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GWD

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Feb 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/19/99
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What kind (not brand) do most people use on antique cars?
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George Davidson

John M. Wright

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Feb 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/19/99
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GWD wrote:

Can't say for most people, however, if we are doing a true restoration,
factory type enamels are used. Problem is most of the paints made in the
early 1900s, used production processes that were very bad
environmentally and can't be made now, so come as close as possible. If
it is a show car, trying to achieve a perfect appearance, then we use
lacquer and lots of it !!!.

John


asterix

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Feb 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/19/99
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Nitrocellulose Lacquer is oldest then came Acrylic Lacquer then Enamel (on
cars) . What year/make/brand-car are you referring to.As an antique?
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Tod Fitch

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Feb 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/19/99
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asterix wrote:
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> Nitrocellulose Lacquer is oldest then came Acrylic Lacquer then Enamel (on

<snip>

Nitrocellulose lacquer is not the oldest having been introduced in the
1920's. (1924 Oakland comes to mind as the first "Duco" finished car,
but my memory on this is probably wrong.) Prior to that "coach painting"
was used for colors other than black. This was brushed on then rubbed
down with a pumice. Many coats were needed and the paint was slow
drying. A good quality paint job took literally weeks to apply. This was
a huge problem in the high volume manufacturing of cars.

Henry Ford found a paint that could be hosed on (excess dripped off into
catch basins to be reused). Only one coat was needed. The problems? 1)
The finish was not very up to our modern standards (it was apparently a
very durable coating, just not as smooth and shiney as we are now used
to). 2) You could have any color you wanted as long as it was black.

asterix

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Feb 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/19/99
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opps didnt know i had to go back in time (Paleolithic age/25,000 years ago)
paint was a mechanical mixture of white lead and linseed oil . now its
specially prepared for many purposes. the best exterior paints are
compounded from lead carbonate and /or sulphate,zink
oxide,titaniumoxide,inert,and coloring pigments,linseedoil,soybean
oil,dehydrated castor oil and other seed oils,metallic driers,turpentine,and
mineral spirits.on and on and on . Short version-clean-sand-dust
off-prime-putty-sand-dust off-filler-stain guide coat-rub-wash-dust-coat
lead-rub - dust-2nd coat lead-knifing lead rub-powdered
pumice/w/water-wash-coat w/japan color-rub-jap/varnish-rub-dust-rub w/
color-rub-wash-clear-rub-wash-varnish-wash-polish=ready11 coats and 20 days
later old method.
Better yet take the car to a shop and let them paint it . you get what you
pay for. each car and its owner is different do the car the way you want, go
with lacquer if its old -enamel if its not to old -base coat clear coat if
it gives you thr desired look you wish to achieve.
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Tod Fitch

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Feb 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/19/99
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asterix,

Sorry to sound like I jumped on your answer... No harm/slight/offense
was intended ;-)

The original question was what kind of paint do most people use on
antique cars. The answer by John seemed reasonable to me.

Your post extended the information to give a progression of the types of
paint used at the factory, an answer to a slightly different question. I
felt that your remark might have left a person new to the antique car
field with an erroneous belief that all cars came from the factory spray
painted. I just extended your seven decade history a few more decades.

Cheers,
Tod

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