X5 E53 questions about sound system
Sonny
I have purchased an E53 X5 (2005) which will be delivered next week. It has
a 10-speaker HiFi system but would like to replace these with "Boston
speakers".
My questions are:
1] Does anyone know which Bostons speakers will fit
2] Any idea how much this will cost
Thank you for your help.
Sonny
Jim
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Acoustics?)
(2) No
Jim
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Er! Why?
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D.
if you already have a " Harmon Kardon "
sound system , what do you hope to
accomplish by changing the speakers ?
Dick
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Jean-Yves
"D." <wds...@sover.net> wrote:
> " why " is a good question .
> if you already have a " Harmon Kardon "
> sound system , what do you hope to
> accomplish by changing the speakers ?
> Dick
spend more money ;)
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Jean-Yves.
R. Mark Clayton
BMW engineers, know nothing about anything do they? That's why they came up
with a 10 speaker system designed to distribute the sound within the cabin
without resonances etc.
Obviously some cowboys like Transound* can boj in a systems that will sound
a lot better than original equipment ;-} LFTC!
The reality is that it is not normally worth messing around with original
equipment on a BMW - the only things I ever added were hand's free for a
portable phone in 1986 (factory fit on my current car), CB radio in 1988 and
a centre rear brake light when these became legal (standard fit on the last
two cars). Oh yes and a little black box that sometimes went bleep in areas
of high electric field strength...
* as run by Leon Mazurek. They managed to give one of my cars black and
crispy wiring when fitting a burglar alarm. Mr. Mazurek has multiple
convictions, at least two of them unspent (source
http://www.hse.gov.uk/lau/pdfs/lauprosecutions0405.pdf). The current
business of this name may be unconnected with him.
Jeff Strickland
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I have purchased an E53 X5 (2005) which will be delivered next week. It
>>has
>>a 10-speaker HiFi system but would like to replace these with "Boston
>>speakers".
>>
>>My questions are:
>>1] Does anyone know which Bostons speakers will fit
>>2] Any idea how much this will cost
>>
>>Thank you for your help.
>>Sonny
>
>
> Er! Why?
> --
>
I was wondering the same thing.
On the other hand, I know where the take-offs can go ...
Jean-Yves
"Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote:
in my opinion, the hk speakers without the hk amplifier and filters are
nothing worth...
--
Jean-Yves.
sonny
Thank you all for your help.
To answer some of your questions:
1] Typo (sorry) - "Bostons" should be "Boston" or "Boston Accoustics".
2] I didn't know that the 10-speaker system is a HK system. I'm familiar
with the crisp clear Bostons Accoustics sound systems. No, I haven't
listened to the sound in the car yet. It's been purchased at A BMW dealer
with the help of a friend of mine who has his own non-BMW shop. The sound
in my E46 is worthless.
3] The X5 will be shipped to the Netherlands in Europe and was wondering
how much it would cost to replace the speakers in the US and over here in
Europe.
4] Just found out that "Crutchfield" recommends the S55 and SX55 for the
X5.After Price break/rebate the SX55 would cost me $99.99.
Jean-Yves
sonny <so...@somewhere.com> wrote:
standard sound in the e46 is total crap...I had one
hk sound in the e46 is very very nice, but I can't say perfect... I have
one actually...
(it comes from the bass that are "gloudy" ? because the subs are at the
back and too isolated from the cabin. you can't really enhance the other
speakers...
but I read some article (dont remember where) saying that to really
enhance the hk sound system you would have to pay some $5000... and
rethink where the speakers are located...
so I dont think your $100 system is even worth the try...
(it would have been if you had the standard x5 sound system...)
--
Jean-Yves.
Os...@nowhere.com
wrote:
You guys slay me - what do you really buy a "car" for?
If I want to listen to "sounds" I buy a hi-fi set up and sit at home in comfort
to hear and digest what I am listening to.
In a "car" you get all the traffic noise - passengers talking (unless it "show
off time" and " look and listen to what I have") and then there is the
distraction to you - the driver - and CRASH you wipe out some poor soul that
only went to the supermarket for lunch....
Buy a car and drive it Buy a sound system and sit at home listening to it.
Dave Plowman (News)
R. Mark Clayton <nospam...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> The reality is that it is not normally worth messing around with
> original equipment on a BMW
Don't be silly. The OEM sound system on the E39 is pretty poor given the
cost. The E34 had better sounding basic speakers from the factory.
Dunno if this applies to the X5, though.
--
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Dave Plowman da...@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
Dave Plowman (News)
> If I want to listen to "sounds" I buy a hi-fi set up and sit at home in
> comfort to hear and digest what I am listening to.
Bet you never listen at home either.
> In a "car" you get all the traffic noise - passengers talking (unless it
> "show off time" and " look and listen to what I have") and then there is
> the distraction to you - the driver - and CRASH you wipe out some poor
> soul that only went to the supermarket for lunch....
If that happens to you, you shouldn't be driving. Radios have been fitted
to cars for nearly a century and there is no evidence they distract the
driver - unlike using mobile phones.
> Buy a car and drive it
You only drive for pleasure on empty challenging roads? Never hit traffic
jams? Do long journeys on a motorway?
> Buy a sound system and sit at home listening to
> it.
Just stay at home.
--
*A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking *
Jean-Yves
> If I want to listen to "sounds" I buy a hi-fi set up and sit at home in
> comfort
> to hear and digest what I am listening to.
