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Magnus Jensen
Im new to this group, im from sweden and works with a company called made in
video, we make outside brodcasts video and sound.
Now i got this question, is there anyone who miced up a tato (military
orcestra) ? And would you maby tell me how you did ???
Magnus Jensen
Phildo
leave messy droppings everywhere.
I have a tattoo on my left arm but it doesn't make any noise so I've never
bothered sticking a mic on it.
As for a military orchestra, they are so mobile it's difficult to do it
without radio systems. Also the dynamic range they have means you need a
massively powerful sound system to reproduce that, same as with Orchestras
and brass bands. Better to try to reinforce the sound rather than amplify
it. Remember these bands were designed to project sound across a battlefield
so carry an awful lot by themselves. I did one military band in 1995 but
they were stationary on a stage and we used close micing on almost
everything. The system that day had pretty much everything going through it
so it was just a case of throw the mics on and do what we could.
Sorry I couldn't have been of more help. Anyone else have any experience?
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Phildo wrote:
> I did one military band in 1995 but
> they were stationary on a stage and we used close micing on almost
> everything. The system that day had pretty much everything going through it
> so it was just a case of throw the mics on and do what we could.
>
My experience was also on stage, immobile. As many mics as I had. Didn't really
need a lot though, they were pretty loud on their own.
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Måns Nilsson
>Hi all...
>Im new to this group, im from sweden and works with a company called made in
>video, we make outside brodcasts video and sound.
>
>Now i got this question, is there anyone who miced up a tato (military
>orcestra) ? And would you maby tell me how you did ???
Well, Magnus, apart from your spelling trouble [0] I'd say that a bunch of
condensers (not the zeppelins) suspended over the field on wires could do
it, assuming you are doing this for recording / broadcast. If there are
people in the vicinity with speakers getting sound from those microphones
it may get a bit hairier. Still, as Phil mentioned, .mil orchestras are
quite loud as they are, especially when they are in a marching situation
(as opposed to seated concert performance). I have done seated .mil
orchestras for TV, which (as the other guys also state) required a lot
of microphones. A single stero pair might do it, or perhaps a set of
hypers scattered around the field (as in sports), or perhaps a combi-
nation of both.
Try doing tests on other marching bands with just a stereo pair and
a DAT, to see if it works for you.
And be nice to my buses! :-)
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owdio
area with "shotgun"
microphones and maybe a couple of parabolic dishes. In a marching situation,
you need to take the attitude of capturing the whole area... "the
vibration", if you will, using your mics in zone coverage. Improvise. I used
to use one little PZM mic mounted to a piece of Plexiglas (from a cabinet in
the T.V. truck) to catch the stadium crowd noise (18-20,000 people). Instead
of getting individual voices and handclaps, it picked up the {{{vibration}}}
of the crowd. Worked great.
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Magnus Jensen <magnus...@mailbox.swipnet.se> wrote in message
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> Im new to this group, im from sweden and works with a company called made
in
> video, we make outside brodcasts video and sound.
> Now i got this question, is there anyone who miced up a tato (military
> orcestra) ? And would you maby tell me how you did ???
Chris
>Hi all...
>Im new to this group, im from sweden and works with a company called made in
>video, we make outside brodcasts video and sound.
>
>Now i got this question, is there anyone who miced up a tato (military
>orcestra) ? And would you maby tell me how you did ???
>
>Magnus Jensen
>
I've only done orchestra miking indoors; when I have done similar
things the company I was working with has a PILE of these older EV
condenser mics that are outstanding. What I do is place a mic for every
two or three chairs in each section for horns and woodwinds, make sure
there is a single mic for first chair players available to boost any
solo parts if needed. The placement is a few feet, nearly at the back
of the next row from the section. With flutes or even more importantly
double reeded woodwinds (oboes, bassoon etc.) you'll need to be a bit
closer.
Strings I used the same condensers but instead of using a short boom
from the floor up, I used an overhead type of setup, same thing about
one for two or three seats.
