New Small Speakers
George Gleason
I am starting to perform on guitar with another picking buddy of mine
and just bought the Neimann 105 mics and the A&H dp1000 to take care of the
input and mixing
But I want a small High to Very High Quality speaker to use with it
we are two acoustic guitars on mics (no pick-ups thank you)
and two vox mics play mostly really quiet rest homes and brew pubs
.I come to you as I don't want to over look anything
should be passive handle 150watts and be
no bigger than a 10 inch woofer dual 8 is real interesting
these will due double duty as a speech system for lectures and court rooms
budget is 6-800$ea.
George
Mike Borkhuis
At my corporate AV job, we use Apogee AE-3s... 10"+horn in a small
cabinet (12.5"w x 16"h x 10"d, 35 pounds). Do a nice job and they'll run
300 watts continuous (1200 peak) or 121 db SPL continuous @ 1 meter. Comes
with rigging points standard. And an optional stand mount. Price, last
time I checked, was $900 each (Brighton Sound in Rochester, NY). Though I
know my employer gets them cheaper some place else.
Mike Borkhuis
Worship Technology
Jimi
http://www.apogee-sound.com/
Apogee's page has no product info, but you can e-mail them for PDF documents.....(I could swear I just typed
that in another thread!...hehe)
--
Jimi Ray-audio engineer
Visit me at http://www.jimirayo.com
"Mike Borkhuis" <bork...@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message news:fprJ4.4206$wM3....@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com...
Lord Valve
> Hi Group,
> I am starting to perform on guitar with another picking buddy of mine
> and just bought the Neimann 105 mics and the A&H dp1000 to take care of the
> input and mixing
> But I want a small High to Very High Quality speaker to use with it
> we are two acoustic guitars on mics (no pick-ups thank you)
> and two vox mics play mostly really quiet rest homes and brew pubs
> .I come to you as I don't want to over look anything
> should be passive handle 150watts and be
> no bigger than a 10 inch woofer dual 8 is real interesting
> these will due double duty as a speech system for lectures and court rooms
> budget is 6-800$ea.
> George
Lord Valve Speaketh:
George, check out the Celestion SR-1 Mk II boxes;
these run two 8" high-compliance full-range drivers
with titanium center-domes for the high end. This
is a processor-based system (a la Bose, Elite, etc.)
which manages to produce some impressive levels
without being huge or heavy. Coupled with one of
the QSC PLX-series power amps (if you get the SR-1s
in 4-ohm impedance, the PLX-1602 will do quite nicely)
you'll have a decent-sounding rig that'll fit in the
back seat of most cars, and is easily transportable
by a single person. The vocal clarity on these is
nothing short of astonishing; they are often used
as center clusters (for vocal mix only) in flown
systems for churches and civic center-type venues.
Check 'em out at: http://www.celestion.com/pro/pro.htm
If you get a chance to audition these, you'll dig 'em.
Lord Valve
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Mike Borkhuis
> these run two 8" high-compliance full-range drivers
> with titanium center-domes for the high end. This
> is a processor-based system (a la Bose, Elite, etc.)
> which manages to produce some impressive levels
> without being huge or heavy. Coupled with one of
> the QSC PLX-series power amps (if you get the SR-1s
> in 4-ohm impedance, the PLX-1602 will do quite nicely)
> you'll have a decent-sounding rig that'll fit in the
> back seat of most cars, and is easily transportable
> by a single person. The vocal clarity on these is
> nothing short of astonishing; they are often used
> as center clusters (for vocal mix only) in flown
> systems for churches and civic center-type venues.
> Check 'em out at: http://www.celestion.com/pro/pro.htm
> If you get a chance to audition these, you'll dig 'em.
I've seen/heard these in a local church (installed).... To be honest, I
prefer an Apogee AE-3.... As for the QSC amp, a church group that I help
out with just picked up 8 monitors and a QSC amp to run them. Initially
they we were looking at the PLX series, but ended up purchasing a RMX-1450.
More powerful than the PLX model we were looking at, $50 cheaper AND QSC it
had twice the warrantee (6 years instead of 3).
Mike Borkhuis
Worship Technology
Pete Kerezman
Lord Valve wrote:
>Celestion SR-1 Mk II boxes;
>these run two 8" high-compliance full-range drivers
>with titanium center-domes for the high end. This
>is a processor-based system (a la Bose, Elite, etc.)
>which manages to produce some impressive levels
>without being huge or heavy. Coupled with one of
>the QSC PLX-series power amps (if you get the SR-1s
>in 4-ohm impedance, the PLX-1602 will do quite nicely)
>you'll have a decent-sounding rig that'll fit in the
>back seat of most cars, and is easily transportable
>by a single person.
Where does the processor patch into the system?
Texas Pete
Pete Kerezman (pete...@aol.com)
Lord Valve
> > George, check out the Celestion SR-1 Mk II boxes;
> > these run two 8" high-compliance full-range drivers
> > with titanium center-domes for the high end. This
> > is a processor-based system (a la Bose, Elite, etc.)
> > which manages to produce some impressive levels
> > without being huge or heavy. Coupled with one of
> > the QSC PLX-series power amps (if you get the SR-1s
> > in 4-ohm impedance, the PLX-1602 will do quite nicely)
> > you'll have a decent-sounding rig that'll fit in the
> > back seat of most cars, and is easily transportable
> > by a single person. The vocal clarity on these is
> > nothing short of astonishing; they are often used
> > as center clusters (for vocal mix only) in flown
> > systems for churches and civic center-type venues.
