Gear Ratios
Octane
JDV5150 wrote:
>
> DON'T TELL ME the 3.42 rear was not an option for the automatic...I
> CURRENTLY OWN A 96 Z28 WITH THE PERFORMANCE AXLE (3.42)!!!!!
No, you'd have a 3.23 axle ratio. The standard ratio is 2.73, 3.23 is
the perf. for the auto.
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Octane
BufflSoldr wrote:
>
> The Firebird's performance axle option is 3:23, while the Camaro's is
> 3:42.
>
> Dan K
The 6-speed's performance axle in 3.42, the auto's is 3.23.
NO 3.42 GEAR RATIO WAS EVER AVAILABLE ON A 4TH GEN AUTO!
HMah414055
I had this exact conversation with a guy here in KC that owns a 96 Z28 A4
and a speed shop. He says his car came with a 3.42!
Catch ya later,
Performin' Norman
85 Dodge Turbo Z, 91 GMC Syclone (soon to be 2)
94 Chevrolet Z28 (Procharged)
I've got Naturalaspirphobia!
JDV5150
THANK YOU...at least someone knows what they're talking about..i would
recommend that if you're not sure about what you're going to say..then
dont say it!!!!
Googolplex
HMah414055 (hmah4...@aol.com) wrote:
: I had this exact conversation with a guy here in KC that owns a 96 Z28 A4
: and a speed shop. He says his car came with a 3.42!
: Catch ya later,
: Performin' Norman
Again, we await the results of "the glove-box test." (what is the GU number?)
BufflSoldr
torr...@aol.com
In article <5bu3ta$o...@news.interlog.com>, Octane <luin8170@~mach1.wlu.ca>
writes:
>> DON'T TELL ME the 3.42 rear was not an option for the automatic...I
>> CURRENTLY OWN A 96 Z28 WITH THE PERFORMANCE AXLE (3.42)!!!!!
Okay, I won't tell you. . . . I'll just tell the rest of the newsgroup.
This is bullshit. Clueless bullshit from a clueless dweeb. No such
thing. Why do people keep trying to perpetrate this crap?
TorridZ28
wayne
On 21 Jan 1997 02:21:17 GMT, torr...@aol.com wrote:
>In article <19970120232...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
>buffl...@aol.com (BufflSoldr) writes:
>
>>
>>The Firebird's performance axle option is 3:23, while the Camaro's is
>>3:42.
Where are you getting this information?
>That's what I just love about this newsgroup. . . . It's full of clueless
>dweebs who are full of shit. This is total bullshit. There are **no**
>stock production 4th Generation LT1 based F-bodies that come with a 3.42
>axle ratio and an automatic transmission.
>
Hey, it's a free country. You can be mis - informed and spew nonsense
if you like.
---
Wayne R. Edelen '96 Formula Firebird
Frederick, MD Med Drk Met Purple
wa...@clark.net 1SC, TTop, !CAGS, AS&M Cold Air
JDV5150
THANK YOU..I'VE BEEN STRESSING THIS POINT BUT NO ONE SEEMS TO BELIEVE
ME!!!
torr...@aol.com
>
>The Firebird's performance axle option is 3:23, while the Camaro's is
>3:42.
That's what I just love about this newsgroup. . . . It's full of clueless
dweebs who are full of shit. This is total bullshit. There are **no**
stock production 4th Generation LT1 based F-bodies that come with a 3.42
axle ratio and an automatic transmission.
TorridZ28
JDV5150
YES IT WAS!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WILL GET A COPY OF THE STICKER THAT WAS ON MY
CAR WHEN I BOUGHT IT ASS!@#$!!!! IT WAS AN OPTION FOR THE AUTO
(3.42---CHEVY) OR()3.23---PONTIAC)..DO ANY OF YOU GUYS EVEN HAVE A 4TH
GENERATION F-BODY, CAUSE IF YOU DID, YOU WOULD KNOW....MY CAR IS A 96 Z28
WITH AN AUTOMATIC WITH 3.42 GEARS...CALL UP CHEVY YOU DUMB CLOWNS!!! IF I
WASN'T POSITIVE I WAS RIGHT, I WOULDN'T BE POSTING THIS STUPIDITY!!! IF
YOUR SHIFTER CAN BE PUT INTO FIRST GEAR, YOU HAVE THE 3.42 REAR--CHEVY, OR
3.23 REAR--PONTIAC!!!!
JDV5150
WHY WOULD I STRESS MY POINT SO MUCH IF I WASN'T SO SURE ABOUT IT
Bill Anderson
an aftermarket set of 3.42 gears in my formerly 2.73 equipped 94 Z-28. I took it to Chevy to get the PCM
re-programmed for the new gearset and the service manager along with a host of GM people told me they cannot do
it since the car was never offered with the 3.42/A4 combination. Therefore Chevy has no written program for an
A4 car with 3.42 gears. If the option code for the car is GU5 it is a 3.23 car, a GU6 is a 3.42 car and will
only be found in a 6 speeder.
Bill
will...@gte.net
Mark A. Cochran
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>WHY WOULD I STRESS MY POINT SO MUCH IF I WASN'T SO SURE ABOUT IT
You know, the members of the KKK are also "so sure".
The members of the KKK also "stress" their point.
The members of the KKK also scream all the time.
The members of the KKK are a bunch of idiots.
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Richard OKeefe
In article <19970121022...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, torr...@aol.com
says...
>
>
>That's what I just love about this newsgroup. . . . It's full of clueless
>dweebs who are full of shit. This is total bullshit. There are **no**
>stock production 4th Generation LT1 based F-bodies that come with a 3.42
>axle ratio and an automatic transmission.
>
>TorridZ28
True, but I remember a poster on the f-body digest getting a 3.42 with
the automatic trans from the factory. Misteaks still occasionally happen.
Dick OKeefe
95 Z28
Bill Anderson
JDV5150 wrote:
>
> WHY WOULD I STRESS MY POINT SO MUCH IF I WASN'T SO SURE ABOUT ITBecause you think you're sure. You have received bad information. Half the people at Chevrolet probobaly think
the Z-28 has a six cylinder engine. Trust me the last Z-28 automatic with a 3.42 rear was offered in 1979,
while the 4 speed of that same year had a 3.73 rear. That was the only part of that car that even hinted of
performance.
Bill
will...@gte.net
Octane
JDV5150 wrote:
>
> WHY WOULD I STRESS MY POINT SO MUCH IF I WASN'T SO SURE ABOUT IT
And why would others here stress their point so much if we weren't
sure.
