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Joe Lawrence

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Aug 18, 2003, 8:46:22 PM8/18/03
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What's a high quality stage use mic & line cable? I've been using Canare
L-4E6S for all my balanced rack cables and Canare GS-6 for guitar and non
balanced.Seems like good cable. Most of my mic lines are OLD belden and
should I stick with the L-4E6S for mics? I'd like to use a high quality
cable for lead vocal and since I'm mixing from stage (no snake-short run) a
decent cable could an audible difference.How about Belden 1800F or Mogami
or other? Also the Canare L-2T2S ? Does it really matter or am I just
wasting energy?

Joe L
No Fancy Title


oldsoundguy

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Aug 18, 2003, 9:04:13 PM8/18/03
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In my opinion, most of the time it is a waste of bucks for the Canare
or the Mogami unless you need a set of very good cables to use in an
area of HIGH RF emissions (the old Marine World in Redwood City, CA
was a prime example of that) I have several hundred cables and patch
cables I made from Belden 8412 that have seen years of use and abuse.
The true key is the quality of the soldering job you do on the
connector .. the best cable in the world won't funcion as it supposed
to through a cold solder joint!!

Thomas Bishop

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Aug 19, 2003, 2:07:25 AM8/19/03
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"oldsoundguy" <soun...@comcast.net> wrote in message

> In my opinion, most of the time it is a waste of bucks for the Canare
> or the Mogami unless you need a set of very good cables to use in an
> area of HIGH RF emissions

Markertek sells Canare Star Quad cable for $0.34 a foot. 8412 is $0.47 a
foot. Where do you buy your cables? Is the Canare more expensive than the
Belden there? What are the prices?


Joe Lawrence

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Aug 19, 2003, 2:29:11 AM8/19/03
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"oldsoundguy" <soun...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I'm very particular about my soldering.....as was my old electronics
teacher.He was a real hard ass about it and it really pissed me off at the
time. Now I know better!

I think most of my cables are 8412 but just getting too beat up. I won't
sweat it, I'll go for the best price.
Thanks for the advise.

Joe L
Hottest Guitarist...On My Block


Joe Lawrence

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Aug 19, 2003, 2:59:06 PM8/19/03
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"Thomas Bishop" <bishop...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Here in Alberta , Canada. I've been getting Canare at the music stores, the
electronic wholesalers are more expensive- even at large quantities.Best
price is $0.95Can$ per ft. The mgr at the store has been giving me a
discount ( approx 15% ) also.I found Digiflex NK2-6 at $0.72 ft at a
wholesaler but at 100' or more quantities.I don't know anything about the
Digiflex cable.
This is all local and I'm starting to look at other possibilities but I'd
have to factor in shipping ( and duties if US ).
Mostly I was looking for descent quality bulk and a high quality 20' for
lead vocal.

Joe L


Joe Lawrence

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Aug 19, 2003, 3:05:47 PM8/19/03
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"Joe Lawrence" <gu...@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
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BTW, I haven't found anyone local yet that sells the Belden, except for pre-
made cables at the music store (Long & McQuade) .


Pat Janes

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Aug 19, 2003, 3:21:49 PM8/19/03
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In article <fyu0b.15559$at3.11762@edtnps84>,
"Joe Lawrence" <gu...@telusplanet.net> wrote:

> BTW, I haven't found anyone local yet that sells the Belden, except for pre-
> made cables at the music store (Long & McQuade) .

What part of Alberta? You could try Anixter if you're in or near
Edmonton. If you're further south try Electro Sonic in Calgary. Both of
these places are Belden distributors.

E. Hill

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Aug 19, 2003, 3:34:01 PM8/19/03
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> Markertek sells Canare Star Quad cable for $0.34 a foot. 8412 is $0.47 a
> foot. Where do you buy your cables? Is the Canare more expensive than
the
> Belden there? What are the prices?

