FBT vs JBL vs Mackie Active Speakers
Shawn
speakers (10" /+ horn) and a subwoofer. They kind of seemed expensive to me
and I haven't heard much of them. Can someone be kind enough to make a
comparison to JBL Eon (G2) and Mackie SRM450's? Have you used the FBT and
how does it compare to our own USA brands, JBL and Mackie. (That said, I
heard that Mackie manufacturers some of these 450's in Italy. )
Thank You
Shawn
ps It's for a permanent install and will be using for pre-recorded and live
worship, (i.e. small bands) and DVD's/movies, etc. the room would fit approx
two to three hundred middle schoolers. (Yikes!)
George Gleason
"Shawn" <spf...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:sQPRb.135859$nt4.594921@attbi_s51...
> I have been contacted by a church group that has been quoted FBT active
> speakers (10" /+ horn) and a subwoofer. They kind of seemed expensive to
me
> and I haven't heard much of them. Can someone be kind enough to make a
> comparison to JBL Eon (G2) and Mackie SRM450's? Have you used the FBT and
> how does it compare to our own USA brands, JBL and Mackie. (That said, I
> heard that Mackie manufacturers some of these 450's in Italy. )
>
> Thank You
>
> Shawn
>
with that in mind
If this is the USA I would say stay with JBL or Mackie on service reasons
alone
FBT may be a quality product but it is just not distributed well enough
also look at the new mackie 350 powered 10 inch speaker
George
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.572 / Virus Database: 362 - Release Date: 1/27/2004
JuanT2
>heard that Mackie manufacturers some of these 450's in Italy. )
>
Mackie bought RCF a few years ago and RCF manufactured the ART series of
self-powered loudpeakers in Italy. That series is currently being sold in the
U.S. branded Mackie Industrial or now possibly just Mackie. I like the ART-300
model and own 8 units. I have heard the FBT speakers and thought they were
fairly nice. I believe the FBT factory is very close to the RCF/Mackie factory
in Italy.
Juan
ZoLo
"JuanT2" <jua...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040128105606...@mb-m25.aol.com...
> Mackie bought RCF a few years ago <snip>
Mackie just sold RCF...
http://www.loud-technologies.com/news/2003/12172003_rcfbye.html
Ron
wcs...@yahoo.com
Yes, I've used a pair of FBT 15" powered for 2 years.
They sound good, have ample power, and have been trouble
free. I don't think it's possible to make either the
Eons or the Mackies sound good. I know three fellows who
use powered Mackie 450's, & they always sound harsh to me.
If I were choosing permanent speakers for a church, I think
I'd put a little thought into their appearance. Something
a bit cleaner looking might be more appropriate to the
setting.
Gian
I am currently in the process of getting some speakers myself for my duo and
I currently play instruments and mix at our church.
EONs are good for what they are and their price range, but are more a
portable solution. Mackies probably sound better. But I would agree with the
10" and sub. Unless your requirement is a portable solution I would go power
amp(s) and unpowered speakers. But if you are looking to put it up and down
then I would suggest having a look at Electrovoice series...say EV SXA360,
or the FBT MaxX series.
The above mentioned EVs and the FBTs do sound more pleasing and are not too
much more expensive.
At this stage after auditioning quite a few (active) speaker I will probably
personally go with the SXA360 or the FBT MaxX 4a.
Good luck.
KINGCIGAR
That being said, I wish I had found and listened to EV SX100A's and the SX-180
sub before I bought the JBL stuff.
The JBL stuff sounds good and is very rugged and always works, to this point.
The main reason that I bought JBL EON is simply there are so many of them out
there owned by many different people and companies.
So when I need extra cabs to do bigger jobs it's easy to network with other JBL
owners to get the use of their cabinets and vice versa.
This "sharing" system is modeled after TURBOSOUND's arrangement for their high
level gear, but on a smaller and more personal scale.
If I knew I'd never need more than say two per side...I'd be EV's....but more
than that JBL EON makes more sense.
As an aside, the EON 10/G2 and EON SUB makes a much better sounding package
than the EON 15/G2.
RKeithBrown
Joel Farris
> I don't think it's possible to make either the
> Eons or the Mackies sound good. I know three fellows who
> use powered Mackie 450's, & they always sound harsh to me.
>
> If I were choosing permanent speakers for a church, I think
> I'd put a little thought into their appearance. Something
> a bit cleaner looking might be more appropriate to the
> setting.
The powered mackie SRM-450 can sound really good, but it MUST be paired
with a sub. Also, the SRM box needs a judicious cut at 3K. One narrow notch
filter should do the trick. Buy two, one for each cabinet, and glue them
onto the back of the speakers. You know you're going to need them at every
gig anyway...
--
Joel Farris
twinkledust Designs
http://twinkledust.com
AIM chat: FarrisJoel
Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
A: Why is top posting frowned upon?
mark devoll
"Joel Farris" <this....@valid.address> wrote in message
news:MwUTb.169493$6y6.3...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
Joel Farris
A: Why is top posting frowned upon?
>> mark devoll wrote:
>> what is a srm box?
Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
A: Why is top posting frowned upon?
> "Joel Farris" wrote:
> The powered mackie SRM-450 can sound really good, but it MUST be paired
> with a sub. Also, the SRM box needs a judicious cut at 3K.
Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
A: Why is top posting frowned upon?
The SRM I refer to is the Mackie SRM-450 powered speaker.
--
Joel Farris
Ralph Staub
> Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
> A: Why is top posting frowned upon?
LOL!
Ralph
Tim Padrick
client's 450s with my Audix OM7s on several occasions, and the vocals sound
great, even using an ancient Mackie mixer (and no graphic EQ).
"mark devoll" <ma...@devoll.org> wrote in message
news:NfbUb.20150$8K6...@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com...
Jerry Wood
"Ralph Staub" <ra...@liveaudioresource.com> grabbed his favorite colored
crayon and wrotenews:%ALUb.13773$9a7....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
madness!!!!!!!!
Jerry
Pooh Bear
> To make the 450s sound good, you need a mic that sounds good. I've used a
> client's 450s with my Audix OM7s on several occasions, and the vocals sound
> great, even using an ancient Mackie mixer (and no graphic EQ).
Ah, you've discovered what I found 30 yrs ago.
If all the components in a system are half decent it tends to sound good and
need relatively litle EQ too.
Just one reason I despise Shure SM 57s and 58s.
And I have never bought a graphic ( to fix all the other problems introduced by
shitty gear ) for my own use. I can tell you a funny story about one though.
Graham