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Roland BA330, any good?

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RickH

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Jul 7, 2011, 5:44:58 PM7/7/11
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I need a couple of small PA's to be used by the teachers in my dance
studio (approx 1000 square feet) also something that can be easily
thrown in the car to give dance lessons at other locations as well as
in studio. The other locations would be restaurants, bars, health
clubs, library, senior centers, homes, park district, hotel meeting
rooms, schools, etc. Not arena or gymnasium sized rooms.

I was thinking of this Roland unit:

http://www.roland.com/products/en/BA-330/

Has anyone heard it? Any other products I should consider? It should
accomodate two wireless microphones, a stereo input for the music and
occasionally a keyboard or mic'ed piano.

Phil Allison

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Jul 7, 2011, 9:31:24 PM7/7/11
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"RickH"

>
>I need a couple of small PA's to be used by the teachers in my dance
> studio (approx 1000 square feet) also something that can be easily
> thrown in the car to give dance lessons at other locations as well as
> in studio. The other locations would be restaurants, bars, health
> clubs, library, senior centers, homes, park district, hotel meeting
> rooms, schools, etc. Not arena or gymnasium sized rooms.
>
> I was thinking of this Roland unit:
>
> http://www.roland.com/products/en/BA-330/


** That is a battery operated toy - closely similar to Roland's " Street
Cube " busker amp.


> Has anyone heard it?

** Not many - cos it ain't loud enough.

> Any other products I should consider?


** Almost any AC powered speaker with a 10/12 inch bass driver and HF horn.

The things are just pouring out of China.


> It should
> accomodate two wireless microphones, a stereo input for the music and
> occasionally a keyboard or mic'ed piano.

** The Roland toy is way out of the game.

.... Phil

>


Peter Larsen

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Jul 8, 2011, 12:32:37 AM7/8/11
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Phil Allison wrote:
> "RickH"
>>
>> I need a couple of small PA's to be used by the teachers in my dance
>> studio (approx 1000 square feet) also something that can be easily
>> thrown in the car to give dance lessons at other locations as well as
>> in studio. The other locations would be restaurants, bars, health
>> clubs, library, senior centers, homes, park district, hotel meeting
>> rooms, schools, etc. Not arena or gymnasium sized rooms.
>>
>> I was thinking of this Roland unit:
>>
>> http://www.roland.com/products/en/BA-330/
>
>
> ** That is a battery operated toy - closely similar to Roland's "
> Street Cube " busker amp.

"Four custom-designed 6.5” speakers and two tweeters for wide stereo
projection"

>> Has anyone heard it?
>
> ** Not many - cos it ain't loud enough.
>
>> Any other products I should consider?
>
>
> ** Almost any AC powered speaker with a 10/12 inch bass driver and HF
> horn.
> The things are just pouring out of China.

+1

Kind regards

Peter Larsen

Phil Allison

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Jul 8, 2011, 12:37:33 AM7/8/11
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"Peter Larsen is a PITA wanker "

> Phil Allison wrote:
>
>>> I was thinking of this Roland unit:
>>>
>>> http://www.roland.com/products/en/BA-330/
>>
>>
>> ** That is a battery operated toy - closely similar to Roland's "
>> Street Cube " busker amp.
>
> "Four custom-designed 6.5" speakers and two tweeters for wide stereo
> projection"


** Your point is ??

The BA-330 runs on 8 AA cells and uses about 4 watts.

The "Street Cube" runs on 6 AA cells and use about 2 watts, it has a pair of
6.5 inch twin cone speakers.

Both units use tiny, class D amplifier chips and are chocka with SMD.

