BEWARE of the CORVETTEFORUM.COM. PART 2
conc...@korvetteforum.kom
THIS IS WHAT TROY ROBERTS HAD TO SAY:
btw.. by breaking the forum rules with a post to a commercial site you just
qualified for removal of posting privileges!
Do not try to register under another name. I take this very seriously and
will not leave it to a battle on the forum.
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THIS IS WHAT TROY ROBERTS HAD TO SAY:
On the signature - you have probably received my second email on it. You
> > must remove it. It leads to a site that sells Corvette items. You are no
> > longer a supporting vendor. That is in quite obvious violation of the
user
> > agreement and forum rules. Another thought on it - why use a site that I
> > can't respond to if you are going to squawk about free speech?
>
>
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This is what the vendor had to say
That site does not exist solely as my signature on CorvetteForum.com. It
> is my overall enthusiast site and that page where I sell items has nothing
> to do with you or your site (any more). People already know about it, so
> removing it will do nothing for you. But it's also my personal website
and
> I will not change it just because you ask me to. I knew you'd find some
> way to say "it's against the forum rules so remove it now."
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This is what TROY ROBERTS HAD TO SAY
On the supposed attack - I still find it very interesting that your
Grand
> > Prix site doesn't allow competition. I think that's an important point.
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This is what the supporting vendor had to say:
Okay, I'm totally not getting you here. It's an enthusiast site. It
> doesn't allow anyone to advertise. It has a links section with links to
> TONS of other manufacturers and websites, and that is the extent of it.
> It's not a commercial site.
>
> Look here. This is the enthusiast site: http://www.grandprix.net/
>
> Look here. This is the COMMERCIAL site: http://www.grandprixstore.com/
>
> If you read my mailing list or site archives, you will see how violently
> ANTI-commercial I am in it. Never once do I mention my own store, and
> never once do I stop others from talking freely about commercial sites if
> they so choose so long as it's not blatant advertising.
>
> Cripes, Troy, get a life here. Do you see an Autobuffs banner on
> Xmotorsports.com? No! It's the same idea. I'm really not sure what
> you're getting at here. It has nothing to do with being hypocritical.
I'm
> sure you'll keep bringing this up because you know that it makes no sense
> and that's your way of not directly addressing your own hypocrisy. Sad,
> for someone in your position. Be man enough to admit that what you did
> yesterday was very wrong.
>
>
Ha! In our "conversation" (which was really a "Troy here telling you what
> you must do right away" one way dictation) you told me that I need to stop
> "playing games" on the forum. This makes me very angry as I hadn't even
> replied to any of the controversial posts that day at all - it was Kim and
> a few others out there who were writing, but you called ME to tell me to
> stop it. Scapegoat...but I won't be one. Where do you get off doing
this?
> Point out where one obvious or implied threat was made. All I was doing
> was being brutally honest and straightforward instead of lining the shit
> with roses. I thought you could handle it. In any case, it may have been
> a little hotheaded, as I mentioned once already, but YOU were the one who
> began attacking me for no reason. I am allowed to disagree with Xtreme
> publicly on the forum - enough said. You took that personally somehow and
> there is a big reason for that, in my and other people's opinions. It's
> obvious to many on the forum.
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This is what TROY ROBERTS had to say
that is against me and my site. Disagreements are fine. I have a long
record
> > that shows I allow them. Your attitude towards me and Corvetteforum and
>
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This is what the vendor had to say
That is only because the record of your countless controversial deletions,
> locks, and bans is not puclicly available. What's left makes you out to
be
> fair and permissive, when in fact the untold story is what is more true.
> Any logical and reasonable person knows this.
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This is what TROY ROBERTS HAD TO SAY:
attempts to rally the vendors against me resulted in your removal as a
> > supporting vendor. I would expect that you would act the same way on
your
> > site. Stop and think about that for a minute. Really.
>
Rally the vendors against you? How so? What proof do you have of this?
> That I discuss my unhappiness with your decisions with other vendors is
> rather logical, don't you think? It's them that your decision mostly
> affects, and I am friends with them so why shouldn't I discuss it? I gave
> them my opinion and allowed them to form their own opinions of the new
> process. I never had to do any "rallying" as you are trying to blame me
> for. But I see you are not fair enough to just admit that you don't like
> me or my vocalness, and want me to go away.
>
> > On you looking silly - it's like Chicken Little. Some people will listen
to
> > you for now. When the store proves your predictions wrong, you will look
> > like the Y2K cranks that thought civilization was going to end.
>
>
> I hope for everyone involved that you are right, but I have been doing
this
> for too long to know how quickly intentions change. Free society
naturally
> progresses towards commercialism on the internet, and you are not immune.
> You may have good intentions now, and I want to believe deep down that you
> do, but in the end it most likely won't last (statistically speaking,
again
> having absolutely zero to do with Troy Roberts personally).
>
> > will see this over time. btw.. did you ever stop to think how offensive
it
> > is to be accused, tried, and hung when no crime has taken place? That's
what
> > you've tried to do with me. You are wholly and completely in the wrong
in
> > your beliefs. Again, you will see this over time. Hopefully you'll be
man
> > enough to say that you were wrong when you realize it.
>
>
> Absolutely. But it won't be a simple matter of months - unless the
> CorvetteForum remains unbiased and a free society for all eternity, this
> won't ever be true. If you ever sell out to anyone, or allow someone to
> purchase the Forum, my predictions will come true and things will be
> exactly as I have said. You can seriously tell me that if someone came
> along and offered you a million bucks for the site that you wouldn't take
> it and run? Any halfway intelligent person would! It would secure your
> financial future and your family's well being in one shot. Why wouldn't
> you do that? But if you did, that's what I'm saying will happen. Is it
so
> hard to think about? You aren't always right, Troy, can you admit that?
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BEWARE OF THE CORVETTEFORUM.COM
This says it all
That is only because the record of your countless controversial deletions,
> locks, and bans is not puclicly available. What's left makes you out to
be
> fair and permissive, when in fact the untold story is what is more true.
> Any logical and reasonable person knows this.