I have one at home... and one in the car !
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Jean-Yves.
R. Mark Clayton
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> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:21:06 +0200, Jean-Yves
> <no-pub-fo...@free.fr>
> wrote:
>
>
> You guys slay me - what do you really buy a "car" for?
>
> If I want to listen to "sounds" I buy a hi-fi set up and sit at home in
> comfort
> to hear and digest what I am listening to.
>
> In a "car" you get all the traffic noise - passengers talking (unless it
> "show
> off time" and " look and listen to what I have") and then there is the
> distraction to you - the driver - and CRASH you wipe out some poor soul
> that
> only went to the supermarket for lunch....
>
> Buy a car and drive it Buy a sound system and sit at home listening to it.
>
>
If I am driving seriously then I don't have the radio on, or just TA's.
In traffic or cruising on the motorway then I tend to listen to stuff as a
background, but not devote serious attention to it as I might when at home.
A hi-fi consists of three sections: -
The source
The amp
The speakers
To a first approximation "the amp" was sorted in the early seventies when
low noise high fidelity transistor amplifiers became common.
To a first approximation "the source" was sorted in the mid eighties* when
CD's came out.
Speakers remain the main obstacle to decent listening. In a house only the
space available and your budget represent an obstacle to having good
speakers, but in a car there are serious space constraints, the cabin is not
ideal for listening (both front seats are off centre for a start) and
usually the maker has fitted some (and a combined TV/radio/GPS/computer)
already. This makes replacing the factory fit with anything significantly
better both messy and very expensive. I normally listen to my home stereo
on "direct", but in the car it is probably cheaper to fiddle with the tone,
fade and balance controls to get the setup you want rather spend $$$$ on a
setup up that is unlikely to produce significantly different results. I
suppose you can get better base if you use the entire boot as a resonant
cavity...
* when CD's first came out I could easily tell whether an FM radio station
was playing a CD or vinyl (on its very expensive decks) while driving at
??mph in a 735iSE on the M6. This was despite FM transmission, a fairly
plain radio, road noise and IIRC factory speakers!
sonny
Again, thank you very much for the info. Guess it would be better to
spend my money on a nice set of wheels :-)
Oscar, don't smoke or use a mobile/cellphone and don't fall asleep in the
car when you get bored :-)
Indeed, if YOU get distracted by "any noise" in your car, you shouldn't
drive at all. Next thing you'll do is blame the noise coming from
outside.
I would never compare the sound in a car to the sound of my home stereo.
The're two completely different things. Both produce sound, but for
different surroundings. It's like comparing a Smart and a Ferrari :-)
Hell, even the Klipsch system hooked up to my Mac is way better than the
crappy system in my E46.
Merci, thank you, danke :-)
Sonny
Os...@nowhere.com
wrote:
Dave
I am just trying to decide what is the prime reason for buying a car.
Yes - I do listen to the radio, CD/DVD etc and yes I do get bored in slow
traffic and do rely on traffic reports etc.
I do hate the crap radios of the 50s and 60s and 70s and do enjoy the sound
systems fitted to my 'old' Rover 800 Mk1 & Mk2 and my 'old' BMW 7 series E38 and
my new E65.
However, my reason for buying a car is not dependent on the sound system
although I would probably question the exorbitant price of an E65 if it had an
Amstrad £29.95 stereo fitted as standard equipment.
Os...@nowhere.com
>Hi all,
>
>Again, thank you very much for the info. Guess it would be better to
>spend my money on a nice set of wheels :-)
>
>Oscar, don't smoke or use a mobile/cellphone and don't fall asleep in the
>car when you get bored :-)
>Indeed, if YOU get distracted by "any noise" in your car, you shouldn't
>drive at all. Next thing you'll do is blame the noise coming from
>outside.
I was hinting at those tossers driving Peugeot 205 with drain pipe exhaust
tail-pipes and a stock engine and brakes with £2000 worth of wheels and another
£1000 of sound system that only drive between supermarket car parks at 9pm to
show off with their mates and can't really afford the insurance and petrol to
actually get there.
sonny
We're talking about BMW's, not some shitty Peugot :-)
Anyway, enough about sound systems for the X5, unless someone has
something special to share with us :-)))
Thanks everyone.
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Dave Plowman (News)
sonny <so...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> Anyway, enough about sound systems for the X5, unless someone has
> something special to share with us :-)))
I'd say unless a firm has spent time designing speakers for the BMW
enclosures you'd be lucky to improve things by simply changing for
general purpose drivers.
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sonny
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> In article <Xns9B083F1C...@69.16.176.254>,
> sonny <so...@somewhere.com> wrote:
>> Anyway, enough about sound systems for the X5, unless someone has
>> something special to share with us :-)))
>
> I'd say unless a firm has spent time designing speakers for the BMW
> enclosures you'd be lucky to improve things by simply changing for
> general purpose drivers.
>
You're right Dave. I had better sound in BMW 320i E36. I had a Pioneer cd
changer, MB speakers (not sure about the brand) and a small amplifier. The
sound could have been better with other speakers, but I didn't want to
spend more money on this.
What I'm trying to say is "Why the hell did BMW decide to screw us and have
us choose between their three sound systems: "Crap", "A lot more Crap" and
"A shitload of Crap".
It seems like Audi is one of the few top-of-the-line German auto
manufacturers who still lets the driver decide which sound system he/she
wishes to install.