Shure 55SH - Any good for live use?
molan
Series II is perfect for performers who want the look and feel
of the '50s and '60s. Contemporary cartridge for excellent vocal
quality."
Or so Shure claim - has anyone actually tried using one of these
live? We currently use the old workhorse SM58 & 57 combination.
I happen to love the look of these mics but was worried that
they might sound dodgy and/or have greater feedback problems
than our SM58's?
Also what about compatability with the SM58?
molan
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Key Audio (Kenneth Kareta)
(a little more of a 500 bump) but if the singer has a habit of cupping the mic?
YEAOCH!!!
It's tough to get mic technique by using a "golf club"!
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Key Audio Services
Ralph Staub
grill of an Edsel.
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Ralph Staub
Entertainment Sound Production
Silver Spring MD
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molan
only live in the UK but have a perverse affection for Edsel's.
Never owned one though, closest I got was a 58 Olds - had even
more chrome than mosts Edsels but not entirely enclosed in it
like a 55SH!
Ralph Staub
have steel!
molan
Hey let's go off topic here -I love old Chrome machines. Here's
a link to 58 Olds picture. Not as pretty as my fire engine red
model but still heavily chromed.
www.bayberryclassics.com/pages/58Olds.htm
Mike Borkhuis
> Series II is perfect for performers who want the look and feel
> of the '50s and '60s. Contemporary cartridge for excellent vocal
> quality."
>
> live? We currently use the old workhorse SM58 & 57 combination.
> I happen to love the look of these mics but was worried that
> they might sound dodgy and/or have greater feedback problems
> than our SM58's?
At one of the local 4th of July celebrations, they had a music
festival... One of the groups (a 50's girl band) brought in three for the
vocals. I was hanging around the FOH talking to the mixer. He did nothing
but complain about the the whole set.
Mike Borkhuis
Worship Technology
George Gleason
Mike Borkhuis <bork...@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
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> > "A classic microphone with a nostalgic appearance, the 55SH
> > Series II is perfect for performers who want the look and feel
> > of the '50s and '60s. Contemporary cartridge for excellent vocal
> > quality."
> >
> > Or so Shure claim - has anyone actually tried using one of these
> > live? We currently use the old workhorse SM58 & 57 combination.
> > I happen to love the look of these mics but was worried that
> > they might sound dodgy and/or have greater feedback problems
> > than our SM58's?
Pre switch model
the thing looked great but for live work it was a struggle
would not recommend unless you need its appearance for some reason .
Thank You
George Gleason
bm...@yahoo.com
michael gaster
I have saw in the show "Always...Patsy Cline" they used one of these as a
dummy mic and used a Senn. MKE-2 and it seemed to work real well!
michael
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"Ralph Staub" <mra...@ccconline.net> wrote in message news:38E1843F...@ccconline.net...
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe 55SH IS a 58 capsule behind the
> grill of an Edsel.
Key Audio (Kenneth Kareta)
but Next time You watch "The Empire Strikes Back".
Look closely, The 55H was used as the mouth of the Medical robot
I just noticed it recently, but now I can't quit noticing it.
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Ken Kareta, Owns,.
Key Audio Services
Ralph Staub wrote:
> Yes, but is it the grill of an Edsel?
George Gleason
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>
> I have saw in the show "Always...Patsy Cline" they used one of these as a
> dummy mic and used a Senn. MKE-2 and it seemed to work real well!
>
> michael
where they often use this 55sh
Thanks
George Gleason
bm...@yahoo.com
Ralph Staub
Ralph Staub
inherited from my grandma and was her brand new car when my mom brought
me home from the hospital, which makes it the first car I ever rode in.
(Yes, I'm old, please don't do the math) It had the 389 with triple
deuces and you could watch the gas gauge drop when you stepped on it.
That car would take up 4 parking spaces in today's parking lots. Thanks
for the nostalgia trip.
Sorry guys, back to audio!!!
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molan
Hey Mike - Can't you get arrested for that?
