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'82 300CD turbodiesel coup - opinions? Value?

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Amy McGrew

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Mar 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/3/99
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Hi all,

I have the opportunity to purchase an immaculate 1982 300CD turbodiesel
coup (that's the 123 chassis), with 150,000 miles on it. It's white, no
body damage or rust, has a sunroof, power brakes/steering/windows,
after-market removable cassette, and vinyl seats. On it's second owners,
who have loved it for 7 years. The only thing not working well are the
rear windows, which have trouble going up and down. Consensus is that
the grease dried up in the desert heat due to non-use.

I was wondering if anyone out there has opinions - good or bad - about
this model. I am hoping to use it as a daily commute car and would like
to get another 150k miles out of it. Right now I am car-less, and
haven't really looked around at other vehicles due to time constraints.
:)

I have done a little research into the car & its value, but the latter
was with the KBB, which I realize has to be taken with a grain of salt.
The owners are trustworthy, and have cared well for it. They are a
Mercedes family. I've just never owned a Mercedes before and don't know
much about them. I've spoken to a mechanic and he obviously wasn't a
Mercedes lover even though he & his garage works on them. He said not to
pay over $5000 for it, and downplayed the collector factor. He was
cautious, not vehemently against them, but he did say 200,000 was his
expectation on the diesel engine and that anything else was gravy.

I worry about buying it and having the engine give out at 200k because
of what that mechanic said. I also worry about repairs, which many
non-Mercedes people seem to believe are prohibitively expensive (my
uncle told me to keep looking for that reason). I don't know, if you
keep up on the maintenance as these owners have (they have all records
back to the point of sale with the first owner), wouldn't it stand to
reason I could get a lot of life out of this car?

Opinions wanted! Thanks in advance! :)

-Amy
a...@jersey.uoregon.edu

lwwise

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Mar 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/3/99
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My opinion is that you should send me the telephone number of the current
owner and kiss the car goodbye. Seriously, I have been looking and have
found some 82 and 83 240s with many more miles listed (asking, of course)
for $3,000-$$4,000. Sounds like a good deal IMHO.
Amy McGrew wrote in message <5ZhD2.3128$FZ5...@news.rdc1.sfba.home.com>...

Amy McGrew

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Mar 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/3/99
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I forgot to mention that the owners' asking price is $7000... due to
it's excellent condition and "classic" status of this particular car.

So the price is my other hesitation...

-Amy

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JNMHickman

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Mar 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/3/99
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7000 is WAY to much. I agree with your mechanic one just that one point. 5000
is tops, and 4500 is more like it.
You should easily get 300,000 on that engine, with a valve adjustment every
year, timing chain replacement every 100000, and oil changes every 3000.
Jon
83 300D

Richard J. Sexton

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Mar 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/3/99
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In article <ZHiD2.3181$FZ5...@news.rdc1.sfba.home.com>,

Amy McGrew <a...@jersey.uoregon.edu> wrote:
>I forgot to mention that the owners' asking price is $7000... due to
>it's excellent condition and "classic" status of this particular car.

The collectiblae aspect of this car exists, but is so negligable
as to be laughable.

Get a mechanic who knows and *likes* these cars to give it
a thorough once over. If (hot) engine compression is near
perfect and things have been replaced at proper intervals
(ie, it doesnt need tie rods, ball joints, shocks etc)
than it might be worth the money.

If it's gonna need a forn end rebuild soon, deduct $1200.

If it's gonna need a completely new A/C soon deduct $2000.

If it has a plastic radiator neck thats original you'll
be buyijg a replacement soon. Not too cheap.

Just because it's a pretty car (they are) and nice and shiney
doesnt mean it's going to be trouble free. It could have a
dozen $500 things wrong with it.


