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andrewl

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Feb 14, 2005, 7:57:55 AM2/14/05
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Hello!

I have a Citroen C3 Desire, 53 Reg. I have a recurring problem where the
Engine Management Fault light on the instrument panel keeps coming on and
the engine's power disappears. My dealer tells me they've fixed it, but it
happens again. Is anyone else having this problem?

Thanks

AL


Alwik

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Feb 14, 2005, 4:38:12 PM2/14/05
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Could be anything, you should ask your dealer what fault was stored in
the enginecomputer, that might giva a clue...

Alwik
The Netherlands

andrewl

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Feb 15, 2005, 8:44:49 AM2/15/05
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"Intermittent fault - Throttle Position Copy", whatever that means!

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Dan

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Feb 15, 2005, 8:46:39 AM2/15/05
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:44:49 -0000, "andrewl" <and...@hmgcc.gov.uk>
wrote:

>"Intermittent fault - Throttle Position Copy", whatever that means!

You suddenly got double Webers?

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Adrian

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Feb 15, 2005, 8:53:15 AM2/15/05
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andrewl (and...@hmgcc.gov.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

> "Intermittent fault - Throttle Position Copy", whatever that means!

An intermittent fault in the signal from the Throttle position sensor,
then. In other words, the ecu doesn't know what the throttle's doing, so
can't tell how much fuel to inject.

Probably just a duff connection somewhere.

alwik

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Feb 17, 2005, 1:04:04 PM2/17/05
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Allright, the throttle position sensor measures how much you press the
pedal, there's a variable resistor in it.
In fact, for security reasons, there are TWO variable resistors.
The measurements are compared, if they differ too much, the most likely
value is taken. Also an error code will be stored, and the engine
warning light will come on.
No engine/environmental harm, and no drivebilityproblems, until the
other one stops working...
You should ask your dealer to just replace it (it's under warrenty I
assume?)

Alwik
The Netherlands

Alan

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Mar 11, 2005, 10:06:07 PM3/11/05
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Al

I have a Citroen C3 SX, 52 reg, mine does the same, i have been to main
dealer who told me they have fitted a resistor and updated the software, has
only happened once since then. I have found that it occurs when the engine
is just getting towards its normal temperature, i have found though that if
park up and switch off everything, except the hazard lights!, and restart
after a few moments all is ok again

Alan
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andrewl

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Mar 14, 2005, 9:13:27 AM3/14/05
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Mine will drive again too if I do what you describe. However, the little
fault light does not go off! In the end, they replaced the "throttle body"
and since then (touch wood!) it has not happened again. When it does happen,
it is quite scary as you lose all power. So far it hasn't happened on the
motorway, but I hate to think what I'll do if it does!

Incidentally, the latest problem with my C3 is that there is a
creak/knocking noise from the pillar between the doors (driver's side).
Dealership says some bodywork needs welding back together and it is a common
fault! Very reassuring!

I bought my C3 new and in the 18 months I have had it, it has been back to
the dealership 10 times due to faults (ie not for servicing). I would not
advise anyone to buy a C3!

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Krullebol

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Mar 28, 2005, 11:40:18 AM3/28/05
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The C3 has drive by wire technology, the fault mentioned
is a very common fault in DBW systems. It means the sensor that gives the
acelleratorpadlle position to the
MM system is not always present.
The result of this is the MM system switching to a safe
driving mode, wich results in severe power loss.

Cleaning any connectors in the sensor circuit or
replacing will solve the problem. Replacing is the
last thing you would like to do, the sensor is a very
expensive part.

"Dan" <d...@dod.no> schreef in bericht
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J-Pierre

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Apr 5, 2005, 5:59:08 PM4/5/05
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"Krullebol" <Kr...@krultniet.nu> a écrit dans le message de news:
d29c1j$1iiq$1...@nl-news.euro.net...

Many problems also on Xsara site Fr http://monroe95.free.fr

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Ramon

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Apr 6, 2005, 11:16:50 AM4/6/05
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I've got a throttle problem - sometimes - in as much as taking the foot off
of the throttle doesn't always slow the car down.. especially at around 35 -
40 mph.. sometimes it tends to speed up a bit. Its been back 5 times, but
they say 'nowt wrong'.. I reckon l'm going to sell it - shame really 'cos
its comfy to drive... its an 03 reg diesel, 10,000 miles. Any suggestions
what the problem may be please?.
Cheers


icedog

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Apr 12, 2005, 3:12:38 PM4/12/05
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"Ramon" <sa...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Don't sell a good car.You have a solvable problem. The symptoms are the same
as is used on racing
motorcycles. It is called a back-torque slipper clutch which allows bikes to
free-wheel into a corner.Definitely sounds like
a software fault. Perhaps they incorporated it in error.
Go back to the dealer as you are in warranty and
insist
that they contact the manufacturer and get it fixed.

Icedog.


Ramon

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Apr 17, 2005, 8:45:39 AM4/17/05
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Hi Icedog... thanks for the help. Went back.. but told its a bit different
to a bike --- blar blar. Don't really want to sell the thing, but this
accelerator problem is driving me nuts-- the damned thing wont do it when
they go for a test run...... thanks anyway. Ramon.


icedog

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Apr 20, 2005, 4:08:07 PM4/20/05
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"Ramon" <sa...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Cheers Ramon.
Sorry couldn't help. Of course, unlike Honda and Suzuki, Citroen don't make
bikes so may not even be aware that this facility exists as it is leading
edge thinking, as was paddle gearchange a few years ago. AFAIK there is no
actual clutch plate, merely a computer
program module which part disengages the clutch on the overrrun. It would
probably be
linked to the electronic throttle. Hence a software matter, perhaps
designed to improve fuel consumption.(anyone else out there
with no braking on overrun?).
For what it is worth my 2002 C3SX auto works perfectly, in fact if anything
there is too much braking effect when I lift off. Of course it ante-dates
this "technology."

Good luck - if you get a result please re-post with findings.

Icedog.


Hammo

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May 15, 2006, 8:08:23 AM5/15/06
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I have this problem with the management light and loss of power,but only
when I go round a right hand bend. anyone else had this problem.

Hammo.

Melody

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Mar 3, 2019, 2:18:02 PM3/3/19
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replying to andrewl, Melody wrote:
Hope you can help I have a Citroen c3 when car drove alot it will flash auto
have to switch off car and wait for it to reset then yesterday there was a
whining Noise then got someone to put automatic gearbox oil in but whining was
still there then this morning went on auto again and took a hour to start but
only goes up to 2000 revs please help me as it's my only transport for kids to
school hope I posted in right place thank u melody

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