A warning, the first time is a bit sticky until you get a feel for all
the area mics being open at once....my first gig with this company was
something in the order of 34 mics at once and that was a moderate sized
setup for their norm. If at all possible get all your mics setup before
the players are seated and check each mic for max gain and get your
system rung out thoroughly. Low mid and low end room waves are no fun
at all with all those open mics trust me.
If your situation is strictly broadcast and not for sending through a PA
just grab a handfull of high end condensers and get them overhead and
gain away you'll be surprised if you can get some decent height how
nicely just turning up will do for these instruments. Outdoors you will
want windscreens on the mics almost certainly. Don't forget compression
especially if it is not a high caliber orchestra. Dynamic control of
the players, especially the brass section usually sucks unless you are
dealing with the upper level of players.
One last caveat, without a doubt doing symphony type gigs has introduced
me to the most insolent bunch of know nothings in regard to audio I have
ever met. They all think they are Julian Hirsch and start telling you
how they want things done because they own MacIntosh home stereos etc..
Easy way out, these arrogant bastards are not used to people with no
fear....i.e. normally their employees at the companies they own will
cower as they berate them, just tell them to get stuffed and they
dissappear for the rest of the day.
Jason Wilcox
Miking a military tattoo -
How big is the audience ? I know they are planning to have the Edinburgh
Tattoo here in Wellington New Zealand, as part of the Millenium
celebration. I have no idea if theyre going to be miked or not. But its
for a BIG crowd, in the thousands. So if anyone would know what to do it
would be them. You could try to contact them, to see how theyre going to
do it.
Good luck.
Lord Valve
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Fractured Fairytale, to wit:
>Hi all...
>Im new to this group, im from sweden and works with a company called
made in
>video, we make outside brodcasts video and sound.
>
>Now i got this question, is there anyone who miced up a tato (military
>orcestra) ? And would you maby tell me how you did ???
>
>Magnus Jensen
Lord Valve Speaketh:
Well, I have several recipes for hash; I've combined tatos with many
different meats, but I'm not so sure the flavors of tuber and
rodent would meld gracefully, although I have an uncle in Tennessee
who swears that opossum makes good hash. He buys ketchup by the
barrel, though. Perhaps you should ask Dan Quayle, since he is
undoubtedly an expert on the tato (or tatoe, if you prefer) by
now; at least, he doesn't spell it "tater" like the bunch that's
in there now...
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Bob Quintal
> Now i got this question, is there anyone who miced up a tato (military
> orcestra) ? And would you maby tell me how you did ???
>
> Magnus Jensen
Welcome to the group. If you mean to mic a tattoo we will want some
answers.
Will this be outside or in an arsenal (arena) ?
Will the soldiers be marching or standing still ?
I have done several military tattoos outside on a parade ground using
a shotgun type microphone aimed by an assistant from 20 meters in front
of the paraders, while I continuously adjusted the levels at the mixer.
If Inside, simply hang a cardioid microphone from the ceiling about 10
meters above the central point of the band.
The loudness of the band allows this distance without problems.
Bob Quintal
Les Productions Vaudreuil-Salaberry Inc.
Event and Video Production in Montreal Canada.
>
>
owdio
I think you've got it covered. Well done. Glad to see you'll try the
PZM/Plexiglass trick. One note: I took the plate off the PZM and mounted
just the mic peice dead center on the Plexiglass. But, if you are unable to
remove the mic from it's plate, it shouldn't make too much difference.
Cheers!
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Magnus Jensen <magnus...@mailbox.swipnet.se> wrote in message
> Thanks all for your greatful help....
> Sorry about my spelling... :-(
> It is a 8 cam OB, no moving cams, but in a square 80*60 m so i think i mic
> it up like this....
> 1 mkh 70 in each corner an mkh 60 in ever 10th m ( like football ).
> 1 816 moving on the ground.
> 2 KM 84 Entrence
> A B KM84 stereo pair
> A B mkh 60 stereo pair to get close audience
> 2 More mkh 60 one each side audience (to try)
> 1 PZM to try the thing with plexiglass
> And 4 Rf clipps on what comes upp moving on the square....
> What do you think ??
> Magnus Jensen