Great stuff heard at exhibition
Peter Larsen
I was at a local pro-stuff exhibition friday, there was PA too, must of
it sounded in a way that didn't really make you stop in your tracks, but
rather speed up to get away from the misery. However the stuff that
Martin Professional had at their stand actually sounded like real hifi.
It was difficult to not stick to that stand for quite some time, but
some people actually did that already and appeared immersed in so deep a
discussion with the crew there that waiting for a time slot did not make
sense,
I might have done so if I had been alone at the exhibition, but Concert
Sound Reinforcement was not a major interest of the company I was in.
Said company did however agree that "yes, it sounds very good" and add
"I wonder why the other exhibitors are not aware of the misery of their
sonic displays, but they are sales people, and it is their job to
demonstrate it as best they can, you are in fact right, it is the
quality of good home sound, nice and open."
Don't get me wrong, I'm biased, Martin Professional is a danish company,
and of course I want our balance of trade to improve. I don't know if
they have anything to do with Martin in the UK (if still exists), but I
do not think so. But you might want to take a look at their site:
http://www.mach.dk, the stuff is called Mach. It is not a site I have
visited, I heard the stuff, I don't know if it will work in real life
for any given application, but you might want to put it on your "listen
to when available" list. I somehow have a feeling that it may not be
cheap. But the sound was open and appealing at the - fortunately -
moderate level they were all allowed to use, and openness is a rare
attribute with Concert Sound Reinforcement stuff, it simply sounded very
good indeed.
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Steve Wood
I spent an afternoon with the guys that designed the MACH Slingshot system
last year at PLASA.
After listening to the TANNOY cinema gear and being dissapointed with the
time allignment at top end, listening to the MACH gear was a revalation.
Pro PA gear just doesn't sound that good as a rule.
OK so listening in a small booth to long throw PA is hardly a relistic test.
but the quality was very evident.
Not once did i hear any phase or timing errors, and the depth and punch from
the two 18" bass horns was unreal.
If your looking for new PA listen to this stuff
Peter Larsen <pla...@teliamail.dk> wrote in message
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Peter Larsen
Steve Wood wrote:
>
> Peter
> I spent an afternoon with the guys that designed the MACH Slingshot system
> last year at PLASA.
> After listening to the TANNOY cinema gear and being dissapointed with the
> time allignment at top end, listening to the MACH gear was a revalation.
> Pro PA gear just doesn't sound that good as a rule.
> OK so listening in a small booth to long throw PA is hardly a relistic test.
> but the quality was very evident.
It was not a booth, they - and several other PA suppliers - had simply
flown a complete rig of the units to build one from, and it was only
""muzak"" level (mostly). The difference was what happened to once
walking speed .....
> Not once did i hear any phase or timing errors, and the depth and punch from
> the two 18" bass horns was unreal.
I did hear them fiddle a bit to demonstrate the cross-over. and thus
also a few moments with the bass raised considerably. As far as compact
high SPL designs go, yes, quite good, probably as good as it
gets. As far as high quality bass goes in the quality unlimited
category, laws of nature has some points it wishes to make with any
compact horn. One of them is that having an opinion on hearing only one
horn is not at all relevant.
The issues I had with the bass might not be there with a full stack of
say 8 bass horns. Because then there would not be any reflections back
into the horn. With one horn in a hall that takes 2 stacks of 8 or 16 to
handle, then one cabinet is as so big a disadvantage that I do not wish
to be quoted for having had any opinion. The situation in a booth - if
rigid enough - might be different. As for the cabinets themselves, there
were no "early signs" of woodwork sloppiness, and if cabinets are not
rigid enough and not panel resonance free, then it will be quite audible
even at very moderate sound pressure level. Either it resonates and
flexes or it doesn't. It did not appear to do either.
[warning! complex structure ahead!]
What stopped my feet was the open and clear midrange and upper midrange.
It is good when you start listening for IC opamp characteristics,
thinking back I might want to solder, because when such things, and then
perhaps a bit of the time "fuzziness", that always comes when a grid in
front of a high range section adds virtual multiple treble sources. are
the most noticeable problems, then it is so good that you start applying
home audio criterial. It is only the second PA I have ever heard where
such could be applied.
[you can go back to usenet reading speed now!]
> If your looking for new PA listen to this stuff
Yup. And they have an installers range with smaller cabinets too. As for
the price, and thus for the cost efficiency, I'll leave that to others,
earning efficiency is also a part of the required math.