What you believe and what is actually the case are two completely
different things. I've seen heated debates on whether or not the
Holocaust actually occurred, Elvis sightings, UFO landings, etc. Just
because some side is passionate means they believe in their case, not
that it's right.
--
Octane
1994 25th Anniversary T/A A4
Edelbrock Headers / Flowmaster Exhaust
Cold Air Intake with K&N Filter
Octane
Googolplex wrote:
>
> JDV5150 (jdv...@aol.com) wrote:
> : WHY WOULD I STRESS MY POINT SO MUCH IF I WASN'T SO SURE ABOUT IT
>
> glove-box data. (preferring instead to refer to sticker data; not highly
> reliable)
He's admitted that his Glovebox says GU5, but insists that on HIS
vehicle that refers to a 3.42 rear.
Googolplex
JDV5150 (jdv...@aol.com) wrote:
: WHY WOULD I STRESS MY POINT SO MUCH IF I WASN'T SO SURE ABOUT IT
I guess the same reason you refuse to post your VIN number or swear to your
glove-box data. (preferring instead to refer to sticker data; not highly
reliable)
Patrick Joyce
JDV5150 wrote:
>I WOULDN'T BE POSTING THIS STUPIDITY!!!
Well, you can't argue with that, anyway.
Patrick Joyce
JDV5150
my glove box says GU5...although i know what you guys have to say, i have
been told by my dealer, and other "GEAR" heads that is is 3.42.....in fact
i just remembered now a few magazines doing reviews on an automatic Z28
and for the rear axle ratio it said 3.42...i have to find that article!!!
i've heard more people tell me it was 3.42 than 3.23...i'm confused now!!!
also, i keep or take my friends off the line with their 3.55's and 3.73's.
Demon Cleaner
Bill Anderson wrote:
I just installed an aftermarket set of 3.42 gears in my formerly 2.73
equipped 94 Z-28.
If you don't mind me asking. How much did this cost?
Thanks,
Demon Cleaner
Brent Franker
JDV5150 <jdv...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970121181...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
> YES IT WAS!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WILL GET A COPY OF THE STICKER THAT WAS ON MY
> CAR WHEN I BOUGHT IT ASS!@#$!!!! IT WAS AN OPTION FOR THE AUTO
> (3.42---CHEVY) OR()3.23---PONTIAC)..DO ANY OF YOU GUYS EVEN HAVE A 4TH
> GENERATION F-BODY, CAUSE IF YOU DID, YOU WOULD KNOW....MY CAR IS A 96 Z28
> WITH AN AUTOMATIC WITH 3.42 GEARS...CALL UP CHEVY YOU DUMB CLOWNS!!! IF I
> WASN'T POSITIVE I WAS RIGHT, I WOULDN'T BE POSTING THIS STUPIDITY!!! IF
> YOUR SHIFTER CAN BE PUT INTO FIRST GEAR, YOU HAVE THE 3.42 REAR--CHEVY,
OR
> 3.23 REAR--PONTIAC!!!!
>
and I have 3.23 gears... from the factory. By the way, you probalby aren't
going to get much help in the future from the very knowledgealble people in
this newsgroup if you keep up the above behavior. Also, I was unaware that
they put the actual gear ratio on the window sticker, as you seem to imply.
It may have changed, but my 94's sticker simply reads "Performance Axle".
Brent
wayne
On 21 Jan 1997 18:17:56 GMT, jdv...@aol.com (JDV5150) wrote:
>YES IT WAS!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WILL GET A COPY OF THE STICKER THAT WAS ON MY
>CAR WHEN I BOUGHT IT ASS!@#$!!!! IT WAS AN OPTION FOR THE AUTO
>(3.42---CHEVY) OR()3.23---PONTIAC)..DO ANY OF YOU GUYS EVEN HAVE A 4TH
>GENERATION F-BODY, CAUSE IF YOU DID, YOU WOULD KNOW....MY CAR IS A 96 Z28
>WITH AN AUTOMATIC WITH 3.42 GEARS...CALL UP CHEVY YOU DUMB CLOWNS!!! IF I
>WASN'T POSITIVE I WAS RIGHT, I WOULDN'T BE POSTING THIS STUPIDITY!!! IF
>YOUR SHIFTER CAN BE PUT INTO FIRST GEAR, YOU HAVE THE 3.42 REAR--CHEVY, OR
>3.23 REAR--PONTIAC!!!!
You are probably going to get alot of responses like this, but I will
just throw mine in with all of the others.
1. Don't post in all CAPS. If you want to get your point across, use
CAPS only on words you would like to stress, *or* use asterisks.
2. Please quote text from a previous post when you flame a response.
This helps us determine who you are flaming. Flames are always
welcome, if properly worded, etc. BUT, these pointless posts are just
picked apart for not following proper posting guidelines and the real
point is never addressed.
3. You obviously haven't been around for very long. Most that post
here:
a) own an f-body
b) own several f-bodies
c) are f-body enthusiasts
d) are gearheads
e) are *very* knowledgable (sp?) gearheads
f) ALL of the ABOVE
So, if you are SO certain that your info is correct, post some
corroborating(sp?) information. Scan your sticker or your options
list. OR, as was previously suggested, tell us what it says in your
glove box.
BBz27
JDV5150 wrote:
>
> my glove box says GU5...although i know what you guys have to say, i have
> been told by my dealer, and other "GEAR" heads that is is 3.42.....in fact
GU5 = 3.23
GU6 = 3.42
Believe what you want.... glovebox or dealer....factory glovebox sticker says u have the
GU5 RPO on your car.
--
Dante Ibarra bib...@gmu.edu
1969 Camaro SS
1994 Firebird Formula
JDV5150
yeah, but i also told you the truth..i could of just said GU6!!
i'm not like that....i'm gonna search into it
Brent Franker
> my glove box says GU5...although i know what you guys have to say, i have
> been told by my dealer, and other "GEAR" heads that is is 3.42.....in
fact
> and for the rear axle ratio it said 3.42...i have to find that article!!!
> i've heard more people tell me it was 3.42 than 3.23...i'm confused
now!!!
> also, i keep or take my friends off the line with their 3.55's and
3.73's.
>
something today. I was going 77 mph at 2500 rpm in overdrive. My glovebox
also indicates the GU5 option. Why don't you try this and see what kind of
numbers you get? From everything I have heard I have the 3.23 gears. Post
your results, maybe they will be different.