> > Check 'em out at: http://www.celestion.com/pro/pro.htm
> > If you get a chance to audition these, you'll dig 'em.
>
> I've seen/heard these in a local church (installed).... To be honest, I
> prefer an Apogee AE-3.... As for the QSC amp, a church group that I help
> out with just picked up 8 monitors and a QSC amp to run them. Initially
> they we were looking at the PLX series, but ended up purchasing a RMX-1450.
> More powerful than the PLX model we were looking at, $50 cheaper AND QSC it
> had twice the warrantee (6 years instead of 3).
>
> Mike Borkhuis
> Worship Technology
Lord Valve Speaketh:
The RMX series has the standard 3-year parts/labor QSC
warranty; if purchased before April 30, 2000, QSC is
doubling the warranty as an introductory promotion.
The RMX 1450 is certainly a good amp for the money,
but it's a re-packaged Chinese version of the USA
900. Sonically, it's not on a par with the PLX or
Powerlight amps. The closest PLX equivalent to the
RMX-1450 would be the PLX-1602; in my shop the PLX
goes for $699 and the RMX goes for $469. If the
RMX you bought was only $50 less than the PLX, you
got hosed. Either that, or the PLX was at a *killer*
price point. (Doubtful.) As for the Celestions, you
say poTAYto, I say poTAHto...
Lord Valve
VISIT MY WEBSITE: http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/lord-valve/
Good tube FAQ for newbies. I specialize in top quality HAND
SELECTED NOS and current-production vacuum tubes for guitar and
bass amps. Good prices, fast service. TONS of gear and parts in
stock...let's DEAL!
NBS Electronics, 230 South Broadway, Denver, CO 80209-1510
Phone orders/tech support after 1:00 PM Denver time at 303-778-1156
VISA - MASTERCARD
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Lord Valve
LV
Pete Kerezman wrote:
> Lord Valve wrote:
>
> >Celestion SR-1 Mk II boxes;
> >these run two 8" high-compliance full-range drivers
> >with titanium center-domes for the high end. This
> >is a processor-based system (a la Bose, Elite, etc.)
> >which manages to produce some impressive levels
> >without being huge or heavy. Coupled with one of
> >the QSC PLX-series power amps (if you get the SR-1s
> >in 4-ohm impedance, the PLX-1602 will do quite nicely)
> >you'll have a decent-sounding rig that'll fit in the
> >back seat of most cars, and is easily transportable
> >by a single person.
>
Lord Valve
to the speaker lines; it tastes the output of the power amp
and applies the necessary mojo if it looks like things are
going to get dicey for the drivers.
LV
Mike Borkhuis
> The RMX series has the standard 3-year parts/labor QSC
> warranty; if purchased before April 30, 2000, QSC is
> doubling the warranty as an introductory promotion.
True... I didn't realize that the promotion ended that soon.
> The RMX 1450 is certainly a good amp for the money,
> but it's a re-packaged Chinese version of the USA
> 900. Sonically, it's not on a par with the PLX or
> Powerlight amps. The closest PLX equivalent to the
> RMX-1450 would be the PLX-1602; in my shop the PLX
> goes for $699 and the RMX goes for $469. If the
> RMX you bought was only $50 less than the PLX, you
> got hosed. Either that, or the PLX was at a *killer*
> price point. (Doubtful.) As for the Celestions, you
True, the PLX is a better sounding amp... I was looking at the PLX-1202
before the RMX series was introduced. Locally the 1202 sells for $549 ($795
for the 1602).. The RMX 1450 was $499. The main reasons that the church
group jumped for the RMX was the longer warrantee and the savings compared
to the 1202....
Mike Borkhuis
Worship Technology
George Gleason
and was very surprise by the quality that the full range driver achieved
after years and years of the crap bose puts out with thier full range
squaker
but for this application I am using my new A&h DP 1000
which is a POWERED (2x300 into 4digital mixer
and a processor has no place to live
I dont want to tie up a aux and loop it I dont even know if that would
work
.I will keep them on my recommend list though
Thanks
George
Lord Valve
common, sometimes marked "preamp out/power amp in") that's
where the processor goes.
LV
MICHAEL GASTER
I have to add in...
R-H has a 6 year warranty on all speakers amps and processors! another on
eof the many reasons why i went the way i did!!!
Michael
George Gleason
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and I will have to buy some r-h this summer to hear what all the fuss is
about
have used a box like the 2x8+1 for a church single center on a overhead
beam
they are quite happy with it but the 8s were slightly slanted away from the
horn great box.
Now I just got to do my usual pricing to keep you honest lol George
Pete Kerezman
>I should add that the Celestion processor is also connected
>to the speaker lines; it tastes the output of the power amp
>and applies the necessary mojo if it looks like things are
>going to get dicey for the drivers.
>
I checked out the celestion web thang. When i saw "regular" in/out,
*and* speaker lines i got all confused. As i understand it now, you
hook the processor audio up to the output of the last gizmo before the
amps in yer existing chain, *and* you run the amp's speaker outputs
through it as well.
michael gaster
they have 2 different single 8 boxes no 10's in the line with the exception
to mid drivers used in their large 3 ways as far as the single 8"s the
options are the TRC-81 and the 81/H (for high O/P) and the SR81 go to the
attached link and scroll down.
Michael
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