Can anyone recommend an overhead mic for drums?
Robert
and crash cymbals loud enough. Got two mics on the kit. SM57 pointed at
Snare/Hi Hat and a Sennheiser E602 on kick.
This works good for most venues but in larger clubs the cymbals get a bit
lost. I thought about putting a condenser on an overhead pointing down
towards the cymbals. Any recommendations? I'm a weekend warrior so not too
expensive. Anybody use Behringer mics for this? I could spend a bit more
though if needed.
Thanks,
Robert
mcsteve
> I thought about putting a condenser on an overhead pointing down
> towards the cymbals. Any recommendations? I'm a weekend warrior so not too
> expensive. Anybody use Behringer mics for this? I could spend a bit more
> though if needed.
>
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Arny Krueger
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> On several gigs in the last two weeks I've had difficulty getting the ride
> and crash cymbals loud enough. Got two mics on the kit. SM57 pointed at
> Snare/Hi Hat and a Sennheiser E602 on kick.
>
> This works good for most venues but in larger clubs the cymbals get a bit
> lost. I thought about putting a condenser on an overhead pointing down
> towards the cymbals. Any recommendations?
Last time I did it, I used a pair of Rode NT1a mics. I was pleased with the
results, but I might be easy to please. ;-)
George Gleason
the B5 is a good mic for this
it even has a built in pad and low cut
george
Robert
> the B5 is a good mic for this
> it even has a built in pad and low cut
> george
That's the one I was looking at. 52 UK pounds. I'm going to order one.
Thanks,
Robert
Steve White
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> the B5 is a good mic for this
> it even has a built in pad and low cut
> george
Hi George,
Have you used the B5? For the sake of clarity - I'm not questioning your
judgement - just trying to clarify. Do we assume you've used one and got
good results?
Ta,
Steve W
Arny Krueger
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Good question because George in quick sucession recommended a console here
that happened to have TRS jacks for aux sends. A little while later he
condemned all consoles that have TRS jacks for aux sends. It turned out that
he had only seen the console he recommended at a trade show, apparently
never looked at the back.
Bob Cap
diaphram. Seems like the SM57 of condensors. I have used it for overheads
and it has worked very well.
So far I have used it for:
Overheads
High Hat
Toms
Guitar
Bass
Accordion
Banjo (I don't know why)
Acoustic guitar
Violin
Viola
Cello
Sax (Tenor and Alto)
Trombone
Piano
And it has worked very well.
Haven't had a chance to see how it works on vocals.
Give it a try. For under a hundred bucks you can't go wrong.
Bob Cap
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Phildo
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> Good question because George in quick sucession recommended a console here
> that happened to have TRS jacks for aux sends. A little while later he
> condemned all consoles that have TRS jacks for aux sends. It turned out
> that he had only seen the console he recommended at a trade show,
> apparently never looked at the back.
Do you really want to start yet another flamewar and be humiliated in front
of the entire group all over again Arny?
All you did with this post was show everyone what a small-minded, petty
little individual you are but then we all knew that already.
Phildo
George Gleason
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I find them fine for most live sound small diaphram condensor duties
I like them better than the 012's
George
Ron(UK)
I just got a matched pair of C2`s to evaluate, I havent tried to use
them on a gig, but I initially did a quick workshop comparison against
my usual Rode NT3 and Beyer MCE93 etc.
The results were rather good, certainly quieter than a C1000S, not a
patch on the Rode tho, but at Ł40 for two mikes, clips, a stereo bar and
windshields quite a bargain.
Ron(UK)
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Ty Ford
(in article <fKnnf.642226$xm3.385833@attbi_s21>):
I wonder how it's little buddy, the SD that is only available in a 2020 kit
would do. What's the price for both, about $150?
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Ty,
I have not tried that one. Looks good on paper. At the price point I'm sure
you can find a use for it.
Bob Cap
kb
i have used them 3-4 years as housesmurfe in the venue www.fbf.dk
reg. kb
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Phildo
Here's a hint for you when you are playing smaller venues - stick an
overhead on the kit but don't route that channel into the mix. Instead just
send it to a reverb unit and bring the purely wet signal back into the mix.
Gives a nice polished sheen to the sound where the sound of the overhead on
its own would have been overkill. Works especially well with more acoustic
sounding bands, especially in quite dead rooms.
Phildo
Phildo
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> RØDE nt5 is a very usefull set on any drumkit with small or full pa.
> i have used them 3-4 years as housesmurfe in the venue www.fbf.dk
And what does Papa Smurf think about your moonlighting ?
I've heard of house engineer, house lighting guy, house security and even
house drug dealer but never house Smurf !!! ;-)
Phildo
Stu P
>>George Gleason wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>the B5 is a good mic for this
>>>
>>>
>I got 2 of them and use them for overheads all the time. Great mics.
>
>Here's a hint for you when you are playing smaller venues - stick an
>overhead on the kit but don't route that channel into the mix. Instead just
>send it to a reverb unit and bring the purely wet signal back into the mix.
>Gives a nice polished sheen to the sound where the sound of the overhead on
>its own would have been overkill. Works especially well with more acoustic
>sounding bands, especially in quite dead rooms.
>
>Phildo
>
>
I'll second that (tried it after you mentioned it here a while ago)
and add that even in live rooms with loud bands, it can add colour to
song intros and quieter passages (eg just hats and guitar) and backing
off the verb send once the full band kicks in to keep it clean. Have
you (or anyone else for that matter) tried the new the new Behringer
matched condensors (C-2s I think)? Are a pair of B-5s worth extra
bucks? I'll be using them for overheads.
Cheers,
Stu.
Ron(UK)
Have
> you (or anyone else for that matter) tried the new the new Behringer
> matched condensors (C-2s I think)? Are a pair of B-5s worth extra
> bucks? I'll be using them for overheads.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stu.
I`ve got a pair. I havent used them in anger yet, but I tested them out
on acoustic guitar with just with a desk and cans. Comparing them with a
rode NT3 a Beyer MCE85 and a C1000S, they are noisier than the NT3 and
less smooth sounding, very similar to the beyer and quieter and better
sounding than the AKG. These were rough tests mind, YMMV
For £40 a pair including clips, windshields and a stereo bar, they have
to be good value.
Ron
0jun...@bellsouth.net
On 2005-12-29 Ph...@phildo.net said:
>Here's a hint for you when you are playing smaller venues - stick an
>overhead on the kit but don't route that channel into the mix.
>Instead just send it to a reverb unit and bring the purely wet
>signal back into the mix. Gives a nice polished sheen to the sound
>where the sound of the overhead on its own would have been overkill.
>Works especially well with more acoustic sounding bands, especially
>in quite dead rooms.
that in a small dead room, little bar maybe held 50-100
bodies if you packed 'em like sardines. MOre restaurant
than entertainment venue.
Mr. DRums was surprised when I stuck an oh on him (Shure
sm-81 because that's what I had) because I"m usually the "we
don't need to mic the kit" guy. HE commented on it and I
told him what I was doing.
One of his drummer buddies was in the audience that night
and commented to him about how good his drums sounded. Verb
unit wasn't a real high class piece of kit either but it
just added that little something extra to help glue the mix
together.
IIRC the verb was one of those Alesis units, their stock
drum room setting iirc as well but I could be mistaken.
SPent lal night with my lady at the emergency room again
last night.
Richard WEbb,
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