See ya,
Brent
94Z
Rawhyde100
How many rpm is the engine running at 60 mph in Drive (3rd gear) ??
Chris Keen
JDV5150 wrote:
>
> WHY WOULD I STRESS MY POINT SO MUCH IF I WASN'T SO SURE ABOUT IT
Could it be that you're afraid to admit that you're wrong? (That is of
course if you are). I don't know one way or the other.
Chris.
JDV5150
you could be right because at 60mph in overdrive...the motor is at 2
grand!!!!
that seems a little high for 3.23's!!! :)
Scott Meador
I have a 94 V6 5 spd
I have the GU5 code.
Which rear end is this? 3.23?
thanks
Scott
JDV5150
i admitted i was wrong!!! and googplex, are you really that mad at
me?...i'm gonna drop this subject...and i didn't mean it if i annoyed you
guys.
Googolplex
JDV5150 (jdv...@aol.com) wrote:
: you could be right because at 60mph in overdrive...the motor is at 2
: grand!!!!
: that seems a little high for 3.23's!!! :)
Then....that would mean that all along you've been wrong....any apology coming
for calling us "CLOWNS?"
Josh J. Haviland
In a previous article, wa...@please.no.spam (wayne) says:
>On 21 Jan 1997 18:17:56 GMT, jdv...@aol.com (JDV5150) wrote:
>
>>YES IT WAS!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WILL GET A COPY OF THE STICKER THAT WAS ON MY
>>CAR WHEN I BOUGHT IT ASS!@#$!!!! IT WAS AN OPTION FOR THE AUTO
>>(3.42---CHEVY) OR()3.23---PONTIAC)..DO ANY OF YOU GUYS EVEN HAVE A 4TH
>>GENERATION F-BODY, CAUSE IF YOU DID, YOU WOULD KNOW....MY CAR IS A 96 Z28
>>WITH AN AUTOMATIC WITH 3.42 GEARS...CALL UP CHEVY YOU DUMB CLOWNS!!! IF I
>>WASN'T POSITIVE I WAS RIGHT, I WOULDN'T BE POSTING THIS STUPIDITY!!! IF
>>YOUR SHIFTER CAN BE PUT INTO FIRST GEAR, YOU HAVE THE 3.42 REAR--CHEVY, OR
>>3.23 REAR--PONTIAC!!!! ^^^^^^ I hope your car goes into 1st!
>
>You are probably going to get alot of responses like this,
>and like this!!
>
>1. Don't post in all CAPS. why not? and miss out on all this???!!!!!
>2. Please quote text from a previous post when you flame a response, as so
*Flames are always welcome*
BUT, these pointless posts are just
>picked apart for being stupid and having f-booty content
>
>3. You obviously haven't been around for very long. Most that post
>here:
> a) own an f-booty
> b) own several f-bodies (waste of money, really) unlewss there older
> c) are f-body enthusiasts (young aol pozers)
> d) are gearheads (in a camaro group? naw)
> e) are *very* knowledgable (sp?) gearheads (funny, really)
> f) ALL of the ABOVE (scary thoulght)
>
>So, if you are SO certain that your info is correct, post some
>carburation information. Scan your sticker or your options
>list. OR, as was previously suggested, tell us what it says in your
>glove box. "put gloves here if there's room"
>
>
>---
>Wayne R. Edelen '96 Formula Firebird
>Frederick, MD Med Drk Met Purple
>wa...@clark.net 1SC, TTop, !CAGS, AS&M Cold Air
>
just bored, no offence, but i can't stand any of the newer f-bodies, the
oldere 60's early 70's weren't bad tho
'70 delta 88 350 rocket - woulden't you feel bad if something bigger and 2
times heavier beats you in a fair race?
(i'll take a rocket over a bowtie anyday)
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JDV5150
speaking of "low lifes"..who's the one who can't drop this?? everytime i
view these boards, googplex has to say how i like to use caps (which was
only once or twice)
if you have been reading my other posts, when's the last time i did this?
and i think it's time to stop saying the "clown" bit too...yeah, and i'm a
low-life...i see posts done in caps all the time in here, and i never see
googplex saying anything to them..maybe we should settle this now...i
wanna run you!!! tell me where and when and i'll be there with a towel so
you can wipe your eyes after i dog you!
and yes, i do know somewhat about the LT1 being the one who has done
everything to my car myself (except aluminum driveshaft-dealer)..i would
have stopped a long time ago stating these stupid posts, but you just
wouldn't stop!!
wayne
On 25 Jan 1997 15:48:09 GMT, jdv...@aol.com (JDV5150) wrote:
>speaking of "low lifes"..who's the one who can't drop this?? everytime i
>view these boards, googplex has to say how i like to use caps (which was
>only once or twice)
I think the reason some of us are all over you is that you really made
an ass of yourself when you screamed that you were right and we were
clowns.
>if you have been reading my other posts, when's the last time i did this?
>and i think it's time to stop saying the "clown" bit too...yeah, and i'm a
>low-life...i see posts done in caps all the time in here, and i never see
>googplex saying anything to them..maybe we should settle this now...i
If you read the posts carefully, many posters here shaft idiots who
post in all CAPS.
>wanna run you!!! tell me where and when and i'll be there with a towel so
>you can wipe your eyes after i dog you!
Now, talking shit like this will certainly get you plenty of flames.
>and yes, i do know somewhat about the LT1 being the one who has done
>everything to my car myself (except aluminum driveshaft-dealer)..i would
That's good. You're one up on many people here, myself included.
BUT, if you really want people to respect your knowledge of 4th gen f
bodies, stop with the childish name calling and jumping in with both
feet like you did with this post.
Just look at Preacher, Charlie, Jim, Bruce, Patrick (both of them),
etc, etc, you will find that they are *generally* polite and post what
they know. They don't flame without reason, etc.
>have stopped a long time ago stating these stupid posts, but you just
>wouldn't stop!!
Look at this thread. There are many posts besides goog'. I count 21
(actually counted this one) posts by probably about 9 DIFFERENT people
(didn't count, just guessing). AND, if you wanted to stop... why
didn't you make this post to private e-mail?
Wayne Edelen
'84 Honda VF1000F Interceptor
'96 Pontiac Formula - 1SC, TTops, !CAGS, AS&M Cold Air
Charlie Bendig
JDV5150
Listen son you gotta stop Talking shit then cryin when people give it
back to ya.