.... Phil

Getting Older and Grumpier Gear Minion

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Jul 8, 2011, 11:21:15 AM7/8/11
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I have a couiple of units from http://www.dbtechnologies.com/
The OPERA 110 mobile loudspeaker with the optional UHfF mic.
Work well enough in small spaces and outside for BG music
and anouncements. Sealed LA 12V battery similar to the
ones used in emergency lighting for restaurants/stores
when power grid fails. Not sure if the price is in your
budget range, but they are more affordable than the
comperable Anchor units. YMMV

RickH

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Jul 8, 2011, 11:48:14 AM7/8/11
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I liked that it was stereo, I would have to go mono with a powered
speaker. My next question is would this unit be better than a "boom
box" portable stereo, currently they bring a Sony "boom box" CD player
and raise their voices over that to give a group lesson. I wanted to
stay under 30lbs so the girls will not have a problem hauling it
around and the battery operation was a plus because then they would
not need to worry about plugging in, etc. just like the Sony CD boom
box they use today. And they could wear headset wireless microphones
instead of shouting. If the BA330 is not better than a boom box I'm
wondering if I can somehow plug the headsets into the Sony boom box we
have but I guess I would need small mixers and such to play mics and
mp3 player into the CD boom box which only has one AUX input. The
BA330 goes up to 109db in volume, I would think that is loud enough
right? That should be louder even than a Sony portable CD player
right?

Rupert

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Jul 8, 2011, 5:09:34 PM7/8/11
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So called "stereo" out of a small cube isn't real stereo, may as well
be mono. You would be far better off with a single, true high output
speaker in mono than that contraption. Without horn loaded high
frequency drivers, you won't have much useable output of high/high mid
frequencies. Phil is correct, it's a crap box. And 109dB 1) isn't very
loud and b) no useful qualification of that number is given so it
almost means nothing. It's a glorified ghetto blaster. Anything that
can run off of 8xAA batteries isn't going to be very useful. Get a
decent powered speaker and a small, inexpensive mixer and call it a
day.

Rupert

Richard Webb

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Jul 9, 2011, 1:18:35 AM7/9/11
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On Fri 2011-Jul-08 17:09, Rupert writes:
> Phil is correct, it's a crap box. And 109dB 1) isn't
> very loud and b) no useful qualification of that number is given so
> it almost means nothing. It's a glorified ghetto blaster. Anything
> that can run off of 8xAA batteries isn't going to be very useful. Get
> a decent powered speaker and a small, inexpensive mixer and call it a
> day.

I'm with him here. Get one decent powered speaker, a small
mixer and whatever the music playback source is. YOur dance instructor gals can surely bring in a powered speaker, and
maybe a small rack with a mixer and their chosen playback
device, and a microphone of some sort of course. FOrget the cheesy battery powered boombox world. After all, if they
can't find a wall outlet and connect microphone to mixer,
power for the system to a wall outlet, etc. then you've got
a problem. Mono isn't really going to kill what you're
trying to do.

Regards,
Richard
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Ron

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Jul 9, 2011, 6:26:10 AM7/9/11
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On 09/07/2011 06:18, Richard Webb wrote:
> On Fri 2011-Jul-08 17:09, Rupert writes:
>> Phil is correct, it's a crap box. And 109dB 1) isn't
>> very loud and b) no useful qualification of that number is given so
>> it almost means nothing. It's a glorified ghetto blaster. Anything
>> that can run off of 8xAA batteries isn't going to be very useful. Get
>> a decent powered speaker and a small, inexpensive mixer and call it a
>> day.
>
> I'm with him here. Get one decent powered speaker, a small
> mixer and whatever the music playback source is. YOur dance instructor gals can surely bring in a powered speaker, and
> maybe a small rack with a mixer and their chosen playback
> device, and a microphone of some sort of course. FOrget the cheesy battery powered boombox world. After all, if they
> can't find a wall outlet and connect microphone to mixer,
> power for the system to a wall outlet, etc. then you've got
> a problem. Mono isn't really going to kill what you're
> trying to do.
>
> Regards,
> Richard


If battery power isn't a real requirement, a Yamaha StagePas300 would do
the job cheaper and better.

Ron(UK)

Peter Larsen

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Jul 9, 2011, 11:44:43 AM7/9/11
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Phil Allison wrote:

>> "Four custom-designed 6.5" speakers and two tweeters for wide stereo
>> projection"

> ** Your point is ??

Ah, well, if you didn't get it, then forget it.

> .... Phil

Kind regards

Peter Larsen

RickH

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Jul 11, 2011, 12:00:46 PM7/11/11
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Thanks,

Its probably going to be either the Yamaha Stage Pass 300, or the
Fender Passport 150.

And some wireless headset mics.


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