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C5 STEREO UPGRADE.

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INFINITSYS

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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I'm thinking of replacing my horrible headache causing Bose piece of crap
stereo on my C5. I have no idea even where to begin. I know I want to keep the
factory head unit. I want to replace the speakers, add a sub woofer and a one
five channel amp. I was thinking about putting either Focal, Boston Acoustics,
MB-Quart or Dynoaudio speakers in it. The Speakers would be coaxial in factory
locations, as I don't feel like putting holes in my car. The Amp will probably
be a five channel Soundstream Reference series. I know the cheap Bose crap has
built in amplifiers in them, so I still don't know how to properly interface
the amp and the head unit. I was also thinking of putting the sub and the amp
in the middle rear compartment. Seems like a perfect place for it. I can't
imagine how to install the amp though because there is no metal there to ground
it to. The body is plastic. Also I was thinking of putting a replacement front
speaker of original size, 8". I don't know if any speaker would fit.

If anybody attempted to upgrade the stereo in their C5 I would greatly
appreciate any info on how they did it.

Thanks in advance.

Andre
99, Z51, HUD...

Art

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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I think Bart has done this, maybe he can help.

The Bose system is great for AM and nothing else. GM blew it when
they chose this system. Everyone in the audio community knows that
Bose sucks. This just proves the marketing genius of Dr. Bose to
schlep crap for decades.

Roy K

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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I am lookiing just to add a tube as I am leasing (when I get my C5).. There
are high quality adapters (if there is such a thing) available for a
bose-to-amp setup. In my C4 - I changed it all but I bought that one.

Anyone find a good size and location for a tube in a C5 convertible?

Roy

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bar...@nospam.giganews.com

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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INFINITSYS <infin...@aol.com> wrote:
: I'm thinking of replacing my horrible headache causing Bose piece of crap

: stereo on my C5. I have no idea even where to begin. I know I want to keep the
: factory head unit. I want to replace the speakers, add a sub woofer and a one
: five channel amp. I was thinking about putting either Focal, Boston Acoustics,
: MB-Quart or Dynoaudio speakers in it. The Speakers would be coaxial in factory
: locations, as I don't feel like putting holes in my car. The Amp will probably
: be a five channel Soundstream Reference series. I know the cheap Bose crap has
: built in amplifiers in them, so I still don't know how to properly interface
: the amp and the head unit. I was also thinking of putting the sub and the amp
: in the middle rear compartment. Seems like a perfect place for it. I can't
: imagine how to install the amp though because there is no metal there to ground
: it to. The body is plastic. Also I was thinking of putting a replacement front
: speaker of original size, 8". I don't know if any speaker would fit.

: If anybody attempted to upgrade the stereo in their C5 I would greatly
: appreciate any info on how they did it.

Dump the head unit. The AC/DELCO head unit has speaker level outputs,
instead of nice 3V pre-outs. If you are going to spend the $$$ on high end
speakers, spend $300-400 and get a new head unit.

Jonah

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PawlRevere

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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>Dump the head unit. The AC/DELCO head unit has speaker level outputs,
>instead of nice 3V pre-outs. If you are going to spend the $$$ on high end
>speakers, spend $300-400 and get a new head unit.

the bose/delco head unit does not have front speaker level outputs.

benson

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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Will the stock cd changer work with a new 1.5 DIN pioneer head unit in the C5?
How easy is it to replace the speakers in the c5? What are the standard speaker
sizes?

bar...@nospam.giganews.com wrote:

> INFINITSYS <infin...@aol.com> wrote:
> : It's not the money I'm concerned about. I just don't want to tear up the dash.
>
> You won't have to tear up the dash. The stock head unit pops right out,
> and there are 1.5 din (exact size) head units by Pioneer that are an
> exact fit.
>
> Jonah
>
> :>Dump the head unit. The AC/DELCO head unit has speaker level outputs,


> :>instead of nice 3V pre-outs. If you are going to spend the $$$ on high end
> :>speakers, spend $300-400 and get a new head unit.
>

INFINITSYS

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Feb 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/26/99
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It's not the money I'm concerned about. I just don't want to tear up the dash.

>Dump the head unit. The AC/DELCO head unit has speaker level outputs,

bar...@nospam.giganews.com

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Feb 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/26/99
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INFINITSYS <infin...@aol.com> wrote:
: It's not the money I'm concerned about. I just don't want to tear up the dash.

You won't have to tear up the dash. The stock head unit pops right out,
and there are 1.5 din (exact size) head units by Pioneer that are an
exact fit.