Dont post, well I can beat you... Cause you aint the toughist, fastist,
or best shot on this group.
Dont think that you are going to get any respect, or help if you keep
this crap up, alls your going to get is abused like a red headed step
child that comes home at 5:30 am.
Im I speeking clear enough for you?
Charlie
Octane
Charlie Bendig wrote:
> Dont think that you are going to get any respect, or help if you keep
> this crap up, alls your going to get is abused like a red headed step
> child that comes home at 5:30 am.
Where did you get this saying from? I've got some friends that I've
heard it from too.
torr...@aol.com
In article <19970121181...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
jdv...@aol.com (JDV5150) writes:
>Subject: Re: Gear Ratios
>From: jdv...@aol.com (JDV5150)
>Date: 21 Jan 1997 18:17:56 GMT
>
>> YES IT WAS!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WILL GET A COPY OF THE STICKER THAT WAS ON MY
CAR WHEN I BOUGHT IT ASS!@#$!!!! IT WAS AN OPTION FOR THE AUTO
(3.42---CHEVY) OR()3.23---PONTIAC)..DO ANY OF YOU GUYS EVEN HAVE A 4TH
GENERATION F-BODY, CAUSE IF YOU DID, YOU WOULD KNOW....MY CAR IS A 96 Z28
WITH AN AUTOMATIC WITH 3.42 GEARS...CALL UP CHEVY YOU DUMB CLOWNS!!! IF I
WASN'T POSITIVE I WAS RIGHT, I WOULDN'T BE POSTING THIS STUPIDITY!!! IF
OUR SHIFTER CAN BE PUT INTO FIRST GEAR, YOU HAVE THE 3.42 REAR--CHEVY, OR
3.23 REAR--PONTIAC!!!! <<
When a clueless dweeb **shouts** clueless bullshit, it still doesn't make
it any less clueless bullshit disinformation. I couldn't care less what
**you say** the sticker said. You're misinformed.
If your automatic 4th Generation F-body came with a 3.42 rear axle, then
your speedometer is 10% in error. The speedometer/ odometer on the 1994
and newer cars are controlled by the ECM, while the 1993s are mechanically
controlled. It's all the same as far as the parameters of calibration.
No 3.42 rear axle has ever been intended to be put in a 4th generation LT1
F-body with an automatic transmission. GM doesn't make a computer program
for those parameters---only for the M6. On a 1994 and newer F-body, the
automatic transmission will not shift without the electronic shift points
provided by the ECM.
TorridZ28
torr...@aol.com
In article <5c6dcg$b...@news.interlog.com>, Octane <luin8170@~mach1.wlu.ca>
writes:
>He's admitted that his Glovebox says GU5, but insists that on HIS
>vehicle that refers to a 3.42 rear.
Like I originally said. . . . he's a clueless dweeb. GU5 stands for 3.23.
TorridZ28
torr...@aol.com
In article <19970122190...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
jdv...@aol.com (JDV5150) writes:
>my glove box says GU5...although i know what you guys have to say, i have
>been told by my dealer, and other "GEAR" heads that is is 3.42.....in
fact
>i just remembered now a few magazines doing reviews on an automatic Z28
>and for the rear axle ratio it said 3.42...i have to find that article!!!
>i've heard more people tell me it was 3.42 than 3.23...i'm confused
now!!!
>also, i keep or take my friends off the line with their 3.55's and
3.73's.
And this is just the point. . . . The dealer(s), the service manager(s),
and the magazines are **wrong.** They are either ignorant or misinformed.
Just because you find information in a magazine or have the word of a
dealership or a service department doesn't make it accurate information.
TorridZ28
torr...@aol.com
In article <01bc07f7$c3832680$2173...@bfranker.infi.net>, "Brent Franker"
<bfra...@x31.infi.net> writes:
>My 94Z is an auto (1st gear is selectable) with the performance axle
option
>and I have 3.23 gears... from the factory. By the way, you probalby
aren't
>going to get much help in the future from the very knowledgealble people
in
>this newsgroup if you keep up the above behavior. Also, I was unaware
that
>they put the actual gear ratio on the window sticker, as you seem to
imply.
> It may have changed, but my 94's sticker simply reads "Performance
Axle".
Here is a very good point. . . . The gear ratio is **not** listed on the
window sticker. Even the listing of the RPO codes are **codes** for those
gear ratios---not actual ratios.
GU2---2.73 (standard w/ automatic transmission)
GU5---3.23 (optional performance axle ratio)
GU6---3.42 (manual transmission)
TorridZ28
Paul Mittendorff
> In article <19970122190...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
> jdv...@aol.com (JDV5150) writes:
>
> >my glove box says GU5...although i know what you guys have to say, i have
> >been told by my dealer, and other "GEAR" heads that is is 3.42.....in
> fact
> >i just remembered now a few magazines doing reviews on an automatic Z28
> >and for the rear axle ratio it said 3.42...i have to find that article!!!
> >i've heard more people tell me it was 3.42 than 3.23...i'm confused
> now!!!
> >also, i keep or take my friends off the line with their 3.55's and
> 3.73's.
>
You should be more careful about what you post. Just as you have been
slammed by the members of this news group for insisting that you have a
3.42 gear ratio in an automatic from the factory, now you have tried to
back this statement up by creating an impossible gear ratio.
There is no 3.55 ratio gears for the standard GM 10bolt 7.5" ring gear/
1.438"dia. 27 spline pinion system.
The 3.23 ratio is from the combination of 42 ring gear teeth and 13
pinion teeth. The 3.42 is from 41-12. The 3.73 is from 41-11. And the
4.11 is from 41-10.
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Paul Mittendorff
(radi...@worldnet.att.net)
Charlie Bendig
Octane wrote:
> Charlie Bendig wrote:
> >Dont think that you are going to get any respect, or help if you keep
> >this crap up, alls your going to get is abused like a red headed step
> > child that comes home at 5:30 am.
>
> Where did you get this saying from? I've got some friends that I've
> heard it from too.
Its a saying I picked up when I was like 8 or so. It is probably older
then the both of us.
Charlie
Chris Bonisa
Yes, you have the 3.23 rear
GU2 = 2.73
GU5 = 3.23
GU6 = 3.42
--
Chris Bonisa
Email: chr...@cent.com Web: http://cent.com/~chrisb
94 Z-28 M6 - B&M "Ripper", Moroso Cold-Air, Borla Cat-Back,
Poly Trans & TA mounts, PFCM pads, !CAGS, TB bypass, fan switch,
Future plans: cam, nitrous?...