You can get 8412 cheaper than that. We pay $0.39 a foot from H.L. Dalis in
New York (500' spool). I've yet to see anything more durable than the outer
jacket on 8412. I took flame to it once - it smoked a little, but it didn't
melt.

Eric


E. Hill

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Aug 19, 2003, 5:12:05 PM8/19/03
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> Tell me you didn't inhale....Just tell me...
>
> ;-)

lol.

Eric


FRETBUZZ

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Aug 19, 2003, 8:44:19 PM8/19/03
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Hi all
I've been following the thread and hope you don't mind me adding my opinion.

Over here in the UK I tend to make my own mic cables, guitar leads etc up
for myself - at least then I know the job's done right ;-)

I use cable manufactured by a company called "Van Damme" and I find this to
be very good quality, especially when used with "neutrik" xlr or jack plugs,
and it's good for mic cables for on stage use - mine are mostly 10metre to
allow for bigger stages or having to route round onstage equipment like
organs and drum kits that are permanently there and not part of the band
gear.

The last time I bought some of the Van Damme it cost £1.30 a metre - but
given the fact that we Brits are ripped off every which way, it could cost
less over there if it's available.

Regards

Fretbuzz

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nmm

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Aug 20, 2003, 1:24:59 AM8/20/03
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On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 2:05 pm, Joe Lawrence <mailto:gu...@telusplanet.net>
wrote:

>BTW, I haven't found anyone local yet that sells the Belden, except for
pre-
>made cables at the music store (Long & McQuade) .
>

Is your local store getting Canare from SF marketing? They distribute
Digiflex and Canare ( though there are some other Canadian outlets for
Canare, Glentronix.. and .. well a couple of others)

SF have really cheap prices on pre-made cables.. IT isn't worth making
your own Mic Cables with prices like theirs.

Unless like me you were doing an install and ran into a dumpster filled
with GEPCO Star-Quad, wich is really stiff becauuse of the strain relief,
but has a double braided shield and drain wire wich is nice ( for
soldering)


Joe Lawrence

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Aug 20, 2003, 2:37:50 AM8/20/03
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"Pat Janes" <cwn...@arjpbzz.arg> wrote in message
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Thanks Pat, I'm in Edmonton...I'll check out Anixter.Do you know if they
sell small quantities, 100' or less.


Joe Lawrence

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Aug 20, 2003, 2:49:51 AM8/20/03
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"FRETBUZZ" <fretb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Thanks to everyone that posted. I didn't think anyone from Canada was
posting on this ng, let alone in my area- Edmonton. I never expected
specific dealers in my city to be mentioned just maybe some cable
preferences...awesome.

Joe L


David Hoyle

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Aug 20, 2003, 3:08:16 AM8/20/03
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FRETBUZZ <fretb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all
> I've been following the thread and hope you don't mind me adding my
opinion.
>
> Over here in the UK I tend to make my own mic cables, guitar leads etc up
> for myself - at least then I know the job's done right ;-)
>
> I use cable manufactured by a company called "Van Damme" and I find this
to
> be very good quality, especially when used with "neutrik" xlr or jack
plugs,
>

More info on Van Damme here

http://www.vdctrading.com/

David


Pat Janes

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Aug 20, 2003, 10:23:33 AM8/20/03
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In article <2HE0b.18954$at3.12506@edtnps84>,
"Joe Lawrence" <gu...@telusplanet.net> wrote:

> Thanks Pat, I'm in Edmonton...I'll check out Anixter.Do you know if they
> sell small quantities, 100' or less.

I'd guess no. Places like anixter sell full boxes or rolls of cable.
You'd probably be looking at minimum quantities of 100m or 500'.

nmm

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Aug 21, 2003, 6:35:26 PM8/21/03
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Electrosonic will sell those lengths, if you can order from RAPCO, where
you are they have a Toronto office... i think there's one in
Winnipeg?????? think

Rapco will havea better price. Also Electrosonic only have Belden.

Glentronix have Canare.. and good prices (905)475-8494
http://www.glentronix.com

they'll be able to ship it to you in a day or two


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