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KIP
Fender 1270p system. Any other suggestions?
Application: Church, 200 capacity, mainly vocals, but may add instruments to
them as well.
Thanks...
Kurt Albershardt
Monitors for the performers, or mains (monitors for the audience?)
KIP
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Tom Hole
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Yorkville NX550P's.
Kurt Albershardt
If you don't need huge low end, you might want to listen to the Mackie SRM-350. Nice low profile and very smooth midrange. 90x80 horn so they work OK on their side.
Carlos Alden
>
>
> If you don't need huge low end, you might want to listen to the Mackie
> SRM-350. Nice low profile and very smooth midrange. 90x80 horn so they work
> OK on their side.
>
I can second this recommendation. We use 'em for our Celtic trio: cittern
or banjo, whistle or flute or uilleann pipes, bodhran or cajone, and three
vocals. They are great. Plenty of bass, clear highs, and midrange on the
vocals is nice.
We got stuck at an outdoor gig a while back - the sound guy never showed up,
so flute player called his wife who ran down with his tiny Behringer mixer,
his Behringer large diaphragm mic, and the SRM 350s. 5 minutes, instant
sound system, good enough for 300+ people to hear us in an outside
environment. Not Bad!
To my ears they don't sound as boomy as our JBL Eon 15 mains (which were
terrible for monitors but okay for mains) or as brittle and harsh (too much
spanky detail ) of the Mackie 450s that I have heard.
Carlos
King
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Tom Hole
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> What's the best price on a pair of NX 550p's?
>
>
http://www.audioeast.com/yorkvillenx.htm
$1298, shipped for a pair.
Tom
hank alrich
> Yorkville NX550P's
Those look interesting. You using them? In what context, Tom?
Anybody else familiar with these?
--
ha
Tom Hole
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Not using them yet. They are well regarded on the Harmony Central Live
Sound forum. I have a pair on my to buy list for monitor duty. My
Yorkville EF500P's are tough to beat, so I am going by that for my
reference.
There is a 15+1.5" NX750P coming out as well, but I don't need the extra
power for monitors.
TOm
Kurt Albershardt
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>> Tom Hole wrote:
>>
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>>> Yorkville NX550P's
>>
>> Those look interesting. You using them? In what context, Tom?
>>
>> Anybody else familiar with these?
>
>
> Sound forum. I have a pair on my to buy list for monitor duty. My
> Yorkville EF500P's are tough to beat, so I am going by that for my
> reference.
>
> There is a 15+1.5" NX750P coming out as well, but I don't need the extra
> power for monitors.
I'm also a bit leery of the lower crossover point on those. The 550's have a 2300 Hz crossover which (when combined with a 10-12" cone) often produces a less brittle sound to my ears.
KIP
I'm looking to spend no more than 400 per powered monitor. How does the
Peavey 112pm fair against the Yamaha MSR100?
Thanks all...
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KIP
I'm looking to spend no more than 400 per powered monitor. How does the
Peavey 112pm fair against the Yamaha MSR100?
Thanks all...
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mark devoll
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hank alrich
> what about mackie. they work well for monitors
I used a pair of SRM350's last night and I suggest one consider that
their active bass management circuitry, which presently cannot be
defeated by the user, be examined in the context of intended use before
purchasing. The midrange on these is really very nice, but when levels
are low and the system turns up the bottom, like a loudness control on a
home palyback system, only to see plenty of low end suddenly arrive from
the source, the result is way too much bottom.
When this kind of built-in stuff cannot be disabled the potential
applications for a device become restricted. In this case I have ruled
out the SRM350 in its present iteration as a stage monitor for acoustic
music.
--
ha
Dan Fraser
Specially on the female voice.
Dan
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mark devoll
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Phildo
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> mackie works well
>
Jeez, top posting _and_ gives bad advice.
Get a clue Mark.
Phildo
George Gleason
for most application short of full on stadium power rock the mackie
450's will provide adequately as a monitor
though no excuse for top posting
George
Tim S Kemp
> The bottom line is getting the most for my money.
> I'm looking to spend no more than 400 per powered monitor. How does
> the Peavey 112pm fair against the Yamaha MSR100?
dB Opera 412 - loads of power, smooth sound. Don't go as low as JBL but
sweeter and louder.
--
"Get a paper bag"
Phildo
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> for most application short of full on stadium power rock the mackie 450's
> will provide adequately as a monitor
That wasn't what he said though. He just said "mackie works well" and gave
no indication as to which model or whether he was even referring to the
series you mention.
> though no excuse for top posting
Agreed. Been way too much on here recently.
Phildo
King
> Fender 1270p system. Any other suggestions?
>
Well...I finally did it!
I picked up a pair of Yorkville nx550p speakers today (I've been holding off
for 3 months).
Got home and plugged them in and they sound great!
Might be a little more than what you need. They are 550watts / 124 db SPL.
I'm doing solo acoustic stuff for now but I decided to go with these which
gives me more to grow into. I'll probably add other musicians later. These
have a great 2 year no questions ask warrenty. They'll replace it if
something goes wrong (ie. God forbid you spill your favoriye beverage on
it).
The Mackie SRM450's are suppose to be comparable to these but MOST people
that A/B these speakers say that the yorkvilles have a little more
full.......or bass sound. The EV (sx100?) speakers (someone help me...I
forgot the model) are probably the top of the line but they are very
expensive.......$1000/speaker ?????