JDV5150
i respect your beliefs, but why is my motor at 2 grand at 60mph in OD?
just curious.
JDV5150
i guess i've been misinformed because my dealer swears it's 3.42...i guess
you can't trust even your dealer to know about your car.
jkra...@gate.net
On 26 Jan 1997 18:49:08 GMT, jdv...@aol.com (JDV5150) wrote:
>i respect your beliefs, but why is my motor at 2 grand at 60mph in OD?
>just curious.
I think it's comonly accepted that facotry tachometers are notoriously
inaccurate. In fact, a 200-400 rpm discrepancy between the tach
reading and the actualy rpms isn't uncommon at all.
A couple of months ago, there was a poster ont he F-body mailing list
that *insisted* he had 3.42s in his automatic Z28. He made up some
elaborate story of how his car must have originally been a manual, but
that they decided to make it an automatic at the last minute. When
pressed for details, he finally admitted that the only "proof" he had
for his theory was his tach reading at various mphs. Needless to say,
after practically everyone on the list pointed out the inaccuracy of
the factory tach, he decided that he was wrong.
Charlie Bendig
The Bishop wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jan 1997 22:49:32 -0500, Charlie Bendig <char...@cris.com>
> wrote:
> >Dont think that you are going to get any respect, or help if you keep
> >this crap up, alls your going to get is abused like a red headed step
> >child that comes home at 5:30 am.
> >
> this one, Charlie!
> Tensions seem to be running a bit high.
Bishop
Didnt mean to offend you, what are the odds that there would be a red
headed step child on this group that come in at 5:30 AM?
Any ways.. its just a old saying, dont worry I will *NOT* beat you up...
Charlie
Preacher
Charlie Bendig wrote:
>
> Octane wrote:
> > Charlie Bendig wrote:
> > >Dont think that you are going to get any respect, or help if you keep
> > >this crap up, alls your going to get is abused like a red headed step
> > > child that comes home at 5:30 am.
> >
> > heard it from too.
>
> Its a saying I picked up when I was like 8 or so. It is probably older
> then the both of us.
> Charlie
Geez guys, it's older than me, and I'm older 'en dirt!!
Preacher
Preacher
torr...@aol.com wrote:
>
<snip>
> Here is a very good point. . . . The gear ratio is **not** listed on the
> window sticker. Even the listing of the RPO codes are **codes** for those
> gear ratios---not actual ratios.
>
> GU2---2.73 (standard w/ automatic transmission)
> GU5---3.23 (optional performance axle ratio)
> GU6---3.42 (manual transmission)
>
> TorridZ28
Well, you just answered a question that I have been trying to get an
answer too for a long time. I have been trying to decode my build sheet
on my '71 Formula 455HO for a long time. It had the GU6 ratio on the
sheet. I have asked everyone that I could find what a GU6 was. You just
answered that. I can now see that the unreadable numbers next to the GU6
are 342! So this code goes back to at least 1971.
Now the big question... Where did you come up with this info. I need to
completely decode my build sheet.
You can e-mail me at ppol...@sprynet.com
TIA,
Preacher
JDV5150
the gearing in my friends cars are in a mustang..not from a GM car...i
guess i should of supplied that info with my post.
Nick Horianopoulos
JDV5150 wrote:
>
> the gearing in my friends cars are in a mustang..not from a GM car...i
> guess i should of supplied that info with my post.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ah, OK there, you!
After all that SH*T he was talkin'!
--
Nick Horianopoulos
"Knowledge is (horse)Power!"
gr...@concentric.net
'97 Trans-Am, M6, Black/Gray lthr,
17" OZ Monte Carlos (silver) w/Comp T/A ZR4's
Purchased, awaiting install:
K & N FPIK, 4.10 rear gear (GM) HPP+, Hooker Cat-Back, Alston Bolt-in
SFC's, Edlebrock 3 pt. engine bay brace
Brent Franker
JDV5150 <jdv...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970126184...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
> i respect your beliefs, but why is my motor at 2 grand at 60mph in OD?
> just curious.
>
stock 3.23 gears.
See ya,
Brent
94Z
KustomZ28
I am just wondering does the codes for the gears in automatics stand true
for the manuals? Mine shows GU5 in my 6 speed so according to other posts
I have the 3.23 gears, right?
Googolplex
KustomZ28 (kust...@aol.com) wrote:
: I am just wondering does the codes for the gears in automatics stand true
: for the manuals? Mine shows GU5 in my 6 speed so according to other posts
: I have the 3.23 gears, right?
Want to elaborate as to what your car is?
Z28srhot
Not that it matters, but are we talking Z/28's or T/A's here? As far as I
know, the rear axle ratio codes are the same for Chevy/Pontiac. If that's
the case, then the information in my previous post holds true for TransAms.
GU5=3.23, at least in 1993.
--
Mike Langley
93 Z28/6M/Black
Callaway Intake/Hypertech/160/Air Foil
Z28srhot
This thread has got to come to a conclusion somehow. Does anyone out there
have Camaro Service Manuals for 94-96? These are the ones that are
distributed by Helms, can be ordered from information at the back of your
owners' manuals, and as far as I know, are the official GM service manuals.
I've got a 1993 repair manual, and like most people in this newsgroup
agree, the GU5 option indicates a 3.23 rear axle ratio. If GM consistently
uses the same option codes from year to year, then there is no argument.
Does anyone know for sure if this is the case? Also, does anyone know if
there is a tag or marking on the differential or elsewhere that indicates
the actual numerical ratio? I haven't bothered to crawl under my car to
check this, but when I do my 70,000 mile tuneup this spring, I'll be
changing the differential fluid and I'll look for it. There's a good
chance that this 'discussion' will still be going.
Alternatively, if anyone lives near a Chevy dealer, I'll bet the service
department would let you take a peek at the manual. The option codes are
listed in a "General Information" section near the front of the manual.
You'll find codes for every option and "process" codes, which identify
parts that all Camaros have in common.
JDV5150
hey cochran..you seem to have the answers to everything..what's the
answer? i thought the 6-speed comes with the 3.42 rear?
wayne
On 24 Jan 1997 16:41:49 GMT, ea...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Josh J.
Haviland) spewed:
> *Flames are always welcome*
Even when you post obvious flame bait, huh?