Suppose it was safer than hanging around the 50's girlie group!!
michael gaster
I forgot to mention the MKE was in her hair in the standard theatre center
forehead position
Michael
michael gaster
Whoa! bad typing! that should of been
I saw in the show "Always...Patsy Cline" they used one of these mics as a
dummy mic, and as the live mic they used a senn MKE-2, it seemed to work
real well.
pardon my english I'm not a great typist.
ChuxGarage
Actually, shure claims that it is an SM-48, which isn't the same theing, but
seems to work OK.
You can get the 55SH to sound fine. Gain before feedback isn't as good as some
mics, but still pretty workable. Bottom line is people who want the look of
the mic are willing to do what it takes to make it work for them.
Chuck Conrad
Crossroads Audio, Inc
SPARKY
>
> Whoa! bad typing! that should of been
>
> I saw in the show "Always...Patsy Cline" they used one of these mics as a
> dummy mic, and as the live mic they used a senn MKE-2, it seemed to work
> real well.
>
> pardon my english I'm not a great typist.
OOOHH, good catch, Mike! I was going to call you on it, but you've had so
much flak from this 'Good Recording Mic?' thread (crapshoot) that I decided
to leave you alone. This time...
Louder! What? LOUDER! WHAT?
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SPARKY
Plus3dB Productions
"Oh where, oh where has my Babelfish gone?"
michael gaster
hey I appreciate it, man!
that was a fun little battle f%&@'n AV and home recording guy's try'n to
flame a pro-guy
I understand at times I tend to be a little to "sales man" like but that was
not the case there; this one guy who first jumped on it ended up coming back
and apologizing and said
..."For the most part, Audix is _very_ workable in the dynamic department.
Kudos for sticking to your guns."
but anyway I'll see you around!
michael
Fletcher
>
> "A classic microphone with a nostalgic appearance, the 55SH
> Series II is perfect for performers who want the look and feel
> of the '50s and '60s. Contemporary cartridge for excellent vocal
> quality."
>
> Or so Shure claim - has anyone actually tried using one of these
> live? We currently use the old workhorse SM58 & 57 combination.
> I happen to love the look of these mics but was worried that
> they might sound dodgy and/or have greater feedback problems
> than our SM58's?
>
>
> molan
There is a local band in Boston called 'El Camino'. Their singer uses a
Shure 55 as his regular mic. So far, I've never encountered/noticed any
feedback problems. It does sound a tad 'darker' than alot of other
mics, the Shure 58 included...that would probably be due to the grill
architecture.
It looks great and adds a nice bit of detail to the look of the show
[their schtick is based around 'Hot Rod's & Pin Up Girls'...the couple
of times I've mixed them live, I haven't had any problems with it [even
with doing monitors from the FOH position]...the other times I've seen
them when someone else was mixing...it sounded great.
Good luck.
--
Fletcher
Mercenary Audio
TEL: 508-543-0069
FAX: 508-543-9670
http://www.mercenary.com
Jeff Sobel
as we refer to them. I think they sound fine for live work, pretty
comparable to a SM58 without quite as much presence peak. They do look cool
for bands whose personality matches the mic's style.
The first band to buy theirs got it about a year ago. I did find it a bit
more feedback prone than the 58s. We've got a small, confined stage that is
never completely ring free. The 55SH seemed to tickle the fancy of the 1k
and 6k rings I battle with nightly. It was, however, workable and didn't
cause much problem after I got used to its sound and response.
The 2nd band just got theirs a few months ago. They're emocore, very cool
sound. And their singer handholds the mic and runs all over the stage,
usually facing 90deg from the monitors, frequently facing the drummer (thus
pointing the mic back at the monitors when his head isn't blocking it).
This can be a bit frustrating, but again can be dealt with. It's a bonus
that the 55SH has an on/off switch, and I've got the singer pretty
consistent about switching the mic off during dead air between songs while
he's rambling around the stage dangling the mic by its cable.
I've been told by a couple of different sources, though never officially
verified, that the 55 is just a SM58 capsule in a retro style case. This
seems quite possible, but as i said I haven't verified the truth in it. The
slight difference in pickup pattern and freq response could certainly be
attributed to the case architecture alone.
So as far as compatibilty between the 55SH and SM58, they seem to get along
great. Though they do appear to have similar tastes in women which has led
to a number of tense situations and crushed egos...
JDS
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