Opinions on 10V 200TQ?
DieMarthaDie
yeah...
I'm looking for opinions on the 200TQ (prefer Avant) from '89/'90 with the 10V
engine. I'd prefer the 20V '91, but I require the Avant and my money is busy
buying groceries... 2 dogs and 2 babies mean I need the Avant, replacing my
Grand Wagoneer means it must be a Q.
General experiences, opinions, major areas of concern?
On a more complex note... ease of conversion to 20V head? That's a distant
concern, of course, but ya gotta ask ;)
Thanks!
John
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conversion. There are no available parts to convert it. Nobody is
parting with a 20V head. 10V engine is CIS, 20V car is Motronic.
Conversion would cost more than buying another car. You'll need
intake, exhaust, all plumbing, induction, intercooler, etc. If you
want a 20V, but a 20V.
Do a search here, there was a very nice one (91 20V Avant)
advertised in this group recently. It was a little higher priced, but
it sounded liked a very well cared for car.
On 31 Dec 2001 02:32:25 GMT, diemar...@aol.comscca (DieMarthaDie)
wrote:
DieMarthaDie
>Wagoneer? The more I see those the more I like them! I would like to pick
>up a '91 when it comes time to replace my Cherokee. The XJ is too damn
>small these days and buying a sweet Wagoneer wouldn't cost much.....
You want my '89? It wasn't well cared for before I got it... I've fixed a lot,
almost all of it, but am sick of stopping at every other gas station. We don't
need it's towing capacity for our tiny sailboat, and the Avant has almost as
much interior space. I have a pickup for hauling.
<if you really want one> Jeep has dk blue metallic paint (redone 2 yrs ago),
water pump, fan clutch, carb rebuild, shocks, AC overhauled and recharged, misc
underhood bits, 119k miles, third owner, second with dogs and kids... <end
commercial>
>>General experiences, opinions, major areas of concern?
>
>The Avant's have no more or less problems than the sedans. Cooling,
>steering rack, electrical, driveline, CV joints are all areas to watch out
>for. The engine will be good for 200,000+ miles if properly maintained.
>
>If you are on a budget the car might not be the best choice, it might be
>cheap to acquire but replacing parts can put you into the poor house
>fast.... Back to the Wagoneer, it may cost more to buy a good example up
>front but repairs will be simple and cheap.
Advice appreciated. It won't be my first Audi, however, and I have some
comfort level with working on them, my local shop (most of them drive Audis),
and my local wholesaler for most parts. Yep, it will still be more expensive,
but that 10V motor won't be as thirsty as that 360 4-bbl V8!
The only real area of concern for me, expressed earlier on my last car hunt, is
the turbo zone. No experience with turbo motors, but not afraid to learn... in
advance!
It's unfortunate that there is a CIS/Motronic difference in the 10V-20V motors.
Thanks to the other person that posted that. I see that TAP and some others
offer 10V upgrades...for future consideration.
Thanks,
John
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wrote:
>
>The only real area of concern for me, expressed earlier on my last car hunt, is
>the turbo zone. No experience with turbo motors, but not afraid to learn... in
>advance!
>
>It's unfortunate that there is a CIS/Motronic difference in the 10V-20V motors.
> Thanks to the other person that posted that. I see that TAP and some others
>offer 10V upgrades...for future consideration.
>
>Thanks,
>
>John
Don't sweat the Turbo cars. Turbos rarely fail. I have not replaced
one in years, and most of my customers run overboost. I own two Turbo
sedans and now a V8. Turbo's get 25-ish on the highway, V8 gets 20.
In the city it's 18-ish versus 12. Both have similar top speed. V8
has lots of torque. If you do get a 10V turbo, do the upgrade. At
230HP, it's a whole new ball game. And it doesn't affect your
mileage.
Indeed the 20V Turbo is more desirable, as upgrades push it into the
300 range, but Avant 20V Turbos are rare. It was an excellent car in
1991, and was not available again until the 1995 S6. I jut saw a 1995
S6 Avant go through Manheim.
Newsfeed
If you're looking to upgrade from a 10V to a 20V, I am selling my 1991
200 (20V) Turbo Quattro Avant. Rare pearl white exterior, graphite
leather interior in excellent condition. 102K miles, original and
meticulous owner. 516-365-2408
Mr. Sabre
>That is true, my '89 regularly gets 23MPG around town and 26MPG on the
>highway. Not bad for a heavy German car!
Plus, if you do any upgrades, the mileage gets even weirder; my 20v
turbo gets around 14 in town and over 28 on the highway.
>The turbo from what I have read is one of the more reliable items. Regular
>oil changes seems to be the only requirement for a good turbo. Though if
>someone monkeyed around with the after-run turbo cooler I would worry. I
>once saw a 200 on eBay with a picture of the engine, the after-run cooler
>was completely bi-passed... I feel sorry for the new owner.
I remember seeing that one after someone mentioned it on this group.
What would the practical purpose be for doing something like that, though?
There are no apparent benefits.
Ian D. Blake
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'91 200 Avant
>--
>Taylor
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drive around one Winstar Phaser tires? Because cheap bastards are
everywhere, that's why.
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 22:13:30 -0500, "Mr. Sabre" <pho...@neobright.net>
wrote:
Anonymous
but in Taylor's case maybe his perv pal Gary from alt.usenet.kooks
secretly filled his tank.