>just bored, no offence, but i can't stand any of the newer f-bodies, the
>oldere 60's early 70's weren't bad tho
>'70 delta 88 350 rocket - woulden't you feel bad if something bigger and 2
>times heavier beats you in a fair race?
Not even gonna bite on this one.
Chris Bonisa
Richard OKeefe wrote:
>
> True, but I remember a poster on the f-body digest getting a 3.42 with
> the automatic trans from the factory. Misteaks still occasionally happen.
>
> Dick OKeefe
> 95 Z28
I remember that guy too. But later he checked it somehow and found out
he was mistaken, he only had the 3.23's.
Chris Bonisa
If you have a 93 m6 then you can have either GU2(2.73) or GU5(3.23), as
well as different tranny gears. If you have a 94-97 m6 then you should
have GU6(3.42) since this was the only one available with the 6-speed.
BufflSoldr
>That's what I just love about this newsgroup. . . . It's full of clueless
>dweebs who are full of shit. This is total bullshit. There are **no**
>stock production 4th Generation LT1 based F-bodies that come with a >3.42
axle ratio and an automatic transmission.
Actually I test drove a Z28 two days ago, and yes it was an automatic and
yes the sticker on the window said 3:42. Maybe you should check your
sources before you go insulting other people.
Patrick Gattafoni
> BufflSoldr (buffl...@aol.com) wrote:
> : >That's what I just love about this newsgroup. . . . It's full of clueless
I've never seen a window sticker actually list the number of the
optional gear ratio, it has always said Performance Axle or something
like that, but never the actual number. Perhaps our window stickers are
slightly different in Canada, but that is just my experience anyways.
Patrick
Nick Horianopoulos
Travis E. Elmore wrote:
>
snip
>
> Also, my sticker's on the drivers door, not glove box. Camaro's do it in
> the glove box still?
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Travis E. Elmore
> 1997 White TransAm WS6
> M6, T-Tops, Leather, Monsoon
>
snip of previous letter
I belive that you are confusing the sticker (on window, the "price tag"
so to speak) and the build sheet (plain computer output in glovebox)
which is a GM internal document which shows what options were placed on
the car during its manufacture.
BTW, guys, I'LL solve this argument for all time! Today, I had my rear
gear swapped out for a 4.10, (it's fooking AWESOME, I might add!) and I
have MY 3.42 ring & pinion that was taken out (I have an M6, GU6
designation, thus 3.42). I'm not sure if it will fit, but if you want my
3.42 on your automatic, just gimmie a ring!
--
Nick Horianopoulos
"Knowledge is (horse)Power!"
gr...@concentric.net
(303) 499-2662
'97 Trans-Am, M6, Black/Gray lthr,
17" OZ Monte Carlos (silver) w/Comp T/A ZR4's
K & N FPIK, 4.10 rear gear (GM) HPP+
Purchased, awaiting install:
Nick Horianopoulos
Travis E. Elmore wrote:
>
snip
>
> Also, my sticker's on the drivers door, not glove box. Camaro's do it in
> the glove box still?
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Travis E. Elmore
> 1997 White TransAm WS6
> M6, T-Tops, Leather, Monsoon
>
snip of previous letter
I believe that you are confusing the sticker (on window, the "price tag"
so to speak) and the build sheet (plain computer output in glovebox)
which is a GM internal document, which shows what options were placed on
the car during its manufacture.
BTW, guys, I'LL solve this argument for all time! Today, I had my rear
gear swapped out for a 4.10, (it's fooking AWESOME, I might add!) and I
have MY 3.42 ring & pinion that was taken out (I have an M6, GU6
designation, thus 3.42, and yes, I checked my build sheet and asked the
rear end man!). I'm not sure if it will fit, but if you want my 3.42 on
Markus Strobl
BufflSoldr wrote:
> Actually I test drove a Z28 two days ago, and yes it was an automatic and
> yes the sticker on the window said 3:42. Maybe you should check your
> sources before you go insulting other people.
I have a '96 Z28 and my sticker does not list the axle ratio. I think
you were dreaming.
------
Markus Strobl 1996 Z28 6-speed. Black/Grph. Various Mods
Dallas, Texas http://www.allinfosys.com/fbody/markus.htm
JDV5150
i've seem the rear axle ratio on the stickers of almost all new
trucks..also, my friend was just looking at a 97 WS6, and it said
perormance rear, and the gearing 3.23.
Googolplex
Travis E. Elmore (tr...@concentric.net) wrote:
: My '97 sticker doesn't say it either. And the Pontiac literature states
: that automatics have a 3.23 performance axle available as an option.
: Nothing about a 3.42.
: Also, my sticker's on the drivers door, not glove box. Camaro's do it in
: the glove box still?
: Cheers,
: --
: Travis E. Elmore
The sticker with the 3 character codes, describing the equipment built into
the car has been in the glove-box for Z28 Camaros...unless they just changed
the location on the newest model. This is NOT the Sales sticker (invoice)
that others are referring to, which is always on the window.
Travis E. Elmore
My '97 sticker doesn't say it either. And the Pontiac literature states
that automatics have a 3.23 performance axle available as an option.
Nothing about a 3.42.
Also, my sticker's on the drivers door, not glove box. Camaro's do it in
the glove box still?
Cheers,
--
Travis E. Elmore
1997 White TransAm WS6
M6, T-Tops, Leather, Monsoon
Markus Strobl <eus...@exu.ericsson.se> wrote in article
<32F0FCAE...@exu.ericsson.se>...
:
ma...@nospam.com
Googolplex wrote:
> The sticker with the 3 character codes, describing the equipment built into
> the car has been in the glove-box for Z28 Camaros...unless they just changed
> the location on the newest model. This is NOT the Sales sticker (invoice)
> that others are referring to, which is always on the window.
>
> goog...@ripco.com
I've got a 97 Z28 and the "Service Parts Identification" sticker
(three character codes) is on the end of the driver's side door now. All
the other Chevy's I've owned had it in the glove box. It took me a
couple of days before I ran across it. The salesman handed the manual
and warranty information to me so the glove box was empty. I haven't
found the build sheet either.
Later,
Steve
97 Z28
Travis E. Elmore
No confusion, except for a lack of specificity on my part. I was NOT
referring to the dealer sticker, which does NOT have gear ratio on it. I
WAS referring to the service codes three alphanumeric sticker which is
located on the edge of the drivers door, above the latch mechanism. Didn't
realize folks would mistake my reference for new car window wallpaper. <g>
--
Travis E. Elmore
1997 White TransAm WS6
M6, T-Tops, Leather, Monsoon
Nick Horianopoulos <gr...@concentric.net> wrote in article
<32F143...@concentric.net>...
