Die, power window switch, DIE!
Desertphile
Tahoe 4x4 two-door. I pressed the "down" section of the 6-prong
illuminated beveled switch for the driver's side window and it
shorted out---- tripping the circuit breaker every few seconds. I
used my Bowie knife to pry the switch off the door and cut the red
wire (which was hot to touch: thank Dan'l Boone I had the knife).
Damn odd thing, -NONE- of the on-line auto parts ordering catelogs
show the correct switch: for example, Rock Auto shows a switch
that is fundamentally different.
Now there are two switches attached to the wire harness, one for
"Up" and one for "Down," since I cannot find a replacement switch.
Why does the universe hate me so?
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Martin Riddle
"Desertphile" <deser...@invalid-address.net> wrote in message
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Rock Auto was good for a mirror switch for me, are you sure you looked
it up right?
Might wanna look around and get the AC delco # then start with that.
Cheers
Desertphile
<marti...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
> "Desertphile" <deser...@invalid-address.net> wrote in message
> news:0r90a5h513sc1lbfu...@4ax.com...
> > Life sucks, and so do the power window switches in my 1997 Chevy
> > Tahoe 4x4 two-door. I pressed the "down" section of the 6-prong
> > illuminated beveled switch for the driver's side window and it
> > shorted out---- tripping the circuit breaker every few seconds. I
> > used my Bowie knife to pry the switch off the door and cut the red
> > wire (which was hot to touch: thank Dan'l Boone I had the knife).
> >
> > Damn odd thing, -NONE- of the on-line auto parts ordering catelogs
> > show the correct switch: for example, Rock Auto shows a switch
> > that is fundamentally different.
> >
> > Now there are two switches attached to the wire harness, one for
> > "Up" and one for "Down," since I cannot find a replacement switch.
> >
> > Why does the universe hate me so?
> Rock Auto was good for a mirror switch for me, are you sure you looked
> it up right?
You mean, am I an idiot who has made the same mistake eight or
nine times?
> Might wanna look around and get the AC delco # then start with that.
None of the switches listed in eight on-line catalogs for all
years for the Tahoe, Suburban, and Blazer match what's on my
vehicle. The on-line stores appear to be using the same catalog
database and the same suppliers.
Nightcrawler
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Martin Riddle
"Desertphile" <deser...@invalid-address.net> wrote in message
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I wasn�t implying that.
Perhaps 97 is a mishmashed year for parts. 95 is the first year for the
body style change. 96 I believe added a passenger side air bag. I don�t
think 97 is that much different. Was this the last year for the 2dr?
The switches come on an assembly.
Does it look like this?
<http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1268787>
Dorman # 901048
This is what is in my 95 2dr.
Cheers
Desertphile
<marti...@verizon.net> wrote:
Greetings again, and thank you again. The image (your link) is
nothing like what's in my vehicle, even though that is what the
on-line catalogs show as being correct. Hilarious, ain't it? It
just cracks me up. None of the switches on that assembly look like
the switches on my 1997 Tahoe, and the assembly doesn't fit in the
Tahoe--- there's just a rectangle beveled switch with a concave
arrow pointing down, and a convex arrow pointing up. It looks like
the 1988 Chevy pickup's power window switch, only with one more
connector.
Maybe I'll just take it to a dealer and have the dealer worry
about getting the correct switch.
Martin Riddle
"Desertphile" <deser...@invalid-address.net> wrote in message
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Odd indeed. Dealer would know hopefully. If not there should be a GM
number on the switch, Or you could try to see if it was a 98 or some
other s10 switch that was substituted instead..
Cheers
Desertphile
<deser...@invalid-address.net> wrote:
> Life sucks, and so do the power window switches in my 1997 Chevy
> Tahoe 4x4 two-door. I pressed the "down" section of the 6-prong
> illuminated beveled switch for the driver's side window and it
> shorted out---- tripping the circuit breaker every few seconds. I
> used my Bowie knife to pry the switch off the door and cut the red
> wire (which was hot to touch: thank Dan'l Boone I had the knife).
>
> Damn odd thing, -NONE- of the on-line auto parts ordering catelogs
> show the correct switch: for example, Rock Auto shows a switch
> that is fundamentally different.
>
> Now there are two switches attached to the wire harness, one for
> "Up" and one for "Down," since I cannot find a replacement switch.
>
> Why does the universe hate me so?
For the past 60+ days I have been trying to find a replacement
switch with no luck at all. The best I can do is buy a five-prong
switch that looks like the dead switch I have in my vehicle, and
hope it fits and works the same.
Steve W.
> On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:07:05 -0600, Desertphile
> <deser...@invalid-address.net> wrote:
>
>> Life sucks, and so do the power window switches in my 1997 Chevy
>> Tahoe 4x4 two-door. I pressed the "down" section of the 6-prong
>> illuminated beveled switch for the driver's side window and it
>> shorted out---- tripping the circuit breaker every few seconds. I
>> used my Bowie knife to pry the switch off the door and cut the red
>> wire (which was hot to touch: thank Dan'l Boone I had the knife).
>>
>> Damn odd thing, -NONE- of the on-line auto parts ordering catelogs
>> show the correct switch: for example, Rock Auto shows a switch
>> that is fundamentally different.
>>
>> Now there are two switches attached to the wire harness, one for
>> "Up" and one for "Down," since I cannot find a replacement switch.
