Jiffy Lube Over filled my oil!
Jim Norton
I have a 1993 Corvette, LT-1 with about 75K miles. I took it into Jiffy
Lube for an oil change.
A few days later, I started noticing blue exhaust when starting the engine
cold, such as in the morning.
Now, since I had never seen this before, I knew something was wrong. I
checked the oil level and sure enough,
Jiffy Lube put in about 1 quart too much oil. It was filled with 5W10
Synthetic (not Mobil one). I must have driven it
for a week or so with the oil level way high.
Took it back to Jiffy Lube, got them to drop the level down to normal.
I spoke to them about this and told them about the oil burning exhaust and
they said I would have to take it
to a certain local shop -- not a Chevy dealer -- to determine if they did
some damage. This is ridiculous. Like I am
supposed to trust a local shop that does work for Jiffy Lube when they fuck
up?
Couple questions:
1- Is it likely, that this has caused some damage to my engine?
2- If its determined at the local shop, or at a dealership that engine
damage has occured, such as some blown valve seals etc, what legal recourse
do I have to get this fixed properly? Jiffy Lube says they will pay for
repairs. But I really don't want the local non dealership shop working on
it. Can I force them to pay for the repairs done by a Chevy dealership?
Also, does this group have a FAQ? Never posted here before.
Thanks,
Jim Norton
Bob
If you went to Jiffy Lube for an oil change...why do you have problems with a
local
shop... ? I avoid dealers at all costs, and would not trust Jiffy Lube's 16
year old
kids to do anything with my cars...
Bob
Lars
week. Anyway, dude, I wouldn't let anyone touch my car. Unless it was brand
new and the dealer was giving me free oil changes.
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BLM
lookings for techs with "no experience necessary"?
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Jim Norton
Interesting how it spurts out
burnt oil in the morning now.
Why do I take it to Jiffy Lube? Good question! I guess I learned my
lesson. Never had a problem
with any oil change shop before. Maybe I need to reconsider who does what
on my Vette.
Thanks,
Jim
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Chad Reynolds
it wherever you choose. It's just like if they ran into it with someones
car. You get to choose where it's repaired, not the insurance company. Does
it still smoke?
Randon Loeb
If possible, get the things that Jiffy Lube has told you in writing.
Also, document how they acted in a negligent manner. For example, does
your oil cap have the oil volume stamped on it?, etc..
Then send them in writing a demand to have the vehicle inspected at a
mechanic of your choice, but be open to negotiating with them. Include
the documentation mentioned above. Their guy might be honest, you may
want to check into it.
Also, you may want to talk to your insurance company, a good agent will
know the laws for your state and what your rights are with regards to
botched jobs like this. I am no expert, but I would guess that you
could get the car inspected/repaired anywhere you want, and if they are
truly at fault for damages you should have no trouble suing in small
claims court, even without a lawyer. You could argue that their botched
job makes them liable for an inspection cost, and in most states I would
imagine that this should be of your choosing and at their cost. Again,
a good insurance agent could probably answer these questions for you.
Depending on your plan, all this might be covered?
I suspect that if you put as much as you can in writing, threaten to
sue, etc.. that they will pay for inspection and damages without a big
stink. Putting too much oil in can do damage and can be dangerous, so I
doubt they'll give you much of a fight, considering oil changes is the
only thing they are supposed to do correctly. Bluff and say you have a
lawyer and are ready to sue, and they'll probably crumble.
David Francis
on it, you
were probably just experiencing some blow-by on the rings.
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Chick
it has nothing to do with Jiffy Lube, just a coincidence. So don't blame JL.
It's fairly common for the LT1 to start sucking oil through the intake
gasket, it can happen anytime. More likely with higher miles but I've worked
on them with as low as 5K.
I've seen Camaros do it and 9C1's (iron heads) but it's more common for
Corvette LT1's due to (aluminum heads)
Bruce Graham
99.9 % of the work yourself....and you will save many headaches..only
trust the dealership to evaluate your problem . maybe you should get an
estimate at their shop and pay the difference for the dealer repair.
Ron Garz
Overfilling your oil will increase oil pressure???????????
I'd like to see the eplaination of that!
RS
wrote:
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>1- Is it likely, that this has caused some damage to my engine?
I can remember two possible negative effects of having overfilled
the engine oil.
First is that there is more oil getting out through the crankcase
ventilation system which can get into the catalysators to be burned
there. This may damage the inner coating of the catalysators which
makes them work worse and therefore producing higher emissions.
Second is that the crankshaft may dip into the oil in the oil pan
while it's rotating. This can cause the oil to foam. If this foam
is sucked into the oil pump it causes a lack of lubrication in the
engine.
Both things AFAIK should only happen if the oil level is REALLY
high AND the engine is working under hard conditions.
If you never got an low oil pressure warning on your instruments
and you did not recognize an unnormal low oil pressure reading
on the pressure gauge during driving, the second effect shouldn't
have occured especially when you were driving descently.
The first you can check by letting a shop check your cars
emissions.
When I bought my LT-1 last year the dealer also overfilled the
engine oil. There should go in 4.3 liters and he refilled with
5 liters during the oil change. When I asked him why there's
too much oil in my engine he told me that the capacity would
be 4.7 liters and they would always fill in 5 liters into
Corvette engines which would be one normal canister over here.
For the first I was satisfied with that but soon I learned that
the 4.7 liters only apply to engines before the LT-1. Then I
found out that the correct capacity for the LT-1 is 4.3 and that
even in GM original manuals or other documents the capacity was
not correct for a while.
Therefore I corrected the oil level by draining some oil during
some other maintainance work on my Vette.
But I never experienced any problems while driving with the higher
oil level and haven't recognized defects regarding the overfilling
up to now.
CU,
Rolf
--
Rolf Michael Schneider - E-Mail: rolf.sc...@bingo-ev.de
'Happy ? "Datamerica" can help you solve that problem.'
- Revolter, 1996
Baby Bubba
over-fill situation (not Corvette engines). Also, an oil burning engine
might cause the catelytic converter to clog.
90 red top coupe
Jim Norton
Maybe it just had to burn out the oil that made its way into places it
normally doesn't go?
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Jim Norton
And how did you come to this diagnosis?
If correct, what is the typical to repair it?
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Jim Norton
what happens. It really irritates me,
that before this, I never saw blue smoke. Now it may have gone away, but
some have suggested that the catalytic converter could get clogged to the
rear main seal getting blown. Great just great.
On the other hand, it does appear to run as before.
Thanks again,
Jim
'93 LT-1 Black 6-speed
Pictures of it here: http://www.team-army.com/~jrn/
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Chick
It has to resealed so both gaskets will be replaced.
When you take it to your mechanic he'll know what to do.
Plan on about 4 hours labor and around $50 for material.
Chimera
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Everett2123
change the oil.I dont even trust dealers on oil changes,my last new truck had a
free oil change which I waited til it was cold out and didnt want to do it
myself.I had to use a 1/2 in. ratchet to loosen the drain plug and the oil
filter must have been put on with a pipe wrench Geeeeesh.I like to change my
own oil and it gives you a chance to check out other stuff when your under the
car too...................Gary>Subject: Re: Jiffy Lube Over filled my oil!
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