: Travis E. Elmore wrote:
: >
: snip
: >
: > Also, my sticker's on the drivers door, not glove box. Camaro's do it
in
: > the glove box still?
: >
:
:
: I belive that you are confusing the sticker (on window, the "price tag"
: so to speak) and the build sheet (plain computer output in glovebox)
: which is a GM internal document which shows what options were placed on
:
Travis E. Elmore
Sigh.....
I own one. I'm holding the window sticker in my lap as I type. It has
Pontiac in nice red letters in the top right section.
It lists the standard equipment with no gear ratio.
It shows my optional equipment installed by the manufacturer, and states no
gear ratio.
I am a U.S. buyer. Perhaps your friend was looking at one outside the
U.S.?
End of argument?
--
Travis E. Elmore
1997 White TransAm WS6
M6, T-Tops, Leather, Monsoon
JDV5150 <jdv...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970130215...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
: i've seem the rear axle ratio on the stickers of almost all new
:
Demon Cleaner
Googolplex wrote:
>
>> The sticker with the 3 character codes, describing the equipment built into
> the car has been in the glove-box for Z28 Camaros...unless they just changed
> the location on the newest model. This is NOT the Sales sticker (invoice)
> that others are referring to, which is always on the window.
>
> goog...@ripco.com
On my 97 Z28 the sticker is on the driver side door jam. So I assume
they changed it this year.
John Reed
Googolplex wrote:
>
> BufflSoldr (buffl...@aol.com) wrote:
> : >That's what I just love about this newsgroup. . . . It's full of clueless
> : >dweebs who are full of shit. This is total bullshit. There are **no**
> : >stock production 4th Generation LT1 based F-bodies that come with a >3.42
> : axle ratio and an automatic transmission.
>
> : yes the sticker on the window said 3:42. Maybe you should check your
> : sources before you go insulting other people.
>
> you want to add your own observations to this, go back to that car and look in
> the glove-box for the GU code. They make more typos on stickers...if they
> even list the ratio.
> goog...@ripco.com
My best friend just bought a new Z28 (1997) Saturday, and it had
"Performance Axle" with NO ratio listed.
JAMES A JACKSON
Perhaps he was looking at the line pull sheet. The axle
ratio would be listed there.
BufflSoldr
>Plenty of sources by plenty of people have already been checked. Now,
>since you want to add your own observations to this, go back to that car
>and look in the glove-box for the GU code. They make more typos on
>stickers...if they even list the ratio.
I did just what you said, and there was no GU code. (no I'm not just a
moron, I looked with the mechanic at the dealer too) Could this be some
freak car? If yes, maybe I should get my hands on it.
Googolplex
BufflSoldr (buffl...@aol.com) wrote:
: >Plenty of sources by plenty of people have already been checked. Now,
A couple of other people have suggested that '97s no longer have the build
codes on a sticker in the glove box, but instead on the inside of the driver's
door or chassis frame.
Rawhyde100
"Travis E. Elmore" <tr...@concentric.net> wrote:
Sigh.....
I own one. I'm holding the window sticker in my lap as I type. It has
Pontiac in nice red letters in the top right section.
It lists the standard equipment with no gear ratio.
It shows my optional equipment installed by the manufacturer, and states
no
gear ratio.
I have my sticker for a '95 Camaro in my lap. The first option says:
Special Service Package
$3,479.00
Includes:
*5.7 Liter V-8 Engine
*Six-Speed Manual Trans
*Air Conditioning
*Dual Exhaust
*16" Aluminum Wheels
*P245/50ZR16 S/B Rad Tires
*4-Wheel Disc Brakes
*Engine Oil Cooler
*Limited Slip Rear Axle
*3.42 Rear Axle Ratio
*140 Amp Alternator
*Ride & Handling Suspension
System
My axle ratio is on the sticker. I'm not sure if this is because it's a
'95, because it's a Camaro instead of a Firebird, or because of the
Special Service Package. I'm not trying to start a war, but some Camaro's
do have the axle ratio on the sticker. Also, when I ordered mine, I had a
choice of 3.42, 3.23, or 3.08 ratios with the 6 speed. I should have had
the dealer punch it up as an automatic and see if all three ratios were
available. Ordering the Special Service Package is the only way that I'm
aware of to get anything other than a 3.42 axle with a 6 speed in a '94-up
Camaro.
Gary H
On 23 Jan 1997 09:26:03 GMT, goog...@ripco.com (Googolplex) wrote:
>JDV5150 (jdv...@aol.com) wrote:
>: yeah, but i also told you the truth..i could of just said GU6!!
>: i'm not like that....i'm gonna search into it
>
>Don't waste your time "searching"; it's really just trying to let it die....
>Now go the extra step farther and apologize for SCREAMING at us "CLOWNS!"
>(then we'll think better of you)
>
>GU2 = 2.73
>GU5 = 3.23
>GU6 = 3.42
>
> goog...@ripco.com
>
I just bought a '94 Formula and I just checked those codes in the
glove box and it says GU5, so I guess that means I have 3.23s. BTW,
its an automatic. I think all the performance axle equipped cars also
have a leather wrapped steering wheel and shifter. Thats an easy way
of telling without looking in the glovebox.
Patrick Gattafoni
Gary H wrote:
> >
> I just bought a '94 Formula and I just checked those codes in the
> glove box and it says GU5, so I guess that means I have 3.23s. BTW,
> its an automatic. I think all the performance axle equipped cars also
> have a leather wrapped steering wheel and shifter. Thats an easy way
> of telling without looking in the glovebox.
Actually Gary, an even easier way to tell if a 4th gen automatic LT1
f-body has the performance axle or not is to look at the shift pattern
on the console. If it starts with only a 2nd gear position, then it has
the 2.73 gears, if it has selectable 1st gear then it has the 3.23
performance option. BTW, it's great to hear you found the Formula that
you've been wanting for a while! Welcome to the club!
