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firewolf

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Apr 6, 2007, 11:25:50 AM4/6/07
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04 TSX AT @ 26K

The car is overdue for 25K (or 20K ?) service
Should I do a full ATF flush/change ?
And can any ordinary, non-dealership shop do this ? (meaning do they has the
proper equiptments)
How much does it cost on average ?

thanks


motsco_

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Apr 6, 2007, 12:58:28 PM4/6/07
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Don't use the word FLUSH when describing a Honda or Acura. You NEVER
'power flush' that kind of tranny.

Take the OEM fluid to your mechanic (or Monkey-Lube) and have them drain
and refill. I'd do it again a week later also, since you can never
change ALL the fluid. I actually do it THREE times on any used car I
buy, but yours is fairly new.

'Curly'

firewolf

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Apr 6, 2007, 2:02:33 PM4/6/07
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"motsco_"

> Don't use the word FLUSH when describing a Honda or Acura. You NEVER
> 'power flush' that kind of tranny.
>
> Take the OEM fluid to your mechanic (or Monkey-Lube) and have them drain
> and refill. I'd do it again a week later also, since you can never change
> ALL the fluid. I actually do it THREE times on any used car I buy, but
> yours is fairly new.
>
> 'Curly'

Really ?
not supposed to flush the tranny with one of those fancy power-flush
equiptment I read about
?
why ?


John Horner

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Apr 6, 2007, 9:22:02 PM4/6/07
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The Honda owners and service manual specifically say to use multiple
drain-fill-drive cycles to do a complete transmission fluid change.
Four times over, in fact. Also it is important to use the right fluid,
which unfortunately is only sold by Honda/Acura dealers, ATF-Z1. The
Honda method is quite easy to do, if time consuming. Shops love the
flush machines because they are fast, but I suspect Honda has some good
reason for not wanting the machine used.

I do this change out cycle once every 30k miles on our Honda/Acuras.

John

motsco_

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Apr 6, 2007, 11:06:31 PM4/6/07
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Murphy's Law states that they have an 80% chance of hooking it up
BACKWARDS, which would back-flush the contents of the internal filter
throughout the whole tranny :-(

'Curly'

Ron Marraccini

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Apr 7, 2007, 3:36:58 AM4/7/07
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Is there some reason why my Acura dealer here in PDX
would recommend a $150.00 flush when it's not
supposed to be done?

Other than a $$$ motive that is.
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Gordon McGrew

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Apr 7, 2007, 9:26:07 AM4/7/07
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On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 00:36:58 -0700, "Ron Marraccini"
<ro...@ramlegal.com> wrote:

>Is there some reason why my Acura dealer here in PDX
>would recommend a $150.00 flush when it's not
>supposed to be done?
>
>Other than a $$$ motive that is.

What other motive does he need?

motsco_

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Apr 7, 2007, 9:45:18 AM4/7/07
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If there's another motive out there, I'd like to hear it too!

'Curly'

Ron Marraccini

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Apr 7, 2007, 11:51:31 AM4/7/07
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Wouldn't they be liable for any damage caused?


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motsco_

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Apr 8, 2007, 1:53:36 PM4/8/07
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Ron Marraccini wrote:
> Wouldn't they be liable for any damage caused?
>
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Read page four of this Honda bulletin:

http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SN/a060200.PDF


'Curly'

John Horner

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Apr 9, 2007, 1:46:45 AM4/9/07
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Ron Marraccini wrote:
> Is there some reason why my Acura dealer here in PDX
> would recommend a $150.00 flush when it's not
> supposed to be done?
>
> Other than a $$$ motive that is.

I doubt it! Those machines are big money makers.

Ron Marraccini

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Apr 9, 2007, 2:49:25 PM4/9/07
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Hi,

I see that this article applies to "aftermarket" flushing.

My Acura dealer gave me two options;

1) Drain & refill Transmission- $50.00 (don't know if it's 1-2-3 times or
what?)
2) Transmission flush - $150.00 (recommended by them)

The transmission was already replaced once @ 28,000 via warrantee.

I am in a quandary as to what course to follow as I don't want the tranny
screwed up.

Thanks.


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John Horner

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Apr 13, 2007, 4:43:34 PM4/13/07
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Ron Marraccini wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I see that this article applies to "aftermarket" flushing.
>
> My Acura dealer gave me two options;
>
> 1) Drain & refill Transmission- $50.00 (don't know if it's 1-2-3 times or
> what?)
> 2) Transmission flush - $150.00 (recommended by them)
>
> The transmission was already replaced once @ 28,000 via warrantee.
>
> I am in a quandary as to what course to follow as I don't want the tranny
> screwed up.
>
> Thanks.
>
>

I would call Acura customer care and talk to them about your dealer.
Alternatively, find a Honda or Acura dealer who will do the job by the
book. All flushing is aftermarket flushing since Acura doesn't approve
of or supply such equipment. Just because a dealer does the job doesn't
mean they are using Acura approved methods or materials.

John

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