Peavey HDH System
Brian
processor. They are HDH 3 Bottoms and HDH 4 Mid/High. I'd like some opinions
from the group as to the sound and performance of this type system.
Thanks
Brian
Shaun
They ARE Peavey's mind you...
Depending on what the asking price is, I think the bang-for-the-buck factor
would make them a winner. I have never liked the manifold horn setup, which
houses (4) 22A drivers on a manifold-style long-throw horn. This is very
powerful high end we're talking about! The processor (which I own) is
required, because it provides system protection, hi/mid/low frequency loudness
compensation and compression, based on amplifier voltage feedback level (you
MUST tri-amp, there are no crossovers!), and high freq. eq to smooth out the
manifold horn. I would love to get my hands on that system, though, they are a
thing of beauty. I use (6) SP-4ti's on (4) EAW KF940 subs, with a pair of DSC
Series 23 processors, and the system is bulletproof. I am looking at the BSS
366 OmniDrive Compact to see if it will outperform the DSC's+BBE 862, but I am
skeptical. BTW, the BBE is for driver time-alignment only.
I own a pair of HDH-2's, which are the 15" + (4) 22A combos, and removed 6 of
the 8 drivers to build 6 wedge cabs, and put a steel plug in the empty threaded
holes. I hated the "honky" sound of the horns, but did not know they needed
the HDH processor to EQ them back to normal. 360w high end would come in handy
for delay towers, for those over-capacity outdoor crowds.
I have no experience with the midrange component of the HDH system, but I
believe that the horn-loaded 12" which is crossed from 300 Hz to 1.2 kHz would
serve the midrange duties well. The nice thing about the system is that you
can use one amplifier per high-pack cabinet. Use a 700-watt/ch amp, with 1 ch.
for highs, and 1 ch. for mids. The lows (2x8 ohm) should be powered with at
least a 1,400-watt/ch amp, 1 ch. per sub cabinet.
How many cabinets are for sale, and what is the price?
--
Shaun Wexler,
Hellsgate Sound
Brian
1 Pair of tops
I have tried the system with a CS1200 on top and mids, and a CS1200X on the
bottom. Apparantly I had the bottoms underpowered, although the system did
sound pretty good.
Everything was in excellent working order.
The price was a little high about $1800.00
Later
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Shaun
> 1 Pair of Subs, 2x18
> 1 Pair of tops
> I have tried the system with a CS1200 on top and mids, and a CS1200X on the
> bottom. Apparantly I had the bottoms underpowered, although the system did
> sound pretty good.
> Everything was in excellent working order.
> The price was a little high about $1800.00
> Later
The price is right, if it includes the HDH controller. You need two CS1200's
and two CS1200X's to power the speakers properly. Use the CS1200's for high
and mid, and the CS1200X bridged into 4 ohms for the sub. Find another HDH
processor (I have one) and you'll be in stereo, and loving it. That's a great
(for Peavey) system. Tell your friend I'll buy it for $1,800, if they're not
beat up or anything.
Douglas R. Allen
I mixed a large Baseball field with 4 bottoms and 3 tops a side about 3 years
ago.
4 bands and many pats on the back latter I was totally impressed with the sound
of them.
Bottoms were Crest CA 12s with CA 9s for mids and Ca 6s for the top.
I liked the throw and very solid sound.No complaints even with about 2,000
people there.
All bands were happy
Doug
Mike Borkhuis
> I liked the throw and very solid sound.No complaints even with about 2,000
> people there.
Gott'a love a happy audience..... =)
> All bands were happy
I've had the happy bands too. And I've always wondered.... How is it
that when a band is on stage... Playing thru monitors... That they can
hear (and judge) how good the FOH sound is.... Hmmmmmm....
Mike Borkhuis
Worship Technology
Douglas R. Allen
I have found that a lot of bands have "Spy's"friends and family who check out
the bands and report back to them . Bands also check out the bands who play
before them and have a good reference to the mix persons sound.