Jonah

:>Dump the head unit. The AC/DELCO head unit has speaker level outputs,


:>instead of nice 3V pre-outs. If you are going to spend the $$$ on high end
:>speakers, spend $300-400 and get a new head unit.

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INFINITSYS

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Feb 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/26/99
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I know all about those Pioneer heads. I sell them. But how do I take out the
old one and put the Pioneer in it's place? do I need a special mounting sleeve
or does it just slip right in?

Roy K

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Feb 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/26/99
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INFINITSYS <infin...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>I know all about those Pioneer heads. I sell them. But how do I take out
the
>old one and put the Pioneer in it's place? do I need a special mounting
sleeve
>or does it just slip right in?

If you sell them, why don't you look in the box and check the instructions?
Matter of fact - it's probably in the back of the Pioneer car audio
catalog... I had audio shops for 12 years but no more... In most cases with
the 1.5 din units; you will remove the brackets from the existing delco and
the pioneer deck has mounting provisions for them and other vehicle brands.
Just switch the brackets and it bolts in..

Pioneer is not the only source for these units..

Make sure you get harness adapters so you can use the existing wiring
without cutting harnesses. The deck can be wired on a workbench and "poped
in" in a short time.

The dash is no problem, it's the easy part... wait 'till you get into
removing the door speakers and amps and install new ones... That's the tough
part.

Maybe the speaker assemblies are easier to get to in a C5 as I have not
looked closely but in a C4 - It's a bitch..The inner aluminum door skin is
riveted in place after the speaker boxes are installed. Either you remove
the skin (I never did) or you open up the existing speaker enclosure to
install a larger speaker. I used to leave the box in there and cut it open
with a hole saw after removing the speaker/amp assembly. I think the C5
speakers a larger than the 3.5's in a C4 bit they are still not 6.5's. If
you do this - you should use 6.5's

In my C4 I used a din radio and a 1/2 din eq underneath it. It fit great. I
used a dash kit and a little Mgiver. had 600 watts RMS using 3 amps
Lanzar/Pyle. I built 10" subs flush into the compartment doors behind the
seats and the amps were below the speakers (no abs).. 6x9 co-ax in the rear,
6.5"s in the doors, and 4x6 in the dash. Crossovers, faders, the works..
Sounded awesome and the 84 w/z51 needed volume to drown the rattles anyway.
It ate an alternator every ~2 years. I owned the car for 5 years before I
did it and sold it 5 years later.

Good Luck! -

Roy

Roy K

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Feb 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/26/99
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----- Original Message -----
From: benson <ben...@netxpress.com>
Subject: Re: C5 STEREO UPGRADE.


>Will the stock cd changer work with a new 1.5 DIN pioneer head unit in the
C5?


It may not unless you get a special adapter. Most automakers have the
changers and/or head units use a different cable just to make it a "dealer
item." A good audio shop will know the answer and will be able to get the
correct cable for you if it's available.

>How easy is it to replace the speakers in the c5? What are the standard
speaker
>sizes?

Sizes?? = too small
Easy is not part of the description... See my other post in this thread.

Roy

>
>bar...@nospam.giganews.com wrote:
>
>> INFINITSYS <infin...@aol.com> wrote:

>> : It's not the money I'm concerned about. I just don't want to tear up


the dash.
>>
>> You won't have to tear up the dash. The stock head unit pops right out,
>> and there are 1.5 din (exact size) head units by Pioneer that are an
>> exact fit.
>>
>> Jonah
>>

Sinques

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Feb 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/26/99
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Who else makes a good head unit for the C5?
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Sinques
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14TheGipper

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Feb 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/26/99
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>In article <7b6msk$9ga$1...@camel21.mindspring.com>,

> "Sinques" <sin...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> Who else makes a good head unit for the C5?

Monica Lewinsky ? ; )

> Sinques
> '98 Rag
> "If you're left there spinning, you probably ain't winning"
> "Why is it no one respects life until they've been so close to death"
>
> Roy K wrote in message
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> >
> >Pioneer is not the only source for these units..
> >
>
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14TheGipper

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Feb 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/26/99
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Sinques

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Feb 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/26/99
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Indeed :), but seriously does anyone know another company besides Pioneer?
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Sinques
'98 Rag
"If you're left there spinning, you probably ain't winning"
"Why is it no one respects life until they've been so close to death"

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benson

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Feb 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/26/99
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Eclipse!!!!!
They make the best head unit for the c5!

Sinques

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Feb 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/27/99
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Do they have a Web Site?

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Sinques
'98 Rag
"If you're left there spinning, you probably ain't winning"
"Why is it no one respects life until they've been so close to death"

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