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Yamaha MG 24/14FX vs other affordable mixing desks?

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Shawn

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Feb 20, 2004, 9:51:11 AM2/20/04
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Has anyone seen or heard the new Yamaha MG24/14FX mixer? It is a larger
format than their smaller
MG 10/12/16 channels units. They are a 24 channel 4 buss board with 2 SPX
processors built in. Usually when something
seems too good to be true, it usually is not true. I have about a 1000
dollar budget, +/- a few hundred either way to complete a middle school
sound system. (I am leaning Peavey or Yamaha at this point)

The other considered options are:

Above listed Yamaha
Peavey RQ 4324C
Allen and Heath 16:2 (wish they made a mix wiz 24:4 or 16:4)
Allen and heath PA20 (how many submix/buss is this?)
Mackie 1604VLZ
Mackie CFX16

Some of these would require an efx processor, and that being the case I am
figuring a TC Electronic M300. (Love that piece)

The A+H PA20 is kind of a mystery as I haven't actually seen it. Where the
submix is ually located, there is two faders called F/B which I assume means
Foldback. These are dedicated monitor faders I assume? You see I need a
submix or an aux for side or rears speakers for spoken audio when a band is
not playing to help spread the sound around without blowing anyone away.

Your opinions are appreciated!

Shawn


Rigel Russell

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Feb 20, 2004, 10:54:59 AM2/20/04
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"Shawn" <spf...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Hi Shawn,

I've just done some research of available boards in the $1000 price range.
I'll send you my little comparison spreadsheet (Excel) if you want (email me
directly). If you need 24 mic channels, you'll have to go to the 32 channel
Yamaha - eight of the channels that are counted are on four stereo channels.
So, the Yamaha MG24/14FX gives you 16mic pres + 4 stereo channels. All on
my list are 16mic, except the MX3282, which is 24mic.

The list I compared:
Yamaha MG24/14FX 899.99
Mackie CFX-20 779.99
Mackie CR1604 VLZ-PRO 999.99
Allen&Heath MixWiz 16:2DX 999.99
Soundcraft/Spirit FX16 829.95 (incl free M20 condenser mic)
Behringer MX3282A 699.99
Behringer MX2442A 549.99
Behringer MX3242X 599.99

The A-H 16:2 has an interesting setup of built-in effects, where it's
editable on a pc, has a midi-in, as well as a foot-sw input that can handle
up to three functions. Seems nice for a mix-from-the-stage musician, which
I am for now. But never mind that, if you have someone operating it
off-stage, and the budget for a TC. Also, with 2 subgroups (L/R), plus a
separate A-B master volume control, you might be able to do what you want
with the submixes. Plus, it's rack-mountable.

When you're using another pair of speakers further back in the room, I
believe the recommended method is to have them half-way into the room,
facing the same direction as the mains (not toward each other), and the
second pair should be delayed slightly. The amount of delay is based on
distance from the mains. This is so that when people can hear both sets of
speakers, they'll be "time-aligned" - it won't sound like an echo (from the
further pair).

-Rigel

Shawn

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Feb 20, 2004, 6:30:49 PM2/20/04
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"Rigel Russell" <rigel...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Thanks Rigel.

I am real curious about the Yamaha's. Has anyone here purchased them and/or
heard them?
A buddy of mine "dissed" them because they were made in China. What isn't
made in China these days?
I am leaning A+H 16:2 at this point....

Shawn


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