~Jay
Torch Red 1998 6-Speed Coupe
"Cacciaglia" <cacci...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Add your Vanity plates to http://www.usavanityplates.com it is free. Don't
have
> vanity plates; see what plates people have in your state.
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"Jay in Atlanta" <jian...@polymerproductions.com> wrote in message
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carefull what you say about Rice... there are 4bangers out there faster than
Vettes....
please don't flame me as I still believe the C5 vette to be the best car out
there... ;)
"ZeeOhSix (Z06)" <ZeeO...@lalim.net> wrote in message
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"Deonysius" <se...@nb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Ok. I didn't think so....
If you want to talk modified, that is a different story....
The modded Corvette will even blow them away more....
Wake up dude.
NORICE4ME
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"Deonysius" <se...@nb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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>Mine would say FINALLY... or I8AZ06... hehe
>
>carefull what you say about Rice... there are 4bangers out there faster than
>Vettes....
On which planet?
Wayne "Hell, which galaxy? Certainly not around here anyplace"
Johnson
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Lorandun
"Deonysius" <se...@nb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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There are two different worlds here. 20-30K will transform a
riceburner into a very rough, straight line rocket. And forget the
air-conditioning, but it never really worked anyway. Note that 20-30K
is equal to or more than the price of the car.
20-30K won't make a huge difference in a C5. 50-70K will turn a C5 A4
into an easily drivable, comfortable street car that will turn 9.6 or
so in the 1/4 with mufflers and street tires. This means that the
mods won't destroy the original car, Note that 50-70K is equal to or
more than the price of the car.
Don
I am about 10 days from getting my 2001 Vette back from Norris Motorsports
after investing the $20-30K you describe.
It will be a 9 something second car, and also my daily driver.
We're predicting around 600-650 rwhp.
It won't do it on street tires. No 9 second vette has done it on street
tires. ET Streets at a minimum, but most, including the LPE car, have done
it on slicks. Traction is the biggest problem.
Tom
who is anxiously awaiting his supercharged 7-liter.
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If you can get a 9 sec C5 for 20-30K WITHOUT destroying the car, i.e.
handling, drivability, noise, etc, you are really doing well. I am
interested in the details, and yes, I am skeptical.
Don
First, you start with a 422 block, which is a bored and resleeved LS-1.
Then your add the appropriate strengthened internals -- Lunati crank, etc.
Don't forget a cam appropriate for forced induction, fairly mild. In my
case, the block is from ARE.
Go with low compression, in my case 9:5.1.
That along should be in the high 400's rwhp.
Then you add the ATI Procharger, pushing around 10-12 psi. Go with the
D1-SC, as you'll need custom programming and bigger injectors. Don't forget
an upgraded fuel pump (from LPE). Oh, and ARE's 8-rib belt system. Don't
just have the crank pinned, Nick Agostino and Mike Norris didn't think that
would be strong enough. They are going all the way through with a pin, not
just part of the way in.
Next, if it is an A4, as is mine, add a higher stall converter, 3.42 gears
(anything higher is inappropriate for an A4). Send the transmission to FLP
to be upgraded to their FLP Level IV. Major difference in strength. Don't
forget the upgraded output shafts. They seem to break the most on M6 cars,
but we're talking serious power here.
Send the PCM off to Ed Wright for programming customized to this car. Don't
forget to have him remove torque management.
If you do all of that, you're right at your $30K limit, but have a strong,
reliable, daily driver. We could have eked out a few more HP, but at the
expense of driveability and reliability, so we didn't.
It should be done end of next week. Mike and I honestly don't know what the
end result will be, but on slicks, it's a 9 second car. Probably high 9's,
not low 9's, but a heck of a lot cheaper than LPE's low-9 Twin turbo.
Now I may never see 9's, as I'm currently planning on leaving street tires
on it. Remember, this is my daily driver. Maybe I'll invest in a set of
CCWs with slicks just for the track, but not for awhile.
Call Mike Norris, www.norrismotorsports.com if you're seriously interested.
Get him to describe in more detail what he's doing and how much it would be.
Tom
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but here goes: I was at a local drag strip & a civic HB clocked in an ET of
11.90...an Integra ran 11.88... now a Z06 doesn't run anywhere near this ET
(remember now... a second on a 1/4 mi is an eternity... so if it runs high
12s... it's waaay behind).
My statement to ZeeOhSix (nice car by the way... saw the pix on your site)
was that some 4-bangers are faster than his Z06... not to mention all the
Supras, RX7's, etc that are also way faster. Sure a modified Z06 would be
wickedely fast... but I said HIS Z06... bone-stock.
And someone said "ill-handling Riceburner"... anyone can make a Ricer out
handle a Vette... anyday... given the right suspension settings & tires...
My buddy's 11.88ET Intgera would outhandle a Vette, even a Z06... but the
cost is a rougher ride...
I also said don't flame me... besides I don't belong to any rice
newsgroups... I belong to this one..I absolutely LOVE the C5 & Z06
Corvettes...
they're God's gift to GM...
Denis
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Yes, A MODIFIED Integra or Civic can beat a STOCK Z06.
So what.
A modified Hyundai could to. With a 500 shot :)
Apples to apples, don't you think?
No stock Integra or stock civic can match a stock Z06.
No modified Integra or modified civic can match a modified C5.
Check out LPE's TT C5. low 9's quarter mile. 0-60 in UNDER 2 seconds.
