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Kevin Little

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Sep 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/26/99
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I've been a Mercedes owner now for two days, and I am NOT impressed!

Yesterday, Saturday 26 Sept. 1999, I picked up a new 1999 C230K. It
had 204 miles on it, since it had to be driven in from another
dealership in update NY (my dealer is in central Mass.)

Less than 20 miles later, the "BAS/ASR" warning light came on! I
stopped, turned the car off, and upon restarting the warning light was
off. I drove the car back to the dealer, talked to my salesman a
while, and we mutually agreed I should keep driving the car and see if
I could reproduce the glitch.

Well, today, 27 hours and 60 miles later, it came on again. I'm just
driving along, and, POP!, its own.

This is the legendary Mercedes quality? I traded in a 9 month old
Volvo S70 for this? huh!?

-k


C43AMG

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Sep 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/27/99
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In article <37eea86b...@news.ne.mediaone.net>,

First, you should have seen a sercice tech, not a salesman with the
problem. Second, If you don't get the problem fixed you can't keep
faulting the car.

Go to your service deptartment Monday morning and have them diagnose
the problem.

Good luck

--
Noah
1999 C43AMG


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T. G. Lambach

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Sep 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/27/99
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It's a M-B but it's also just a car. There's an infant mortality of some
sensor. Suggest you talk to the service guys who will fix it; not some
salesman.

Alternatively, you could trade it in for a Lexus.

Wpgbfw

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Sep 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/27/99
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>Less than 20 miles later, the "BAS/ASR" warning light came on! I
>stopped, turned the car off, and upon restarting the warning light was
>off. I drove the car back to the dealer, talked to my salesman a
>while, and we mutually agreed I should keep driving the car and see if
>I could reproduce the glitch.
>
>Well, today, 27 hours and 60 miles later, it came on again. I'm just
>driving along, and, POP!, its own.

My E 430 did that intermittently several times. It is now fixed. The service
guys said it was a steering column jacket. They had to order it and it took a
day.

My first Mercedes, was a new 1993 190E 2.6. After less than 50 miles the
tachometer quit working. After it was fixed the car never had another problem.
Hope you have the same luck.

William Gardner
'99 E 430
'99 SLK 230


robert fries

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Sep 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/27/99
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On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 23:20:23 GMT, kclittleS...@mediaone.net
(Kevin Little) wrote:

>I've been a Mercedes owner now for two days, and I am NOT impressed!
>
>Yesterday, Saturday 26 Sept. 1999, I picked up a new 1999 C230K. It
>had 204 miles on it, since it had to be driven in from another
>dealership in update NY (my dealer is in central Mass.)
>

>Less than 20 miles later, the "BAS/ASR" warning light came on! I
>stopped, turned the car off, and upon restarting the warning light was
>off. I drove the car back to the dealer, talked to my salesman a
>while, and we mutually agreed I should keep driving the car and see if
>I could reproduce the glitch.
>
>Well, today, 27 hours and 60 miles later, it came on again. I'm just
>driving along, and, POP!, its own.
>

>This is the legendary Mercedes quality? I traded in a 9 month old
>Volvo S70 for this? huh!?

27 hours, 60 miles... you sure drive slow!

You traded-in a 9 month-old car? Wow, you must be rich!

Anyway, cars are complex, and sometimes a few things need to be sorted
out. If you expect absolute perfection, you're likely to be
disappointed a lot of the time.

/RF

rfries at pacbell dot net


Adam

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Sep 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/27/99
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I've got the perfect car for you, man. It's a 1973 Vauxhall Victor 1.8
litre. I guarantee that the BAS/ABS warning light will not come on. In
fact, I'm pretty sure that it can do more than 60 miles in 27 hours. You
want a car which never has problems - go by bus.

Ad

robert fries wrote:

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AutobahnNJ

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Sep 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/28/99
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Hello,

I learned a long time ago to expect very little from a C-class. Welcome to the
club.

White Fang

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Sep 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/28/99
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Auto-dope, re:

>I learned a long time ago to expect very little from a C-class. Welcome to the
club.

I called your dealership to find out the "real story". They said that MB was
sick of all your complaints over the years and stuck you with a lemon, in hope
that you'd be a Lexus customer to give them future grief...


-wf

"Oh! The lazy fat people
Are a terrible sight to see.
And the lazy fat people will
Get the better of you and me...."

Pete Townshend '66


008

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Sep 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/28/99
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LOL

That's harsh :)

Jim

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Sep 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/29/99
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a 1999 C class?
You bought a Chrysler, not a mercedes.
And if you previously owned a volvo, a volvo
is just a cheap copy of a mercedes inside and out


White Fang

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Sep 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/29/99
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Vijay, re:

>LOL

>That's harsh :)

Glad you liked it! However, knowing Auto-disposal as well as I do, I'm sure the
folks at MB are as sick of his whining as we are. `;-()

deljo...@my-deja.com

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Sep 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/29/99
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DaimlerChrysler is owned by DaimlerBenz, not by Mercedes. The C-class
has no connection with Chrysler. A Volvo is a Volvo, and they are not
cheap.

Any other pearls of wisdom?