--
Richard Sexton ric...@mbz.org Bannockburn, Ontario, Canada
70, 72 280SE; 83 300SD http://www.mbz.org

Dennis Taylor

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Mar 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/3/99
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The rear window regulators are probably worn or bend like mine were, at
about $90 a piece and an afternoon they will be like new. If vehicle is as
stated sounds like a reasonable price to me.
Had a friend trying to find a similar vehicle but since the coupe "CD" are
harder to come buy he brought a sedan. (4 door)

Enjoy the vehicle if you buy it.

Good luck

lwwise wrote in message <#tVkZMcZ#GA.134@upnetnews03>...


>My opinion is that you should send me the telephone number of the current
>owner and kiss the car goodbye. Seriously, I have been looking and have
>found some 82 and 83 240s with many more miles listed (asking, of course)
>for $3,000-$$4,000. Sounds like a good deal IMHO.
>Amy McGrew wrote in message <5ZhD2.3128$FZ5...@news.rdc1.sfba.home.com>...

Ms. Manners

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Mar 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/4/99
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ric...@ns1.vrx.net (Richard J. Sexton) wrote:
>...

>Get a mechanic who knows and *likes* these cars to give it
>a thorough once over. If (hot) engine compression is near
>perfect...

What SHOULD the engine compression be???
(In PSI, measured with a conventional gauge at the glow plugs...)

lynda janzen

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Mar 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/4/99
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Coupes will always sell for much more that a sedan. And 123 Turbo
sedans in this area are selling for 4500 to 5500. So at 7000 it may be
a little high offer 6250 and see what happens. Otherwise let me know
where the car is I have a customer that has been looking for one for 2
years.

JNMHickman

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Mar 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/4/99
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That may be so where you are, but around here, people don't pay more for
diesels, and to them, the idea of a diesel coupe is bordering on the absurd.
Around here, they go for slightly less than a sedan.
Jon
83 300D

Jefbmw240z

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Mar 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/6/99
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richard do you know how much it costs to run a compression test on a deisel?

Jefbmw240z

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Mar 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/6/99
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amy

I have an 83 300CD blue w/ blue leather seats, no rust, slow rear windows
(mercedes upgrades parts needed), 123k miles w/ new a/c system
and blaupunt cd player (becker included) new steering box ($1200)and RF ball
joint and boge hd gas shocks. I bought it w/ 94 k miles and have enjoyed it but
have considered selling I love the car and it is a very good automobile. If
you have any more questions let me know

RWhiteFang

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Mar 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/6/99
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Jeff, re:

> boge hd gas shocks.

Just out of curiousity, what made you put Boges (vs Billsteins) in your MB???

-wf

BOBINYELM

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Mar 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/6/99
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Amy,

In my neck of the woods (WA), a clean 300CD Turbo has brought as much as $9000.
The coupes are much sought after, but the market is rather thin on both sides.
The car would be much more interesting with a gas engine (230 or 280), but is
still a very nice car.

Most of the body parts are outrageously priced and used parts are hard to come
by due to the low numbers of coupes imported.

The mechanicals are dead reliable, and the most important part of a compression
check is setting the valves FIRST. I bought a very nice 300CD for $1500 because
the last mechanic told the owner the engine was shot after doing a compression
test (numbers in the 250-275 range). After I bought the car, I set the valves
and all cylinders showed 325+ (factory specs).

A compression check with a valve setting should take anout 2 1/2 hours due to
having to remove the injection harness and injectors. Parts include a new valve
cover gasket probably and to be factory correct, new injector gaskets (metal).

Bob

Still...

Amy McGrew

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Mar 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/7/99
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What part of the country are you in? What are boge hd gas shocks? :)

Thanks,

-Amy

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Moooseboy

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Mar 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/8/99
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I am in Kansas City area and boge shocks are the OEM maker of shocks and keep
the same mercedes quality ride as when it was new.

Jeff

Alharvey

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Mar 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/9/99
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I bought an 85 CD turbodiesel in CT with 194,000 miles a few months ago for
$7500.00. THis car is in dead mint condition, still has teh original window
sticker in the glove box ($35,000) new.

FAbualous car,

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