Washing Up Liquid in Vinyl Decks and Mixer
Phildo
their gear got trashed NYE. Have told them as much as I know but maybe
someone here has some specific advice?
Cheers
Phildo
George Gleason
that term in refrence to sound gear
george
Dan Mills
> What is a vinal deck, I have one behind my house , but I am not aware of
> that term in refrence to sound gear
> george
I think it is a yoof slang term referring to a gramophone.
I would suggest lots of fresh water (possibly followed by DI water), then
dry **really** well. The slide bars inside the desks faders may need a
LITTLE lubrication (but keep it off the electrical contact surfaces).
This is known to work (at least sometimes) for mixers - it helps it you can
pull just the contaminated channel strips, I am not sure what to suggest
for the gramophones.
Regards, Dan.
Jim
"Phildo" <Ph...@phildo.net> wrote in message
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I assume we are speaking of turntables and a DJ mixer.
I'd suggest a wet rag (just wet, not soaked) and wiped it down, remove the
fader knobs and get wiped there too, i'd suggest, if its possible to remove
the mixer plate and just clean it by its self with water. if stuff got in
the faders and pots, then get some fader cleaner from any DJ suppy company
and spray it in there and work the faders a little.
As for the turntables, if the slip mats are dirty, toss them and get knew
ones, wipe the platter with a rag and (mild) soapy water. dry imediatley.
Jim
TimPerry
"Jim" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message news:fcGCd.11389$6b3....@fe04.lga...
its now 4 days after NYE. if the bear, wine, soda or whatever has had time
to dry you are now have a big problem. this is assuming that someone poured
a glass or pitcher of liquid into the equipment. (i'd assume a minor spill
would just be cleaned up and no mention made further)
the mixer needs to be disassembled, the faders removed and replaced (or
disassembled and cleaned and lubed as needed) then the boards cleaned and
dried. contaminants that have worked their way under ICs are especially hard
to clean up.
assuming its the usual Gemini/Numark type mixer its about a 2 hour job for
an experienced tech (and probably 6 or 8 for the average guy in the street.
it is much much easier to clean up these messes if it is not allowed time to
dry out.
Lord Valve
Phildo wrote:
What liquid?
LV
Phildo
"Lord Valve" <detr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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No, it's not what flows in Phil Allison's veins but a rather corrosive
dishwasher detergent available over here.
The mixer I'm OK with, it's the desks that are the problem. They got soaked
in the stuff.
Phildo
Chad Wahls
Technics? Unplug, Pull up on the platter, If it does not come free take the
ass end of a screwdriver and tap lightly on the spindle. Remove as much of
the crud as possible. Start with water to remove/dilute the detergent, if
it seems to have gotten under the plastic cover protecting the electronics
then pull that off and get the rest of the crud. Most likely the
electronics have been protected from the platter and the fact they sit up
off the bottom, it's just a pain to clean up the crud because there are so
many crannies and nooks.
As for the tonearm mechanism, the height adjustment system uses a very
viscous grease, since the detergent is likely a degreaser lets hope for now
that none got down that crack, if the mechanism moves up and down ok and
does not bind hard or feel gritty then raise it all the way and clean that
collar off. Try not to use anything too aggressave in this area. Tonearm
gimballs can be done with a cotton swab and mild soap and water, not soaked,
just what it takes. It will take some time but it's not killer work.
If it got in the pitch control replace it, they are not that expensive (no
Penny&Giles) and very improtant to mixing (as you know) A dicked up pitch
fader can be a nightmare for a DJ and it's worth replacement. After
replacement you will have to reset the non-lock zero with the potentiometer
on that board. The bottom will have to be removed to do this, this can be a
pain in the ass. The proper way to set this is with a freq counter, but it
can be done with the strobes, let me know if you need to go this far.
FYI If it's a regular club unit and old it may be niccotine stained. I have
found the best thing to get this off of any audio equipment is something
called "grunge off" or "grunge out" can't remember which. It can be found
where pot smoking stuff is found and is used to clean resin out of bongs,
etc. It is a white powder that you mix with water and is quite mild as to
not remove lettering but will get the yellow off lickety-split.
Tips:
Don't power up with the platter off
Check for two "zeros" on the pitch control.
Have patience, it may not look new but they are quite easy to get up again
in factory spec, they do spin right?
Chad
Dale Farmer
Phildo wrote:
If it's dishwasher detergent, then just lots and lots of warm fresh water,
preferably deionized or distilled. Get some lab bottles with fine tip nozzles,
make sure you get underneath things like ICs and pots.
Pots may be salvagable if immediately cleaned and relubed.
--Dale
Axle
I have washed circuit boards in warm water and a detergent called simple
green which is similar to dishwashing liquid.
You can gently wash and warm air dry them. The object is to avoid
oxidisation.
The pots are more of a problem, but theres only the speed slider and
thats a readily available spare.
You can lift the platter castings out of 1200s and clean underneath
quite easily, but if the circuit boards are already corroded it might be
a write off.
If you are lucky it hasn't dripped that far, being fairly viscous.
Take it to whoever you can find that services them in quantity, they
will have spares and substitutes from write-offs available
TimPerry
"TimPerry" <timp...@noaspamadelphia.net> wrote in message
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the spell checker did it and thats the bare truth.
Lord Valve
Phildo wrote:
Dishwasher detergent.
Damn, that's nasty. I'd try distilled water, lots of it. The main problem
you're going to have is with anything that was (normally) lubricated,
as dishwasher detergent is absolute hell on oil or grease of any
kind. I don't think you'll ever be able to get it completely out of the
bearings, motor, etc.