Yes, 2 seconds.
Heck even my modified C5 is going to be a sub-10 car.
Course my mods cost more than an integra :)
Tom
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"Deonysius" <se...@nb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Like I said... the Vette is my top choice of car anyways...
>
> but here goes: I was at a local drag strip & a civic HB clocked in an ET of
> 11.90...an Integra ran 11.88... now a Z06 doesn't run anywhere near this ET
> (remember now... a second on a 1/4 mi is an eternity... so if it runs high
> 12s... it's waaay behind).
Were those ricers stock.... NNNooooooo...
I've seen modded Z06s run 9.9, so your point is????
> My statement to ZeeOhSix (nice car by the way... saw the pix on your site)
Thank you....
> was that some 4-bangers are faster than his Z06... not to mention all the
> Supras, RX7's, etc that are also way faster. Sure a modified Z06 would be
> wickedely fast... but I said HIS Z06... bone-stock.
Right, my point exactly, my bone-stock Z06 will kill any bone stock ricer
wanna-be.
> And someone said "ill-handling Riceburner"... anyone can make a Ricer out
> handle a Vette... anyday... given the right suspension settings & tires...
> My buddy's 11.88ET Intgera would outhandle a Vette, even a Z06... but the
> cost is a rougher ride...
so, a bone-stock integra out handles a bone stock Z06? or was it modded...
We are trying not to compare apples to oranges here....
I don't think any bone stock ricers will do .95 - 1.0g stock
(some test come up wiht different numbers), with stock tires.
Please point to info that proves otherwise...
> I also said don't flame me... besides I don't belong to any rice
> newsgroups... I belong to this one..I absolutely LOVE the C5 & Z06
> Corvettes... they're God's gift to GM...
Cool... then don't worry about the ricers....
Gary
'01 Z06
Stock except:
Tape wheel weights (factory clip-on hurt the rims)
2002 Z06 airbox (the 2001 was laughable, but I kept the part)
Magnetic oil drain plug (why not, it was $1.65)
US Flag on back window (former US Army)
And yes... the Z06 will blow away any STOCK ricecar... no question...
Handling... I dunno... the mid-engined, 11-year old NSX would give it a good
run... given the proper (or current) tires...
Bottom line... I LOVE the Z06 & any C5... but I just don't think ricers are
all bad... maybe mod'ed Civics & Integras are... hehe.. too many of those
around...
Remember now... GM only makes ONE really cool car (not talking trucks)...
Well maybe two if you count the ill-fated Camaro... RIP ...nothing else.
I just thing Rice companies try harder.... smooth the edges... go the extra
mile... (I'm talking fleet-wise... all cars they produce)...
Denis
"ZeeOhSix (Z06)" <ZeeO...@lalim.net> wrote in message
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>>>And someone said "ill-handling Riceburner"...
>>>anyone can make a Ricer out handle a Vette... anyday...
>>>given the right suspension settings & tires... My buddy's 11.88ET Intgera
>>>would outhandle a Vette, even a Z06... but the cost is a rougher ride.
Any decent go-cart can "out-handle" a Ferrari 550 or a McLaren F1 on a
go-cart track. Your buddies Intgera wouldn't have a chance on a
sportscar track. You don't lie. You simply don't know of what you
speak because you have never experienced it.
If Ricers could do what you claim, their wouldn't be anything but
ricers in car races everywhere. Why do you think that isn't
happening?
And don't tell me that it is some sort of conspiracy.
Don
>Like I said... the Vette is my top choice of car anyways...
>
>but here goes: I was at a local drag strip & a civic HB clocked in an ET of
>11.90...an Integra ran 11.88... now a Z06 doesn't run anywhere near this ET
>(remember now... a second on a 1/4 mi is an eternity... so if it runs high
>12s... it's waaay behind).
Were these street-legal? Maybe with nitrous, radical suspensions,
blowers, and so on they could do it, but I doubt the guys drove these
to their Home Depot jobs the next day.
>My statement to ZeeOhSix (nice car by the way... saw the pix on your site)
>was that some 4-bangers are faster than his Z06... not to mention all the
>Supras, RX7's, etc that are also way faster. Sure a modified Z06 would be
>wickedely fast... but I said HIS Z06... bone-stock.
OK.
>And someone said "ill-handling Riceburner"... anyone can make a Ricer out
>handle a Vette... anyday... given the right suspension settings & tires...
>My buddy's 11.88ET Intgera would outhandle a Vette, even a Z06... but the
>cost is a rougher ride...
I have major questions about this. VERY major questions.
>I also said don't flame me... besides I don't belong to any rice
>newsgroups... I belong to this one..I absolutely LOVE the C5 & Z06
>Corvettes...
>they're God's gift to GM...
Too bad the blessings don't go to any new production cars.
Wayne "The new Impala SS is a very bad joke on the name" Johnson
DOn't do it unless you're willing to take the risk.
Tom
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Having established that spending 50-70K on a C5 will get you a 9
second street car with a two year warranty, my question was, and still
is:
What sort of warranty, if any, will you get going your 20-30K hop-up
route?
I'm not trying to bait you Tom. The folks who read this thread
deserve to know all the relevant facts about C5 performance
modifications. You have claimed to be achieving a 9 second streetable
C5 for 20-30K. Would you please describe what, if any, warranty
coverage you will have on your 2001 when your conversion is finished?