what Limited Slip Differential is X5 & 330 4wd using?

[chin-fan so]

I have been searching news groups & BMW web site & other car site, but still
cannot find what Limited Slip Differential is X5 & 330 4wd using, can anyone
tell me?

Thanks a lot.

[Ignace van Tienen]

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Hi, I thought that they did not use a limited slip diff.
The sensors/brakes of DSC will slow down the wheels that have no grip.
That's why the X5 is not really equiped for rough terrain.

Ignace

[Jürgen Schrader]

The X5 (3.0 and 4.4 ) have definitively no limited slip diff. They use
ASC-X and ADB-X for bringing the power to the wheels. The disadvantage
of lim-slip-diffs is easy to feel in normal street use. The faster you
get the more unstable your car will be, because the diffs try to bring
the same power to each wheel. Another point is, that your car handles
bad. The X5 is designed for street-use and light off-road. It is no
classic off-roader. For purposes like this drive an Landrover defender!
The X5 is designed to run >200 km/h with perfect handling and perfect
stability. Not for travelling through deserts. (BTW: in germany >95% of
all 4wd cars never see off-road!!)

Jürgen
chin-fan so schrieb:

[CMW]

You never felt it cuz it's not there...
BMW quit using LSD with the introduction of ASC+T. Even that system, which
is quite primitive compared to the system on your 99 M3, is far better than
any mechanical LSD system. LSD also shortens the life of the diff, rear
tires, and rear suspension components, and hurts fuel economy and
emissions - the electronic systems do not have these drawbacks. Nobody uses
LSD anymore, except Ford, I think.

--
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Speed costs money - how fast can you afford to go?
"norm kaplan" <nkap...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
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> I never felt the LSD in my '99///M3 coupe and it never felt unstable. If
> that were true,
> why would they put in the M cars. I wish the 540i had LSD.
>
> Rgds,
> Norm
>
>
> Jürgen Schrader <Juergen...@t-online.de> wrote in message
> news:39206A51...@t-online.de...

[norm kaplan]

[Ignace van Tienen]

CMW <nos...@nomail.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
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> You never felt it cuz it's not there...
> BMW quit using LSD with the introduction of ASC+T. Even that system,
which
> is quite primitive compared to the system on your 99 M3, is far better
than
> any mechanical LSD system. LSD also shortens the life of the diff, rear
> tires, and rear suspension components, and hurts fuel economy and
> emissions - the electronic systems do not have these drawbacks. Nobody
uses
> LSD anymore, except Ford, I think.

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What about the new (E46) M3 ?
I thought it has a limited slip diff ?

Ignace

[Robert Rasetina]

CMW wrote:

> You never felt it cuz it's not there...
> BMW quit using LSD with the introduction of ASC+T. Even that system, which is
> quite primitive compared to the system on your 99 M3, is far better than any
> mechanical LSD system. LSD also shortens the life of the diff, rear tires,
> and rear suspension components, and hurts fuel economy and emissions - the
> electronic systems do not have these drawbacks. Nobody uses LSD anymore,
> except Ford, I think.

M3 doesn't have ASC+T for sure, and, AFAIK, still has (or had, since we're
talking about E36, right?) LSD.
--
....l8r....Roby....

[x]

CMW wrote in message ...

>You never felt it cuz it's not there...
>BMW quit using LSD with the introduction of ASC+T

Maybe you should quit using LSD long enough to keep yourself from posting
bullshit wrong
information that you just made up to try to make yourself sound smart.
Guess what? Of the many hundreds of billions of people who will read the
crap you post, there are two or three who will actually be able to tell you
are not smart.

Don't respond if you don't know.

That should be a simple enough idea for you to follow.

Yeah, I know "hundreds of billions".................

[norm kaplan]

Fact: my 99///M3 had both ASC+T and LSD.
Rgds,
Norm

Robert Rasetina <rras...@loginet.hr> wrote in message
news:3921655A...@loginet.hr...

> CMW wrote:
>
> > You never felt it cuz it's not there...

[norm kaplan]

Fact: My 99///M3 had LSD. Many performance vehicles use it.

CMW <nos...@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:DJ0U4.74$273....@nnrp3.sbc.net...

> You never felt it cuz it's not there...
> BMW quit using LSD with the introduction of ASC+T. Even that system,
which
> is quite primitive compared to the system on your 99 M3, is far better
than
> any mechanical LSD system. LSD also shortens the life of the diff, rear
> tires, and rear suspension components, and hurts fuel economy and
> emissions - the electronic systems do not have these drawbacks. Nobody
uses
> LSD anymore, except Ford, I think.
>

> --
> CMW
> Speed costs money - how fast can you afford to go?
> "norm kaplan" <nkap...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
> news:Xq0U4.11886$OP1....@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...

[chin-fan so]

I think the LSD Quattro is not as bad as u said, check it out here:
http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/lancia/58/technical_school/traction/t
ech_traction_4wd_2.htm#Torsen

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my home page: http://members.home.net/29098136226/

[Robert Rasetina]

norm kaplan wrote:

> Fact: my 99///M3 had both ASC+T and LSD.
> Rgds,
> Norm

I suppose your M3 is then an "M3", or US excuse for a real M3. European M3s
never had ASC+T, I'm not sure what's the deal with US versions.
--
....l8r....Roby....

[CMW]

Why did you think that? Advertising, or assumption? I haven't seen or
heard anything saying that it did, and since there are none to look at yet,
I can't be certain. However, the argument still stands: electronic
traction control is far superior to limited slip diffs. Why would they
backstep 15 years technology wise on one part, when the rest of the car is
the most advanced stuff on the market? I'll have to look into that tho -
might learn something...

--
CMW
Speed costs money - how fast can you afford to go?

"Ignace van Tienen" <sb05...@worldonline.nl> wrote in message
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>
> CMW <nos...@nomail.com> schreef in berichtnieuws

> DJ0U4.74$273....@nnrp3.sbc.net...
> > You never felt it cuz it's not there...
> > BMW quit using LSD with the introduction of ASC+T. Even that system,
> which
> > is quite primitive compared to the system on your 99 M3, is far better
> than
> > any mechanical LSD system. LSD also shortens the life of the diff, rear
> > tires, and rear suspension components, and hurts fuel economy and
> > emissions - the electronic systems do not have these drawbacks. Nobody
> uses
> > LSD anymore, except Ford, I think.
>
>