Patrick Gattafoni
95 Trans Am
87 Mustang GT
SWPeters
Canuck cars put the stickers in different places. There is usually a
stamped number on a GM axle, look for it. Also if you go to the dealer
with your vin he can get the ration. I bought a Camaro White Book last
year that is very helpful
JMcalis349
the auto's have a 3:42 and the 6 speed has a 3:42 check your facts . and
don't tell me a article said this and another said that we have had the
little basterd out and changed them.
jason
JMcalis349 at aol
1996 Z28 SS
Googolplex
JMcalis349 (jmcal...@aol.com) wrote:
: the auto's have a 3:42 and the 6 speed has a 3:42 check your facts . and
I hope that was a typo...
The autos have a 2.73 and a 3.23 option; the rest was correct.
Mark A. Cochran
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This is incorrect. 4th gen F-body cars with the auto have either a
2:73 (standard) or 3:23 (performance) rear gear. The M6 does have the
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Mohamed Mohamed
JMcalis349 (jmcal...@aol.com) wrote:
: the auto's have a 3:42 and the 6 speed has a 3:42 check your facts . and
: don't tell me a article said this and another said that we have had the
: little basterd out and changed them.
:
: jason
: JMcalis349 at aol
: 1996 Z28 SS
There is some discrepancy between the way the Firebirds are built and the
way the Camaros are built. The Camaros come with a 3.23 standard on the 6
speeds and optional on the automatics. The Firebirds come with only the
3.43 on the 6 speeds with no option for the performance axel. On the
Firebirds with the auto, you can order the performance axel. This info is
from the product brochures and has been printed as such for at least the
last 3 years.
In case, I'm wrong, forgive me since I'm new to this newsgroup and it
isn't likely that I'm sheding new info on the topic.
_______________________________________________________________________________
"It's as American as a drive-by shooting,
but much less unpleasant"
-- The UK's <CAR> magazine on the new Corvette
Bill Anderson
Here we go again! In 1993 the Z-28's and Formula/TA six-speeds AND auto.'s came stock
w/ 2.73's. The 3.23 axle (not axel) ratio was an option on both M6 and A4 cars.
Starting in 1994 the M6 cars (both Chevy and Pontiac) came solely with the 3.42 gears!
The introduction of skip-shift in 94 mandated a steeper gear for M6 cars as the 2.73
gear would not provide enough torque multiplication when put in fourth gear at 20 mph.
A4 cars from 1993-present were standard with 2.73 and available with a 3.23 gear. If you
own a performance-axle car and take out the gears and count the pinion gear teeth there
will be 13, the ring gear will have 42. 42/13=3.23.
Bill
Trace
> Here we go again! In 1993 the Z-28's and Formula/TA six-speeds AND
auto.'s came stock
> w/ 2.73's. The 3.23 axle (not axel) ratio was an option on both M6 and
A4 cars.
> Starting in 1994 the M6 cars (both Chevy and Pontiac) came solely with
the 3.42 gears!
> The introduction of skip-shift in 94 mandated a steeper gear for M6 cars
as the 2.73
> gear would not provide enough torque multiplication when put in fourth
gear at 20 mph.
> A4 cars from 1993-present were standard with 2.73 and available with a
3.23 gear. If you
> own a performance-axle car and take out the gears and count the pinion
gear teeth there
> will be 13, the ring gear will have 42. 42/13=3.23.
>
> Bill
>
CLAP CLAP CLAP!!! good job Bill. Somebody finally got it right. If
there is one thing that i hate, it is AOLers coming on here and acting like
they know it all. Just follow this thread back and look at all the
misinformation for AOLers!!!
IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, SHUT THE HELL UP!!!
or, at least state it as your OPINION, not fact, and ask for guidance from
someone else.
Trace-
95 Z-28 (A4)
3:23 posi rear
Borla cat back
K+N Cold air
ZR-1 17" rims
GS-C's
Stang 1
>
I just bought a '94 Formula and I just checked those codes in the
glove box and it says GU5, so I guess that means I have 3.23s. BTW,
its an automatic. I think all the performance axle equipped cars also
have a leather wrapped steering wheel and shifter. Thats an easy way
of telling without looking in the glovebox
My performance axle equipped (3.42) 94 Z28 does not have a leather wrapped
steering wheel or shifter.
STANG1
94 Z28 6spd Flowmaster, Edelbrock T.E.S., K/N,
Mark A. Cochran
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Stang 1 <sta...@aol.com> wrote:
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>My performance axle equipped (3.42) 94 Z28 does not have a leather wrapped
>steering wheel or shifter.
>
If you have a 3.42:1 rear, then you've got the M6. Someone will
correct me if I'm wrong, but a 3.42:1 rear with M6 is not a
performance option, it is the standard rear.
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Patrick Gattafoni
Stang 1 wrote:
>
> >
> I just bought a '94 Formula and I just checked those codes in the
> glove box and it says GU5, so I guess that means I have 3.23s. BTW,
> its an automatic. I think all the performance axle equipped cars also
> have a leather wrapped steering wheel and shifter. Thats an easy way
> of telling without looking in the glovebox
>
> steering wheel or shifter.
If you have a 94 or newer 6 speed LT1 f-body, they are always equipped
with a 3.42 axle, this is the only ratio available. In 93 there were two
axles for the 6 speed cars, a 2.73 and a 3.23 and there were also two
different trannies as well, because the 2.73 equipped 6 speed cars got a
shorter first gear ratio (I believe it was 2.95 versus 2.66 for the 3.23
equipped cars).
For those of you that have automatic transmissions and want to know for
sure whether or not you have the 2.73 axle or the 3.23 axle the easiest
way to find out is to look at your shift pattern for the transmission.
If it starts with a 1st gear selection (1-2-3-D), then you have 3.23s.
If you have 2.73 gears like myself, there is no selectable first gear,
the tranny selections go 2-3-D. (I do realize that I can cut out the
nylon stop to make my 1st gear become selectable though).
Patrick Gattafoni
95 Trans Am-2.73 A4
T-roofs, leather, CD, small spoiler
Eibachs, Comp TA ZRs, HPP+, Mobil 1
13.94 at 98.8mph (bone stock time)
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/1320/
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Googolplex
Mark A. Cochran (coc...@netcom.com) wrote:
: In article <19970308204...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
: Stang 1 <sta...@aol.com> wrote:
: >
: >My performance axle equipped (3.42) 94 Z28 does not have a leather wrapped
: >steering wheel or shifter.
: >
: If you have a 3.42:1 rear, then you've got the M6. Someone will
: correct me if I'm wrong, but a 3.42:1 rear with M6 is not a
: performance option, it is the standard rear.
That's correct, and in addition MY '94 Z28 DID COME with a leather wrapped
shifter and steering wheel.