Bad Mixer Choice
dance scentsless
was/am a novice. It seemed to be sufficient for what I needed, until I
actually started trying to use some of those extra channels.
Its got four mono channels, and four stereo channels. Only two of those
stereo channels accept mike inputs. The other two stereo channels are
for something like keyboards or effects modules. -10db inputs.
So, I've really only got 6 channels I can use.
I'd like to stay in the $300-500 range if possible.
I'm looking right now at the Peavey PV14 mixer, but it doesn't seem to
have monitor outputs that I can tell. One thing I like about this unit
above the Yamaha is the input ports are on top of the unit, not behind it.
I don't know if this is realistic on units in my price range, but it
would be nice if I had selectable phantom power per channel. That way,
if I ever wanted to use condensor mikes, I could do so, and still have
our fiddle equalizers still get power from the board.
Any ideas?
dance scentsless
> I'm looking right now at the Peavey PV14 mixer, but it doesn't seem to
> have monitor outputs that I can tell.
Its got control room outputs. Same thing I guess.
dance scentsless
> I don't know if this is realistic on units in my price range, but it
> would be nice if I had selectable phantom power per channel. That way,
> if I ever wanted to use condensor mikes, I could do so, and still have
> our fiddle equalizers still get power from the board.
I think this comment proves my novice status.
Ole Johansen Sjurdal
can be used either as mono mic inputs or stereo line input.
So the Yamaha mixer accepts either 4 mono and 4 stereo, 5 mono and 3 stereo
or 6 mono and 2 stereo depending on your needs. The stereo inputs will only
acdept line level signals. You can't use both the stereo and mic inputs at
the same time, The mixer you have now has one monitor send(AUX) plus one
effects send. The effects send can send either to the internal FX unit or to
an output jack to feed an external device.
What is it you want this mixer to do that it isn't? Do you need 8 mic
inputs? Get the MG 16/6 FX. It has 8 straight mic/mono channels and 4 stereo
line inputs. It has 2 monitor outputs and one FX send........
I can't see anything the Peavey mixer would do better than the one you have
now except it has more mic inputs. I haven't tested the Peavey so I can't
comment on the sound quality but doubt they make an FX unit as good as the
Yamaha has.....
Ole
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TimPerry
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> was/am a novice. It seemed to be sufficient for what I needed, until I
> actually started trying to use some of those extra channels.
>
> Its got four mono channels, and four stereo channels. Only two of those
> stereo channels accept mike inputs. The other two stereo channels are
> for something like keyboards or effects modules. -10db inputs.
>
> So, I've really only got 6 channels I can use.
>
> I'd like to stay in the $300-500 range if possible.
>
> I'm looking right now at the Peavey PV14 mixer, but it doesn't seem to
> have monitor outputs that I can tell. One thing I like about this unit
> above the Yamaha is the input ports are on top of the unit, not behind it.
>
> I don't know if this is realistic on units in my price range, but it
> would be nice if I had selectable phantom power per channel.
rare in this size mixer. its all or none
That way,
> if I ever wanted to use condensor mikes, I could do so, and still have
> our fiddle equalizers still get power from the board.
>
> Any ideas?
>
take a look at Soundcraft EPM mixers.
http://www.soundcraft.com/product_sheet.asp?product_id=136
Taunto
>
> take a look at Soundcraft EPM mixers.
> http://www.soundcraft.com/product_sheet.asp?product_id=136
>
>
That name sounds so cheesy, I'm afraid of their stuff. I know, totally
emotional response.
Taunto
> The yamaha 12/4FX has 4 mono and 4 stereo channels. 2 of the stereo channels
> can be used either as mono mic inputs or stereo line input.
> So the Yamaha mixer accepts either 4 mono and 4 stereo, 5 mono and 3 stereo
> or 6 mono and 2 stereo depending on your needs. The stereo inputs will only
> acdept line level signals. You can't use both the stereo and mic inputs at
> the same time, The mixer you have now has one monitor send(AUX) plus one
> effects send. The effects send can send either to the internal FX unit or to
> an output jack to feed an external device.
>
> What is it you want this mixer to do that it isn't?
I ran out of mono inputs.
> Do you need 8 mic
> inputs? Get the MG 16/6 FX. It has 8 straight mic/mono channels and 4 stereo
> line inputs. It has 2 monitor outputs and one FX send........
During part of our set, one guy switches off of accordion to second
rhythm guitar, and does some vocals. So, when he does that, I need two
extra mono inputs. Right now, we're maxed out at 6: two fiddles, one
guitar, two vocal mikes, one instrument mike.
I'm thinking we'll just let him go through his amp for that portion.
I thought of daisy-chaining in another small mixer, but that seems so
lame. I think I'll go with the cheap route now.
We're trying to record through the board, so we can see how we sound,
but we really don't need to record the second guitar.
Bob Howes
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Well, your emotion is going to cause you to ignore one of the two best
manufacturers of inexpensive mixers, the other being Allen & Heath.
My advice would be, if you can afford it go for Soundcraft or A&H; if you
can't then buy a Behringer with the right number of inputs for you. Don't
worry too much about global Phantom switching: so long as your dyamic mics
are balanced output and wired properly, the presence of phantom will be no
problem at all.
Don't move from Yamaha to Peavey; this is a downwards step.
Bob
dance scentsless
> "Taunto" <no...@notme.com> wrote in message
> news:43f9475b$0$58072$742e...@news.sonic.net...
>
>>>take a look at Soundcraft EPM mixers.
>>>http://www.soundcraft.com/product_sheet.asp?product_id=136
>>>
>>>
>>
>>That name sounds so cheesy, I'm afraid of their stuff. I know, totally
>>emotional response.
>
>
> Well, your emotion is going to cause you to ignore one of the two best
> manufacturers of inexpensive mixers, the other being Allen & Heath.
No, Allen and Heath sounds professional to me.
Is there some source, online or not, that compares the quality of these
companies or similar units? I know CNET has some stuff, not sure about
this particular category though.
TimPerry
> Bob Howes wrote:
> > "Taunto" <no...@notme.com> wrote in message
> > news:43f9475b$0$58072$742e...@news.sonic.net...
> >
> >>>take a look at Soundcraft EPM mixers.
> >>>http://www.soundcraft.com/product_sheet.asp?product_id=136
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>That name sounds so cheesy, I'm afraid of their stuff. I know, totally
> >>emotional response.
> >
odd, that's what i used to think about Behringer. now i recommend and
install them.
> >
> > Well, your emotion is going to cause you to ignore one of the two best
> > manufacturers of inexpensive mixers, the other being Allen & Heath.
>
> No, Allen and Heath sounds professional to me.
>
the smallest A & H will break your budget.
> Is there some source, online or not, that compares the quality of these
> companies or similar units? I know CNET has some stuff, not sure about
> this particular category though.
>
that would be here.
Mike Dobony
Not the same thing.