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Alf

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Oct 8, 2002, 5:06:25 PM10/8/02
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Hoi Luk,

Jij hebt toch goede contacten bij Behringer? ;-))

Mijn 8024 heeft versie 1.2.
Op de site van Behringer staat dat de software alleen voor versie 1.3A is.

ULTRA-CURVE DSP8024 Design
Editor für DSP8024 (nur für Betriebssystem 1.3A)

1.3A kan ik uiteraard wel downloaden maar ik heb geen EPROM programmer ter
beschikking.

1: Wat is het verschil tussen versie 1.2 en 1.3A? Extra functionaliteit,
verbeteringen??
2: Heb jij een EPROM programmer of weet je iemand die het kan uitvoeren?

~ Alf, Wil graag altijd alles eruit halen :-) ~

Alf

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Oct 8, 2002, 5:14:06 PM10/8/02
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"Alf" <A...@outerspace.nl> wrote

A lot of Dutch ;-)

Sorry guys. Posting was mentioned for the dutch ANAP board.

~ Alf, Need some sleep ~


Luk Van de Heyning

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Oct 9, 2002, 12:21:56 PM10/9/02
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On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 23:06:25 +0200, "Alf" <A...@outerspace.nl> wrote:

>Hoi Luk,
>
>Jij hebt toch goede contacten bij Behringer? ;-))
>

"Good contacts" ? At Behringer ?

When we have to believe everything said about B-gear there is no such
thing as "good contacts" in their stuff ;-)


>Mijn 8024 heeft versie 1.2.
>Op de site van Behringer staat dat de software alleen voor versie 1.3A is.
>
>ULTRA-CURVE DSP8024 Design
>Editor für DSP8024 (nur für Betriebssystem 1.3A)
>
>1.3A kan ik uiteraard wel downloaden maar ik heb geen EPROM programmer ter
>beschikking.
>
>1: Wat is het verschil tussen versie 1.2 en 1.3A? Extra functionaliteit,
>verbeteringen??
>2: Heb jij een EPROM programmer of weet je iemand die het kan uitvoeren?
>

I don't have a Eprommer anymore. Mine broke some years ago...
I even don't have this latest 1.3A firmware myself... (forgot about it
and don't need it really).

Main difference is: the newest Windows-software for the 8024 does ONLY
work on version 1.3a (and up, If any...). Because they added some
MIDI-functionality which is simply absent in older firmwares. So the
latest Windows-software will NOT work on older firmware.

I'm also told (NOT by Behringer-people...) there seemed to be a bug in
V 1.2... Had something to do with the auto-Q function not correctly
working (one had to press an extra button or so, don't remember
exact).

So I think, even if you do NOT plan to use the Windows-software, it's
worth updating the eproms.

Normally your Behringer-dealer can order the eproms for you. You'll
pay a bit perhaps (transport and administration-fee) (I suppose a 25
Euro would be an "honnest" price, everything less would be "nice" :-)

I once asked "my good contacts" but they could NOT give me the eproms
("GIVE" that is) because the Behringer - administration could not take
care of "free gifts" and I am not a dealer and... and... and...

But I know my dealer has them (or had them).


BTW: Interesting to spread this news perhaps: the price for the
DDX3216 (great mixer, really !) is dropping from 2000 Euro to 1600
Euro (seen yesterday at "those two German stores" websites !!!)

My dealer is NOT happy with this....

(And I didn't buy the DDX yet, because I had this "vision" they would
drop prices, no "inside information" BTW ("they" told me I should not
expect the price to drop, so "they" were wrong :-))

But now I will buy one.


Alf

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Oct 9, 2002, 6:03:16 PM10/9/02
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"Luk Van de Heyning" wrote

> "Good contacts" ? At Behringer ?
>
> When we have to believe everything said about B-gear there is no such
> thing as "good contacts" in their stuff ;-)

Damn right :-)

> I don't have a Eprommer anymore. Mine broke some years ago...
> I even don't have this latest 1.3A firmware myself...

Thats no problem. You can download it at the Behringer site.

> Main difference is: the newest Windows-software for the 8024 does ONLY
> work on version 1.3a (and up, If any...). Because they added some
> MIDI-functionality which is simply absent in older firmwares. So the
> latest Windows-software will NOT work on older firmware.

Hmmmm... it works to a certain extend (on mine 8024 with version 1.2) but
indeed not everything is working as it should be.

> I'm also told (NOT by Behringer-people...) there seemed to be a bug in
> V 1.2... Had something to do with the auto-Q function not correctly
> working (one had to press an extra button or so, don't remember
> exact).

Yep. Very correct. Reijer van der Waaij posted a well written response on
this issue in alt.nl.audio.pro.

> So I think, even if you do NOT plan to use the Windows-software, it's
> worth updating the eproms.