>>
>> Why does the universe hate me so?
>
> For the past 60+ days I have been trying to find a replacement
> switch with no luck at all. The best I can do is buy a five-prong
> switch that looks like the dead switch I have in my vehicle, and
> hope it fits and works the same.
>
>
Could you possibly post a pic of your old switch online?
Or the GM part number on it?
How many switches do you have on the drivers side?
I can only think of 4 switches that GM used from 1995 through 2003. Most
of them use the same switch assemblies for two and 4 door, they just
don't have the two rockers for the missing windows installed.
--
Steve W.
Nightcrawler
"Desertphile" <deser...@invalid-address.net> wrote in message news:07gef59pbs4frop2i...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:07:05 -0600, Desertphile
> <deser...@invalid-address.net> wrote:
>
>> Life sucks, and so do the power window switches in my 1997 Chevy
>> Tahoe 4x4 two-door. I pressed the "down" section of the 6-prong
>> illuminated beveled switch for the driver's side window and it
>> shorted out---- tripping the circuit breaker every few seconds. I
>> used my Bowie knife to pry the switch off the door and cut the red
>> wire (which was hot to touch: thank Dan'l Boone I had the knife).
>>
>> Damn odd thing, -NONE- of the on-line auto parts ordering catelogs
>> show the correct switch: for example, Rock Auto shows a switch
>> that is fundamentally different.
>>
>> Now there are two switches attached to the wire harness, one for
>> "Up" and one for "Down," since I cannot find a replacement switch.
>>
>> Why does the universe hate me so?
>
> For the past 60+ days I have been trying to find a replacement
> switch with no luck at all. The best I can do is buy a five-prong
> switch that looks like the dead switch I have in my vehicle, and
> hope it fits and works the same.
I might have missed it, but have you tried Ebay yet?
Desertphile
Yes.
Nightcrawler
http://www.directauto.com/images/products/main/SWi1036.jpg
Nightcrawler
http://www.conquestauto.com/servlet/the-25306/new-GM--power/Detail
Any of these two warm?
Desertphile
Hi! It does not--- which amuses me. None of the on-line catalogs
show the same switch that is in the vehicle. The switch in my
Tahoe looks like the one in GMC pickups in the late 1980s, but the
switch I have has six conductors and the GMC switches have five.
http://holysmoke.org/temp/s1.jpg
http://holysmoke.org/temp/s2.jpg
I have purchased a five-conductor ("five prong") switch and I'll
make that work. Seems to me one only needs three wires to make a
power window go up and down, and four if one wants the switch
illuminated.
Automobile manufactures should be making cars less complicated,
not more complicated. I like hand-powered windows.
Desertphile
No; the only explanation I can think of is that my 1997 Chevy
Tahoe isn't a 1997 Chevy Tahoe, even though the door sticker says
it is and even though it looks like one. Maybe it's a Tiwan
knock-off.
Nightcrawler
"Desertphile" <deser...@invalid-address.net> wrote in message news:cvbgf59s073op8l7d...@4ax.com...
> http://holysmoke.org/temp/s1.jpg
>
> http://holysmoke.org/temp/s2.jpg
Try these:
If that won't fly, make your own:
http://www.a1electric.com/switches2.htm
Do you have an owners manual with schematics?
It might be possible to install a 5 wire switch
depending on how the windows are wired.
Though, that's a mighty big "might".
Steve W.
> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:03:34 -0600, "Nightcrawler"
> <Dirty...@dirtcheap.net> wrote:
>
>> I take it that it does not look like this:
>> http://www.directauto.com/images/products/main/SWi1036.jpg
>
> Hi! It does not--- which amuses me. None of the on-line catalogs
> show the same switch that is in the vehicle. The switch in my
> Tahoe looks like the one in GMC pickups in the late 1980s, but the
> switch I have has six conductors and the GMC switches have five.
>
> http://holysmoke.org/temp/s1.jpg
>
> http://holysmoke.org/temp/s2.jpg
>
> I have purchased a five-conductor ("five prong") switch and I'll
> make that work. Seems to me one only needs three wires to make a
> power window go up and down, and four if one wants the switch
> illuminated.
>
> Automobile manufactures should be making cars less complicated,
> not more complicated. I like hand-powered windows.
>
>
If those are the switches your truck has in it there is a good reason
why the parts lists don't show it. That is NOT a GM switch assembly.
The factory Tahoe window switches mount in the armrest assembly not on
the face of the door panel. They also use a plug/socket connection not
soldered wires, And the surround matches the door panel with the switch
itself being smoke gray.
That is an aftermarket kit that uses the GM style switch face. I have
seen them sold in various catalogs.
--
Steve W.
Desertphile
> Desertphile wrote:
Ah, thank you: I never thought of that. The switches do go to a
nylon connector, but I would have to take the door appart to plug
them back in if I unpluged them. When the five-prong switch comes
I will use a multimeter to figure out how to wire it in. At the
moment I just short out the wires if I want to raise and lower the
window.
Far better to have a handle one can crank.
Steve W.
The only problem then is that the crank handles on those years were a
PIA to get to when you're in the seat.
Those door panels come off REAL easy. If it were mine I would probably
visit a salvage yard and get a replacement set of panels and switches.
Probably take about 30 minutes to swap both sides.
--
Steve W.