Junk 'em.
LV
Peter Larsen
> What would use to clean them up?
Cold tap water - let it run a few minutes first - and/or demineralized
water. The cold tap worked fine with a tv-remote and a computer keyboard
that I got some fruit juice on. I applied it immediately fearing that
the sugar would otherwise make it way into everything.
> Have some friends wanting to know after
> their gear got trashed NYE.
Your subject header can be read to imply that it was contaminated with
washing up liquid? - but new years even suggests other kinds of foamy or
bubbly stuff.
> Have told them as much as I know but maybe
> someone here has some specific advice?
Generally it is not being wet from pure water that is dangerous for
equipment - the drying period is the risky one, it is then that metals
can oxidize and it is in drying that gunk will re-deposit. Moderate
warmth and good airflow is strongly recommended. A few drops of clean
vinegar - the cheap stuff that is just diluted acetic acid and contains
no added colouring or spicing - will help by increasing the surface
tension of water so that it lets go of surfaces rather than cling to
them, but too much acid can of course be problematic, so in this context
it is a "perhaps not". In the context of washing up vinyl it is a very
useful lil' ploy tho' ....
No guarantee of any kind, having waited so long with doing anything is
baaaad, it is way easier to remove liquids while they are, instead of
doing it when they have dried up to unspecified gunk.
The folks over in rec.audio.tech may know me wrong about some of this,
so they get a cross-post.
> Phildo
Kind regards
Peter Larsen
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Peter Larsen
> What would use to clean them up?
Cold tap water - let it run a few minutes first - and/or demineralized
water. The cold tap worked fine with a tv-remote and a computer keyboard
that I got some fruit juice on. I applied it immediately fearing that
the sugar would otherwise make it way into everything.
> Have some friends wanting to know after
> their gear got trashed NYE.
Your subject header can be read to imply that it was contaminated with
washing up liquid? - but new years even suggests other kinds of foamy or
bubbly stuff.
> Have told them as much as I know but maybe
> someone here has some specific advice?
Generally it is not being wet from pure water that is dangerous for
equipment - the drying period is the risky one, it is then that metals
can oxidize and it is in drying that gunk will re-deposit. Moderate
warmth and good airflow is strongly recommended. A few drops of clean
vinegar - the cheap stuff that is just diluted acetic acid and contains
no added colouring or spicing - will help by increasing the surface
tension of water so that it lets go of surfaces rather than cling to
them, but too much acid can of course be problematic, so in this context
it is a "perhaps not". In the context of washing up vinyl it is a very
useful lil' ploy tho' ....
No guarantee of any kind, having waited so long with doing anything is
baaaad, it is way easier to remove liquids while they are, instead of
doing it when they have dried up to unspecified gunk.
The folks over in rec.audio.tech may know me wrong about some of this,
so they now get a cross-post.
Phildo
"Peter Larsen" <SPAMSHIEL...@mail.tele.dk> wrote in message
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>> Have some friends wanting to know after
>> their gear got trashed NYE.
>
> Your subject header can be read to imply that it was contaminated with
> washing up liquid? - but new years even suggests other kinds of foamy or
> bubbly stuff.
>
uninvited guests decided to trash the place using washing up liquid and coco
pops.
Phildo
Lord Valve
Phildo wrote:
Please excuse my fat Yank arse, but -
Is "washing up liquid" like dish soap? Joy, Fab, stuff like that?
And WTF is a "coco pop?" Sounds disgusting.
Lord Valve
Baffled
Jim
I would imagine "washing up liquid" being soap. and "coco pops" being a
choclatey breakfast cereal available at a super market near you. Althoughi
could be wrong.
Jim
Phildo
http://www.eu.pg.com/ourbrands/fairy.html
> And WTF is a "coco pop?" Sounds disgusting.
Depends on which band you are touring with. Normally it's a chocolate rice
breakfast cereal that turns the milk brown which kids seem to love but I've
known bands smoke joints they call coco pops into which they have sprinkled
some mysterious white powder.
Phildo
Phildo
>
> "Lord Valve" <detr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:41F17E83...@ix.netcom.com...
>> Is "washing up liquid" like dish soap? Joy, Fab, stuff like that?
>
> http://www.eu.pg.com/ourbrands/fairy.html
>
Valveykins ;-)
Phildo
Lord Valve
Phildo wrote:
> "Lord Valve" <detr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:41F17E83...@ix.netcom.com...
> > Is "washing up liquid" like dish soap? Joy, Fab, stuff like that?
>
> http://www.eu.pg.com/ourbrands/fairy.html
Mmmmm....no fairies for me, thanks.
> > And WTF is a "coco pop?" Sounds disgusting.
>
> Depends on which band you are touring with. Normally it's a chocolate rice
> breakfast cereal that turns the milk brown which kids seem to love but I've
> known bands smoke joints they call coco pops into which they have sprinkled
> some mysterious white powder.
Cocoa PUFFS! That's what they call the hideous things over here. UGH!
LV
>
>
> Phildo
Lord Valve
Phildo wrote:
Yeah, well...I reckon I can see something called "Fairy" selling in England...
LV
Bob Urz
I remember when i was in London a number of years ago passing a pet shop
with the sign "Gay Dogs" on it. And a Fag was something your smoked.
And don't even ask what a "Johnny" was.
No wonder they drive on the wrong side of the road...... ;)
Bob