Del Johnson


In article <NXeI3.1587$Gg6....@news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com>,

Bill Ditmire

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Sep 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/29/99
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>
>DaimlerChrysler is owned by DaimlerBenz,

Not just accurate. The former companies Daimler-Benz AG and Chrysler
Corporation are now "Daimler-Chrysler AG."
Bill Ditmire
www.ditmire.com

Lance Hartmann

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Sep 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/29/99
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In article <19990928081159...@ng-fs1.aol.com>,
AutobahnNJ <autob...@aol.com> wrote:
>Hello,

>
>I learned a long time ago to expect very little from a C-class. Welcome to the
>club.


In my humble opinion (IMHO), welcome to the "new" Mercedes-Benz. I do
not feel that this reduction in quality is limited to the C-class.
Look at all the problems reported with the (early?) M-classes and
CLKs, not to mention cheap, plastic interior components and rattles
in the new illustrious S-class.

I firmly believe that today's Mercedes-Benz is focused on QUANTITY
(i.e. increased sales) over QUALITY.

--
Lance Hartmann (la...@jump.net)

Mick Bramley

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Sep 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/29/99
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In article <19990928081159...@ng-fs1.aol.com>,
autob...@aol.com (AutobahnNJ) wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I learned a long time ago to expect very little from a C-class. Welcome to the
> club.

I'm affraid what you're all experiencing is modern cars, they're all the
same I've in my working life worked on all the supposed quaility cars, I
served my time on Mercedes-Benz working on 123, 124, 107, 126, 140, 116,
108, 129, 201 and 202 the old cars where a lot more reliable, because
there's a lot less technology in them, I've since worked on Audi & VW, and
I work now on Jaguar, Aston-Martin, Bently and RR, we get a very large
amount of electical and intermittant faults, we get the old cars in as
well and they usually come in for service and brakes etc, not many
electrical problems. Like it or not it's going to get worse, much worse,
you see many techs are now entering the realm of computers and micro
electronics and most of them are'nt up to it, there's 10 people in our
shop and one guy does all the electrical/diagnosis work (me) and there's
too much for me to cope with really.

From what I've read though Lexus and Honda are supposed to be good cars.

Like everything else, you can buy good ones and bad ones, such is life.

FYI the Audi A4 and A6 are riddle with silly problems (due to cost
cutting), also look at the problems BMW are having in Europe with the
Nickasil bores on the V8, a friend of mine works on BMW and in they're
shop they put on average 3 new blocks a week in. it's not just Mercedes.

Jamie Barnes

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Sep 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/30/99
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A Volvo is now a Ford
deljo...@my-deja.com wrote in message <7stgid$bc8$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...

qwerty...@my-deja.com

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Oct 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/1/99
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I have read this entire thread with much amusement. IMHO it is some
sensor. Take the thing in, get the loaner car and tell them you wont
accept it back until it is fixed. That is the reason they give you a
warranty in the first place is to fix any of the thousands of parts of
your car that worked when it left but dont feel like working right
now. Hell, if the thing was perfect they wouldnt need a warranty.

Now if they cant fix it after a reasonable number of attempts, thats a
whole other ball of wax.

K
In article <37EF1854...@worldnet.att.net>,


"T. G. Lambach" <lamba...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> It's a M-B but it's also just a car. There's an infant mortality of
some
> sensor. Suggest you talk to the service guys who will fix it; not some
> salesman.
>
> Alternatively, you could trade it in for a Lexus.
>

> Kevin Little wrote:
>
> > I've been a Mercedes owner now for two days, and I am NOT impressed!
> >
> > Yesterday, Saturday 26 Sept. 1999, I picked up a new 1999 C230K. It
> > had 204 miles on it, since it had to be driven in from another
> > dealership in update NY (my dealer is in central Mass.)
> >
> > Less than 20 miles later, the "BAS/ASR" warning light came on! I
> > stopped, turned the car off, and upon restarting the warning light
was
> > off. I drove the car back to the dealer, talked to my salesman a
> > while, and we mutually agreed I should keep driving the car and see
if
> > I could reproduce the glitch.
> >
> > Well, today, 27 hours and 60 miles later, it came on again. I'm just
> > driving along, and, POP!, its own.
> >
> > This is the legendary Mercedes quality? I traded in a 9 month old
> > Volvo S70 for this? huh!?
> >

> > -k

Thomas

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Oct 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/5/99
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Verrek, zeg deljo...@my-deja.com, ben jij 't?
Nog altijd aan de rol?
Zit je pa nog op de Bahama's?
Speelt je zus nog volleybal?

>DaimlerChrysler is owned by DaimlerBenz, not by Mercedes. The C-class
>has no connection with Chrysler. A Volvo is a Volvo, and they are not
>cheap.
>
>Any other pearls of wisdom?

Yes, Volvo is not Volvo anymore.

Diesels are VW and some petrols used to be Renault.

Go fish.

--
Met de groeten van,

Thomas tho...@dds.nl

"High on Diesel and Gasoline"

'75 Suzuki T500 (Rolling Chassis)
'80 Yamaha XT250 "Lil' Bastard"

superc...@my-deja.com

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Oct 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/20/99
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What books and records should be in a 1991 S class? Mine has the owner's
manual, maintenance book, SRS pamphlet, dealer directory, cardboard card
with cruise control instructions.. I would like to hear from anyone who
purchased a new or used 1991 S class with all the "books", what were all the
books?
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