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Warning! Do not let ZIEBART tint your car windows!

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Donald Weimer

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Aug 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/3/98
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This is a warning to all Mercedes owners not to consider ZIEBART for
your window tinting needs. They ruined the windows on my car and it took
over $1000.00 to get them corrected. This is a warning not to make the
same mistake as I did and countless other unsatisifed customers!


Stan Chang

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Aug 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/4/98
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Uhhhh, too late. Ziebart Tidy tinted my 98 M-class and I'm already very
satisfied with the work. I did check out 3 tinting companies, looking at their
workmanship, cleaniless and neatness of their shop before selecting the dealer.
It may not be Ziebart who's crappy, but the guy who bought the franchise and is
running the business. What in the world did they do to your MB?!! Which film
did you pick?
Stan

AMG280

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Aug 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/4/98
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What grade did you tint your windows? Ont he M-Class you only did the 2 front
right? And why did you have to spend 1000 dollars to have them corrected?

Stan Chang

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Aug 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/4/98
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I picked the tint that allowed 20% of light thru. I bought a standard M-class so
did not get the privacy tinting. Only the slight tinting present in most
automotive glass. So I had the back doors, rear 1/4's and back window done.
Donald W. was the one who got screwed on his installation. I picked the top film
that the Ziebart dealer had.
Stan

Donald Weimer

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Aug 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/6/98
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I utilized the best tint that Ziebart installs that is legal in New York
State. The problem with the tint job that Ziebart installed were
numerous cuts, bubbles and flaws. Since I was not happy with a
substandard job, I returned my car on four different dates to have the
problems corrected under warranty to no avail. Finally, I asked for a
refund which they granted and said they would remove the window tint. To
my utter dismay, they must have utilized a razor blade in removing the
window tint from my back window thus ruining the electric rear window
defrosters .
I had to have the whole rear window replaced. In addition, they left
spots of glue on my windows which I had to have professional removed.
All in all, it was a disaster!
I found a professional shop later, that installs only window tint for
Mercedes Benz, Acura, Lexsus and Infinities. They utilized the top 3M
tint and tinted my car flawlessly. I have had numerous compliments on
the fine job that they had done. In addition, there price was $35.00
less than Ziebarts.


Clinton Spilsbury

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Aug 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/8/98
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Ziebart/Tidycar is not known for its quality of workmanship. A
professional window tint installer recommended by your Mercedes
dealership is the way to go.


Chauncy Hill

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Aug 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/8/98
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I guess people will avoid Ziebart for their window tinting needs? It is
probably a good idea.


Stan Chang

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Aug 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/8/98
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Chauncy Hill wrote:

> I guess people will avoid Ziebart for their window tinting needs? It is
> probably a good idea.

All Ziebart dealers are not poor window tinting installers. Not all window
tinting installers are good. I looked at 3 tinting installers in my area before
picking one. The first tint installer kept telling me he was THE BEST. He
repeated it at least 4 times as I toured his shop. I found it was filthy,
dusty, and open to the elements. I looked at a vehicle being tinted, and looked
very closely at the glass edges where the black shading goes from solid black to
a series of dots. There were rather large air bubbles around each dot. The
installer saw me looking at it and told me there was no such thing as a perfect
job. I was amazed there were not thousands of imperfections, due to the open
area and the amount of dust on the floor.

Dealer number two had an even smaller shop area and looked like he was not
planning to be there long.

The third dealer was the Ziebart guy. The only reason I stopped at this shop
was that I saw "window tinting" on his sign. I stopped by and saw a clean shop,
with lots of shop space, and doors to close out the dust and the elements. The
floors were painted and kept clean. I spoke to the owner and was impressed with
them. Equipment and tools were reasonably neat and the shop was organized.
They told me they used a technique which allowed them to install the tint film
onto the back window in one piece. I inspected their work on a vehicle having
tinting applied. Very clean, neat and the film was much, much tighter against
the painted blackout dotted areas on the edges of the windshield and rear
window. The edges were as perfect They also told me it was impossible to
guarantee that there would be absolutely no dust spec between the glass and
film. I looked at several more of their jobs and agreed to let them do the
work. I got the best film they had. The job turned out fantastic. I am very
satisfied.
It just so happened that the guy I picked was a Ziebart dealer. I got a good
job done not because I used a Ziebart Dealer, but because I took the time to
check out the installers before I turned them loose on my new car.
Stan
98 M-Class