The JBL Eon G2's a pretty good.........MOST say the Mackies sound better. I
looked and wanted a set of the Samson 500a's but they are pretty
heavy....around 62lbs. They sound good and are pretty cheap somewhere around
$400 each.
I guess you know most of all these molded plastic speakers BASICALLY all
have the same parts in them....but some sound better due to the way the
enclosure or box is formed! Someone else here that has a little more
experience can confirm or deny that.
King
Hubert Barth
>I guess you know most of all these molded plastic speakers BASICALLY all
>have the same parts in them....but some sound better due to the way the
>enclosure or box is formed! Someone else here that has a little more
>experience can confirm or deny that.
Well, all cars have a motor and wheels. So you could say the same
about cars, and it would be as right or false as your statement above.
regards
--
Hubert Barth
Cologne/Germany
http://www.bigbands.de
King
molded cabinet speakers have the EXACT same components....from the same
manufacturer in them ie. magnet, horn, speaker, etc. One of the reasons (if
not the main reason) they sound differnt is the dimensions and engineering
of the cabinet.
King
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Hubert Barth
>Well.....I'm not claiming to know it all here but I've been told most of the
>molded cabinet speakers have the EXACT same components....from the same
>manufacturer in them ie. magnet, horn, speaker, etc. One of the reasons (if
>not the main reason) they sound differnt is the dimensions and engineering
>of the cabinet.
That´s definitely wrong. The person who told you that was seriously
bullshitting you.
I have a number of dB Operas, and even within their line they have
different drivers. The cheaper and lower wattage models have generic
speakers while the top line has 18sound and B&C components.
The power modules also differ between manufacturers, they all would
have the same power figures otherwise.
Pooh Bear
King wrote:
> Well.....I'm not claiming to know it all here but I've been told most of the
> molded cabinet speakers have the EXACT same components....from the same
> manufacturer in them ie. magnet, horn, speaker, etc. One of the reasons (if
> not the main reason) they sound differnt is the dimensions and engineering
> of the cabinet.
The cabinet will indeed make a difference.
But there is no way the components are the same - just open a few up and look !
Whoever told you that is a *highly* unreliable source of info.
Graham
King
Hubert...this is not a slam but I'm comparing apple to apples....NOT top of
the line to their cheap lines. I know companies make differnt lines of the
same product from the cost efficient (cheap) to the top of the line - no
expenses barred.
What I'm saying is Mackie SRM 450's and the db Opera (I forget the model #)
have most of the same components in them. I'm not saying EVERY component is
the same, but most are pretty much the same........Mackie SRM 450's, Samson
db500's, dB Opera ? (which is suppose to be a great speaker), JBL Eon's,
Yorkville nx550p's.....
I think the point I was really trying to get across, like Pooh Bear said was
"the construction/engineering of the cabinet makes a pretty big impact on
the way the speaker sounds.
Yea, I would agree with you...not EVERY component in these speakers are the
same.
King
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Hubert Barth
>What I'm saying is Mackie SRM 450's and the db Opera (I forget the model #)
>have most of the same components in them.
Opera 412 MkII or its successor 412 Lyric? (they sound different).
Well, the Mackie is a RCF construction. Mackie bought RCF from AEB of
Italy which happens to own dB also.
It appears to be quite natural to find similarities if you know that
background. (BTW RCF is back to AEB in the meantime.)
> I'm not saying EVERY component is
>the same, but most are pretty much the same........Mackie SRM 450's, Samson
>db500's, dB Opera ? (which is suppose to be a great speaker), JBL Eon's,
>Yorkville nx550p's.....
AFAIK at least the EONs use totally generic drivers, as well as the
Behringer B300, don愒 know enough about the Yorkvilles.
>I think the point I was really trying to get across, like Pooh Bear said was
>"the construction/engineering of the cabinet makes a pretty big impact on
>the way the speaker sounds.
I don愒 argue that the cabinet design plays a distinct role, but I悲
say it愀 just one factor among others. Drivers, crossover design and
amping are just as important.
>Yea, I would agree with you...not EVERY component in these speakers are the
>same.
If you take a closer look at the components you will find a multitude
of variations. I惴 in line with Graham at this point.
regards
--
Hubert
Tim S Kemp
> I think we're getting into symantics now......
semantics...
> What I'm saying is Mackie SRM 450's and the db Opera (I forget the
> model #) have most of the same components in them. I'm not saying
> EVERY component is the same, but most are pretty much the
> same........Mackie SRM 450's, Samson db500's, dB Opera ? (which is
> suppose to be a great speaker), JBL Eon's, Yorkville nx550p's.....
As the components involved are basically ampifier modules and loudspeaker
drivers, you may find a lot of the amp modules are the same on the cheaper
ones as it's cheaper to buy a mass produced unit from the far east than to
build them in the EU or the US. Mackie probably used RCF drivers, JBL in the
Eons use a JBL driver. dB in the Opera use B&C in the top end models. They
also will add custom EQ and crossover points (hence the boom-tizz sound of
the Mackie that makes them sell well in guitar shops).
UkuleleRon
>Eons use a JBL driver.
Can it really be said that the EON bass speaker is a driver? or integrated
into the cabinet? or is the cabinet really a chassis?
Ron(UK)
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