions for you, Don. First, you're not burning Premium in
>that
Where do u people live that it costs u so much for premium? Here in Central NJ
it only costs about 1.13 to 1.25 depending on the day u get gas.
I've run premium, plus, and regular and i've gotten as good mileage on the plus
as i have on the premium. regular works ok if u don't have much cash that day
to fill. All i can is that i got better mileage using plus and premium than i
did using regular. and only paid about 1.15/gal on average for premim
Chris
' 96 Ram SLT CC 4x2 5.9L w/ all the trimmings
Light, Ed
Here in Eureka, Califonia Premium is $1.63.
Every brand has the exact same gas that comes up on a tanker!
I think that if you use higher octane and push the pedal less it evens
out.
Haven't done a real scientific test on it.
I use Tufoil, which gives me about a 20% boost on mileage and maybe a
40%
boost on longevity.
It does cool the engive down 10 degrees on the temp gauge, so you have
to
judge whether to put in hotter plugs or thermostat.
Also, you'll probably have to turn the idle down when it breaks in.
One caution: don't use it in an unbroken-in new engine or it won't break
in
for a long time!
Best wishes!
_________________
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The Mind Control Forum - http://www.mk.net/~mcf
Resisting the ongoing covert mind control takeover
"Great spirits have always encountered violent
opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein
Light, Ed
PS in addition to my previous post (this should be
hanging off it in the thread sequence) on Tufoil,
you can use it in your axle(s) and manual trans.,
but *not* in an automatic.
Patrick Palczewski
Light, Ed wrote in message <34F20E...@mk.net>...
:Nitemare90 wrote:
:>
:> >I pay
:> >> > about $1.50 a gallon and I don't see the price dropping.
:> >> A few questions for you, Don. First, you're not burning
Premium in
:> >that
:>
:> Where do u people live that it costs u so much for premium? Here in
Central NJ
:> it only costs about 1.13 to 1.25 depending on the day u get gas.
:Here in Eureka, Califonia Premium is $1.63.
:Every brand has the exact same gas that comes up on a tanker!
I recall a few years ago driving through a little town in the Sierras,
between Grass Valley and Truckee, in the hills. Chevron station was
$1.75 a gallon, and the guy wouldn't let me pump my own gas, because
he wanted to justify the Full Service price, which was the only price
on the pump.... :/ That was back in, oh, '89 or so, when gas in
southern California was about $1.09 or so...
Patrick P.
PepperSoft Technologies