150 <> 155 HP

gman

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Feb 4, 2001, 11:43:38 AM2/4/01

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What is it with dealers these days? Went to the Alfa dealer last week, and
started talking to this sales person about the SportWagon 2.0 Selespeed.
Asked him about the new emision regulations, and asked him whether this was
the reason that the engine was taken down to 150 hp. They guy looked at me
and said: nono you're wrong, only the 147 2.0 engine will have 150 hp;the
156 and the therefore the sportwagon as well will still have 155 hp. I tried
to explain to him that he was the one who was wrong, but in vain... These
guys do get training and updates of specs right?? or maybe i'm wrong
indeed. By the way, what about performance of these new(~) 150hp engines?

ps. I'm very glad I finally found this news group. my previous provider
didn't show this news group, so I could only ask my questions in nl.auto.
Nice people there, but I kinda got tired of the answer "Yeah well, it is an
Alfa, so..." all the time. :)

G.
156 1.9 JTD (soon: 2.0 SW selesp.)

G.J.

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Feb 4, 2001, 1:02:03 PM2/4/01

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"gman" <gy...@chello.nl> schreef in bericht
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> What is it with dealers these days? Went to the Alfa dealer last week, and
> started talking to this sales person about the SportWagon 2.0 Selespeed.
> Asked him about the new emision regulations, and asked him whether this
was
> the reason that the engine was taken down to 150 hp. They guy looked at me
> and said: nono you're wrong, only the 147 2.0 engine will have 150 hp;the
> 156 and the therefore the sportwagon as well will still have 155 hp. I
tried
> to explain to him that he was the one who was wrong, but in vain... These
> guys do get training and updates of specs right??

I doubt; it seems to be personal interrest!?

> or maybe i'm wrong indeed. By the way, what about performance of these
new(~) 150hp
> engines?

These are the specs:

Motorizzazione 2.0
- Codice versione carrozzeria - Berlina 932A2100 28
- Codice versione carrozzeria - Sportwagon 932B2100 35
- Marcatura motore AR32310
- Cilindrata totale 1970 cm³
- Potenza massima CEE 110 kW (150 CV)
- Regime corrispondente 6300 giri/min.
- Coppia massima CEE 181 Nm (18,5 kgm)
- Regime corrispondente 3800 giri/min.
- Distribuzione 2ACT con variatore di fase
- Alimentazione Iniezione elettronica M.P.I. BOSCH ME7.3.1.
- Accensione Elettronica, statica, integrata con l'iniezione
- Velocità massima - Berlina/Sportwagon 214 km/h

Motorizzazione 2.0 Selespeed
- Codice versione carrozzeria - Berlina 932A2101 29
- Codice versione carrozzeria - Sportwagon 932B2101 36
- Marcatura motore AR32310
- Cilindrata totale 1970 cm³
- Potenza massima CEE 110 kW (150 CV)
- Regime corrispondente 6300 giri/min.
- Coppia massima CEE 181 Nm (18,5kgm)
- Regime corrispondente 3800 giri/min.
- Distribuzione 2ACT con variatore di fase
- Alimentazione Iniezione elettronica M.P.I. BOSCH ME7.3.1
- Accensione Elettronica, statica, integrata con l'iniezione
- Velocità massima - Berlina/Sportwagon 214 km/h

The "old" spec:
155HP @ 6400rpm
187kgm @ 3500rpm
topspeed 216km/h
enginenmbr AR32301
body 932A2000 03 or 932A2000 12 (4-door manual)
body 932A2001 04 or 932A2001 16 (4-door selespeed)
body 932B2000 20 (SW manual)
body 932B2001 21 (SW selespeed)
--
Gert-Jan from Holland
(156) SW 1.8

Mika Rajamäki

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Feb 5, 2001, 12:05:38 PM2/5/01

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> These guys do get training and updates of specs right?? or maybe i'm
wrong
> indeed.

When I ordered my Selespeed SW last November, I test-drove the 155 bhp
version. I learned from this NG that the engine had lost 5 bhp because of
the
new regulations. My dealer never told me about it, not even when I picked
the
car up last week. I'll bet they haven't got a clue even now.

> By the way, what about performance of these new(~) 150hp engines?

First impression: the power-burst of 3500 rpm is gone. But the engine seems
more torquey on low rpms.

The car has only 300 kms on it so far, and it's been too cold (below -20 C)
to
really try it out...

Mika
Finland

G.J.

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Feb 5, 2001, 4:01:36 PM2/5/01

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I haven't driven a 150HP 156 yet, but what I heard from my dealer, the boost
at 3500rpm is gone, but in place has come a lot more power under 3500rpm.
This is the same that Dutch magazine AutoVisie said after having driven the
147 2.0 150HP

--
Gert-Jan from Holland
(156) SW 1.8

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Jeff Kerridge

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Feb 7, 2001, 2:59:22 PM2/7/01

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HI
I have a 150 bhp 2.0 156 and now run in it drives very nicely indeed. No
lack of power , smooth engine and lovely noise!
Enjoy
Jeff K
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