Yes! I'am using the Windows software. No Linux version available ;-(

> Normally your Behringer-dealer can order the eproms for you. You'll
> pay a bit perhaps (transport and administration-fee) (I suppose a 25
> Euro would be an "honnest" price, everything less would be "nice" :-)

Thats 10% of the price for the unit!
You must be mad ;-)

> I once asked "my good contacts" but they could NOT give me the eproms
> ("GIVE" that is) because the Behringer - administration could not take
> care of "free gifts"

LOL!

> and I am not a dealer and... and... and...
> But I know my dealer has them (or had them).
>
>
> BTW: Interesting to spread this news perhaps: the price for the
> DDX3216 (great mixer, really !) is dropping from 2000 Euro to 1600
> Euro (seen yesterday at "those two German stores" websites !!!)

Thats a sharp price indeed!

> (And I didn't buy the DDX yet, because I had this "vision" they would
> drop prices, no "inside information" BTW ("they" told me I should not
> expect the price to drop, so "they" were wrong :-))

You must be a clever guy :-)

Thanks Luk.

~ Alf ~


Alf

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Oct 10, 2002, 3:46:24 PM10/10/02
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"Paul Matthews" wrote

Hi Paul,

> Bear in mind the price of the blank eprom is likelt to be around 7
euros[1],
> add the time for someone to put it in a blower (even a multi socket
blower)
> take it out pack it up and post it.
>
> Even if they did it on exchange, ther handling cost of tracking returns
would
> probably be higher than the cost of a blank.

Well argumented and I totally agree with you.
Thats why I also placed the smiley behind my remark.

It is typically dutch to go for cheap options AND still expect a high
servicelevel.
You get what you pay for.

~ Alf ~

Joe in Maui

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Oct 10, 2002, 5:00:19 PM10/10/02
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Aloha from Maui
I don't know if I was just lucky, but I called Behringer parts/service
and they sent me a new programmed eprom with version 1.3a.... free. I
wasn't real happy with the fact that they sent it out with bad software,
but their response to me was great. As you know version 1.2 did have at
least one bug in it relative to auto Q function.

Alf

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Oct 10, 2002, 6:04:23 PM10/10/02
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"Joe in Maui" wrote

Hi Joe,

> Aloha from Maui
> I don't know if I was just lucky, but I called Behringer parts/service
> and they sent me a new programmed eprom with version 1.3a.... free. I
> wasn't real happy with the fact that they sent it out with bad software,

I share your feeling. Also it is a bit strange that there website is not
mentioning anything about this issue.

> but their response to me was great.

Yep. For free. Thats what we like :-)

> As you know version 1.2 did have at
> least one bug in it relative to auto Q function.

Correct.

~ Alf ~


Alf

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Oct 11, 2002, 5:27:30 AM10/11/02
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"Paul Matthews" wrote

> I downloaded the FW from th website and sent it with an eprom to a friend.

I have also found someone in the Netherlands who is willing to program the
EEPROM for me so the problem will soon be fixed.
The dutch pro-audio newsgroup (alt.nl.audio.pro) has last year grown to a
very usefull and interesting community for pro audio guys like me.

~ Alf, Loves usenet ~


Luk Van de Heyning

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Oct 11, 2002, 12:50:47 PM10/11/02
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On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 00:04:23 +0200, "Alf" <A...@outerspace.nl> wrote:

>> I don't know if I was just lucky, but I called Behringer parts/service
>> and they sent me a new programmed eprom with version 1.3a.... free.

Free? Than we found someone with even better contacts ! :-)

>> wasn't real happy with the fact that they sent it out with bad software,
>
>I share your feeling. Also it is a bit strange that there website is not
>mentioning anything about this issue.

They don't like the idea someone knows about possible errors they
could have perhaps once made :-)

Those Germans are the "we don't make mistakes, YOU do when YOU think
we do..." kind I guess...

The only "official" mentioning of "errors" I found so far on the
Behringer website is in the pdf-file about the firmware updates for
the DDX3216. "Best of all" is that some of the "updates" (bug-fixes
that is) seem to fix bugs in fw versions that were released (or not?)
after the initial firmware (and should have been bug-fixes...):-)

I love a good laugh every now and then, I like Behringer ;-)


Alf

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Oct 12, 2002, 5:26:07 AM10/12/02
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"Luk Van de Heyning" wrote

> I love a good laugh every now and then, I like Behringer ;-)

Exactly my reason for starting a thread with "PING: Luk" in the subject ;-)

~ Alf, Favorite scene " The Germans, Fawlty Towers "


leyen...@gmail.com

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Jun 30, 2020, 1:02:51 PM6/30/20
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Hi.

May I have some help¿
is about the softhware for a behringer dsp8024.

mine is v1.2.

do you have the software for this unit¿

im running windows xp.

thank you.
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