If you can please the SPY's during sound check sometimes that is half the
battle. :-)
D. Show
I realize now that I absolutely need to tri-amp to get the 125hz crossover
to work for my bass bins. What I have for speakers are a pair of Cerwin Vega
18' (V-35 with horn removed) for low end, a non-name cab with a 12' and a
horn for mids, and will be using the horns from the V-35 on top. Presently
using a PV 2K amp one channel for the 2 CV speakers and the other for the
mids. I will probably use a CS-400 to run the horns, one channel per side
(the horns drivers are presently PV 22XL). I am planning on building or
buying boxes with 2 12' speakers per cab, thinking about Celestion or EV
speakers. We play small halls and Churches. My question is whether this
speaker compliment (both what we have and what I am thinking of getting) is
appropriate for this crossover and whether the compression feature is
something that I can use with speakers other than the PV units it was
designed for. Is there a limit on the wattage this unit is designed for and
if so what is it. Our system is in a growth phase so any advice will be
appreciated if more amplification is needed or if I need to lose this unit
and get a different crossover or whatever. TIA D. Show
Shaun
> I have found that a lot of bands have "Spy's"friends and family who check out
> the bands and report back to them . Bands also check out the bands who play
> before them and have a good reference to the mix persons sound.
> If you can please the SPY's during sound check sometimes that is half the
> battle. :-)
Comments from friends and family of the bands throws more weight than we
realize. It tends to influence the artist's own perception of the gig. I've
found that a little lower SPL's right off will produce a LOT better quality, in
most cases. I'll slowly crank it up to 112 or so after my sound is perfect,
usually during the second song of the opening act.
Shaun
Yes, lose the unit. What you need to make the system sound better is a
variable (sweepable) crossover, a 3-way or 4-way mono, or stereo if you can
afford it. The Peavey Dynamic System Controller Series HDH is designed for a
specific type of driver complement. The HDH manifold horn has FOUR 22A drivers
in it, and the controller applies a special EQ curve to the highpass, and also
expects your high end to be able to handle 360 watts RMS. i.e. POOF! The
non-name 12" probably can't take the abuse either. A VX4 crossover would be an
exconomical solution for you.
If you do want to sell the HDH processor, I will buy it. I have HDH cab's.
E. Hill
Playing thru monitors... That they can hear (and judge) how good the FOH
sound is.... Hmmmmmm.... <<
Do you know how long it took me to convince the people on-stage (at church)
that what they hear is not what the congregation hears? ;-) Actually, I
don't think I've convinced all of them yet.
- Eric
D. Show
equipment by PV. What difference is there between the two?
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Shaun
> Correction: my unit is the system 23 controller from the same series of
> equipment by PV. What difference is there between the two?
The DSC Series 23 is specifically designed for SP-4's. It crosses subs at 125
Hz (2x15 lo-mids) in 3-way mode, and the 1.2 kHz high crossover is designed for
one 22A/t driver.
The DSC Series HDH is designed for the HDH series. It crosses subs at 300 Hz
(1x12 mid) in 3-way mode, and the 1.2 kHz high crossover is designed for four
22A drivers on a manifold long-throw horn, and has supplemental EQ and much
higher compression threshold, 360 w RMS. @ 8 ohms vs 80w RMS @ 8 ohms.
Since these processors measure a voltage feedback from the power amps, you can
add more speakers in parallel (thus decreasing load impedance and subsequently
increasing current output of the amps) without affecting your system. The
trick comes when a series is introduced, as you lose some of the performance
benefis of extra drivers due to premature compression by the DSC.
Needless to say, these are both excellent units.
Mike Borkhuis
church)
> that what they hear is not what the congregation hears? ;-) Actually, I
> don't think I've convinced all of them yet.
I know the feeling... I'm still fighting that battle with a couple of
the worship teams I do sound for. Happened last Sunday as a matter of
fact.... Worship leader on the alter during the soundcheck... "Can you
adjust..... in the main mix?" I was almost ready to tell him that I trust
him to sing and play correctly, so why can't he trust me to mix correctly???
Mike Borkhuis
Worship Technology