clearcom headsets
BOB URZ
for high noise environments (single channel). The clearcom 60 looks kind
of cheapo. The byer DT109's have been around for ever, but i am not
a huge fan of them. Thoughts? both durability and sound quality are
desired
with the extra isolation for loud shows.
BOB
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Brandon Anderson
rebuild 3 of them, one with an electret mic and a AA battery strapped to it.
And with only two beltpack, there is only so much you can do. I ended up
using the mixer as a headset distro, using some mics on booms for the mics
and headphones as the, well, headphones. That way the sound op could
preview a cue while listening to the SM and whatever else at the same time,
too (including a stage monitor mic for those who had double muffs and could
not hear it otherwise)! But no, I don't have a favorite, sorry.
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Richard Crowley
> Taking a pole on what your favorite clearcom double
> muff headset is for high noise environments (single channel).
I find my military surplus (Air Force, I think) headsets
with noise-cancelling mic are ideal for loud shows.
I modified them for Clearcom wiring/connector.
I also built my own beltpacks (because I'm really cheap
and it was a neat project.) Details online at...
http://www.rcrowley.com/ComClone/default.htm
oldsoundguy
Built my OWN for the high noise areas .. using David Clarks with
Sennheiser earpiece units and Viet Nam era noise canceling/high
threshold microphones .. the kind used by hellicopter operators that I
scavaged from surplus units. The poor schmucks that had to work in
the truss work over the stage loved them!! for the Audio operators we
used the SINGLE earpiece Byer units. Also had two "speaker" units
that sat on the floor .. one for the green room and one for whatever.
Plus a rack mount unit for the FOH that kept the main desk operator
headset free. We still had the dt 109's for all other activities ..
they ARE comfortable and the mic element is broadcast quality.
BOB URZ
Richard Crowley wrote:
I have been to your site and found it very interesting and many good
links. This is a new venue, and i don't want to resort to un orthodox
methods and want to use something off the shelf. If it was mine
personally,
it would be a different story.
BOB URZ
oldsoundguy wrote:
Nothing against the sound quality of the byers, but in the past i have found
them less than robust in durability. As i told Richard, i would prefer to use
off the shelf in a new venue. The military surplus mike are an interesting
idea. A local surplus place has these periodically. But it looked like they
had carbon mikes on them. I will have to look closer next time.
Richard Crowley
> The military surplus mike are an interesting
> idea. A local surplus place has these periodically. But it looked like
they
> had carbon mikes on them. I will have to look closer next time.
I think all the "current" (last 20 years?) ones are dynamic.
oldsoundguy
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>Nothing against the sound quality of the byers, but in the past i have found
>them less than robust in durability. As i told Richard, i would prefer to use
>
>off the shelf in a new venue. The military surplus mike are an interesting
>idea. A local surplus place has these periodically. But it looked like they
>had carbon mikes on them. I will have to look closer next time.
>
>BOB
>
>
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Agreed on the durability factor .. I was constantly replacing one part
ot another (but I lucked out as I found a BOX full of elements both
mic and ear piece at a store when it went belly up) .. I STILL have
parts 20 years later!!. The David Clarks may be the way to go for you
if you are letting others other than you own crew to use them. The
FIDELITY of the off the shelf DC's was the reasion I originally went
with the Beyers .. but that may have (and probably has) changed over
the years. BUT the PRICE of the DC's is dear .. the cups alone demand
a high price even on eBay!! (and getting a Clear Com belt pack rebuilt
is another story in and of itself .. ain't cheap!!)
Shaun
> Taking a pole on what your favorite clearcom double muff headset is
> for high noise environments (single channel). The clearcom 60 looks kind
"Taking a pole" sounds a little, um, suspicious... ;)
> of cheapo. The byer DT109's have been around for ever, but i am not
> a huge fan of them. Thoughts? both durability and sound quality are
> desired
> with the extra isolation for loud shows.
I use genuine CC-95 and CC-260 headsets, and RS-501 beltpacks (single
channel). ClearCom has good build quality, and are comfortable yet rugged.
Their mics do a "fair" job of noise cancellation, but it helps to have the
base station close to set sidetone, gain, etc. I find that I prefer the
dual-muff 260; when I need the comm's at FOH, I put them on. At monitors,
I'll wear them more, but I rarely mix mon's. During a typical show, it's
nice to be able to pick up a single-muff and hold it briefly to your ear,
take care of the message, and drop it again. Hardly ever wear them for long
periods. Corporate, theatre, video/FLG stuff is a different story. Then
you usually need dual-channel beltpacks, and a multi-channel base station.
For my needs, single was fine, but I do have the good base station, just in
case (thanks Jimi).
--
Shaun Wexler,
MacFOH
http://www.macfoh.com
BOB URZ
Shaun wrote:
At the venue, they have some of the dual CC260 in the
dual channel config. So they will not fit the signal channel
belt packs (not without a connector change)
These particular ones are for the IA spot operators 110'
in the air. They complained about the single muff CC-95's
i have a few bastardized dual channel units up there. But since
there hooked to only one com channel, they only get one muff of
sound. The 60's which are touted as a higher noise isolation,
look cheap. Are these clearcom, or a rebadged OEM?
Shaun
> At the venue, they have some of the dual CC260 in the
> dual channel config. So they will not fit the signal channel
> belt packs (not without a connector change)
> These particular ones are for the IA spot operators 110'
> in the air. They complained about the single muff CC-95's
> i have a few bastardized dual channel units up there. But since
> there hooked to only one com channel, they only get one muff of
> sound. The 60's which are touted as a higher noise isolation,
> look cheap. Are these clearcom, or a rebadged OEM?
Mine are all the genuine article (Ye gets what ye pays fer). The CC-260 is
a stereo set, and monitors in stereo when used with a dual-channel pack,
base station or console (like a PV Mk 8 desk). All my headsets fit either
the 501 or 502 beltpacks; the headset connector is the same, only the 502
has one 6-pin instead of two standard 3-pin XLR's.
http://www.clearcom.com/products/partyline/headsets.html
I checked my comm's kit, and found that my single muff are all CC-40. They
work really well, and aren't flimsy at all. I also have a couple white HS-6
telephone-style handsets, and they're really nice to have, believe it or
not. A lot of times I'd rather use them than the cans. I do like the extra
comfort of the CC-260 mixing at FOH; it doesn't totally isolate you like the
CC-60's, but for mon's or anything loud/noisy, the CC-60 is the way to go.
MacKerr
They have very high isolation like the David Clarks, but are much more
comfortable and I think they are a little cheaper. Like the David Clarks they
use noise cancelling mic elements so the microphone must be positioned very
close to the lips, even touching. The biggest problem with comm in high noise
environments is usually noise in the system from open mics. Use of real noise
cancelling mics will help in this regard. If you have headsets with 6 pin
conectors, to monitor in stereo, ie ch A in left muff, ch B in right, you can
make a short adapter cable from 6 pin to 4 pin putting both earpeices on the
same pins.
Mac
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