Donald Weimer

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Aug 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/9/98
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I guess you had the opportunity to find a good Ziebart window tint
installer. The experience I had was a nightmare which cost me over
$1000.00 to correct. Professional window tint installers are very few
and far between in my area. My mistake was utilizing a Ziebart that
deals in substandard workmanship of its product lines.
While I was there during visit #3, a man that had a alarm system
installed in his Pontiac Firebird was quite upset. He was demanding
satisifaction and was getting no where. I had the opportunity to talk to
him outside and he told me he made a big mistake taking his car to
Ziebart for his alarm system. Who ever installed the system had shorted
out his alternator and he was quite upset since it was a brand new car.
I told him my problems with the window tinting job and he told me I had
a big mistake taking it there. I agreed with him and have regretted it
ever since. The man in the Firebird said he was going to his lawyer's
office because of all the electrical damage they had done to his car.
In conclusion, you were quite fortunate in that you found a Ziebart
dealer that knew what he was doing.
I wouldn't let Ziebart wash my windshield!


John Durbin

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Aug 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/10/98
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Not to belittle your experiences, which sounds quite painful, but I
would like to point out that it is virtually impossible to short out an
alternator or cause damage to it when installing an alarm. The average
alarm harness wire gauge is 18 AWG, and they are typically fused at or
below 10 amps. Before you caused an alternator to go bad you'd melt the
alarm harness and blow every fuse in its harnesses. Sounds like there's
more to the other fellow's story than you heard ...

John Durbin, DEI

Serge

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Aug 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/12/98
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It is very difficult to burn out an alternator period, especially while
installing low-amperage device such as alarm. I'm not justifying what they
as a tint job on your car, but I would not take the other complaint
seriously!
John Durbin wrote in message <35CFCB...@concentric.net>...

Chauncy Hill

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Aug 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/12/98
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I have heard horror stories about Ziebart/Tidycar and for the most part,
I believe them. Ziebart is not known for quality workmanship at all
locations. I assume that Ziebart has some very good locations as
mentioned in previous posts. But, Ziebart is at the lower end of the
totem pole on an average for everything that they do except rust
proofing.


Robert Roe

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Aug 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/12/98
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I'm not even sure that I'd recommend their rustproofing. I had a 1978
Datsun 280Z Ziebarted when it was new and it was rusting around the
nameplate holes within 3 years....

Chauncy Hill wrote:

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Norb

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Aug 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/12/98
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Exactly, doesn't our fav brand auto come with a 7 year rust warranty?
Pure scam, as is the protection package and pinstripping. On the subject
of pinstripping I saw a new SLK with pin tripping at the dealership. And
the guy who applied it signed his name in paint on the rear section, as
if his contribution to the car merited a signature! My God, old Daimler
and Benz just gets a little paper sticker on the windshield, and the
pinstripper gets it in Paint!

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WRENCH99

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Aug 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/13/98
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>I'm not even sure that I'd recommend their rustproofing.

IMHO, "rustproofing" is either a simple fraud, as sugggested by the FTC,
Consumer Reports and others, or at best, depending upon the solvency of the
rustproofer, the worst insurance value on the planet.
Bill Ditmire
www.ditmire.com

cs

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Aug 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/13/98
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I had my SAAB Ziebarted--what a mistake! Now, Ten years, 2 months
later, 75% of the holes that Ziebart drilled are rusting. The
headlights were fogged up, and the Ziebart material masked over the
leather fragrance for probably five years or more.

I really should have taken the advice that Consumer Reports issued
circa 1987, viz.: aftermarket undercoaters cause more problems than
they solve.

Chauncy Hill

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Aug 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/23/98
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This is an on going problem with Ziebart. The quality of workmanship has
a lot to be desired.


Sid Dithers

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Aug 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/27/98
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Letting Ziebart do anything to your car is asking for trouble!


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