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Chuck

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Mar 23, 2005, 7:49:00 PM3/23/05
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Hi,

when Hi MD playing mp3 will be available ?

tx


mmp...@connecttime.net

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Mar 23, 2005, 7:59:29 PM3/23/05
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Slartibartfast

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Mar 24, 2005, 2:07:34 AM3/24/05
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<mmp...@connecttime.net> wrote in message
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>
> Chuck wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> when Hi MD playing mp3 will be available ?
>>
>> tx
>
> A couple weeks. Check out http://www.minidisc.org
>

But don't hold your breath if you live in the UK. I've just had this reply
from Sony UK:

"Each Sony Marketing Company decides in advance which products they will
sell, based on local market trends. However, no detail of the products to
be launched or their specifications are made available (to Sony customer
services or consumers) before their launch.

It is therefore with regret that I am not able to provide any information
on the MZ-RH10 at this time, but should we launch this product in the
future details will be posted on our website, www.sony.co.uk.

I am sorry for any disappointment this may cause."

--
Slartibartfast
To reply by email, remove the FJORDS from my address


Malcolm Stewart

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Mar 24, 2005, 9:30:19 AM3/24/05
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"Slartibartfast" <sla...@celynnen.FJORDSdemon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> But don't hold your breath if you live in the UK. I've just had this
reply
> from Sony UK:
>
> "Each Sony Marketing Company decides in advance which products they will
> sell, based on local market trends. However, no detail of the products to
> be launched or their specifications are made available (to Sony customer
> services or consumers) before their launch.
> It is therefore with regret that I am not able to provide any information
> on the MZ-RH10 at this time, but should we launch this product in the
> future details will be posted on our website, www.sony.co.uk.
> I am sorry for any disappointment this may cause."
> --
> Slartibartfast

Your reply from Sony UK suggests that Sony in Japan know that their
subsidiaries can't keep a commercial secret.

--
M Stewart
Milton Keynes, UK
http://www.megalith.freeserve.co.uk/oddimage.htm

Eryn Vorn

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Mar 26, 2005, 6:19:30 PM3/26/05
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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:49:00 -0500, "Chuck" <nospammm@no__spam.com>
wrote:

>Hi,
>
>when Hi MD playing mp3 will be available ?
>
>tx
>

The models are already available in Japan. The documentation is only
in Japanese. At first the clerk at Yodobashi refused to sell one to me
because it was for Japanese Windows only. I got one anyway, the orange
model RH10. Actually, it works very well with Sonic Stage 3.0 with a
Western Windows, without any issue.

Slartibartfast

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Mar 26, 2005, 6:19:22 PM3/26/05
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"Eryn Vorn" <eryn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Once you've got used to it, could you give us your views on it? I'd
particularly like to know if there are any DRM issues with MP3s.

Eryn Vorn

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Mar 27, 2005, 5:54:36 PM3/27/05
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Well, I plugged the HiMD in a second PC without Sonic Stage installed.
The unit is recognised as a USB mass storage unit. However, the MP3s
are not available on the disk. They are packed in a .HMA file called
"ATDATA01.HMA". Seven other small files are present. This is the same
organization as for the 1st generation of HiMD.

To test further DRM issues, I downloaded SonicStage on my second PC.
As I'm in Japan, Sony Connect Store refused to allow the download of
SS 3.0. I had to walk around to get the URL directly pointing to the
downloader:
http://sonicstage.connect.com/SonicStageInstaller.exe
found there:
http://forums.minidisc.org/index.php?showtopic=8071

After install, I could test the DRM issue.

I can't upload a MP3 from my HiMD on the second PC if it has been
stored in the .HMA file using Sonic Stage.

The simple copy/load/save/transfer of a file (.mp3) on the drive is
fine but the music can't be played by the HiMD, or more precisely
doesn't appear on the list of songs available.

My impressions: the unit is nice, the OLED screen is great. The small
controller (RM MC35ELK) is sufficient, but I can also plug in a 3-line
controller (RM MC40ELK), which is really cool. The unit cover is
gathering fingerprints at high speed. The plastic silver sides are
also quickly dirty.

The USB port is well protected with a slide door. When connecting the
door close the DC IN 3V port and the unit can't stay in the charging
stand.

I'll try recording this afternoon.

Eryn.

Chuck

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Mar 27, 2005, 5:44:28 PM3/27/05
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good news !

tx for the infos


"Eryn Vorn" <eryn...@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de
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Henry Padilla

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Apr 1, 2005, 1:03:38 PM4/1/05
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"Eryn Vorn" <eryn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:19:22 -0000, "Slartibartfast"
> <sla...@celynnen.FJORDSdemon.co.uk> wrote:
>-- SNIP --<

In short, not much different than the HiMD we had before. What's the
difference?

Tom P.


Eryn Vorn

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Apr 2, 2005, 11:30:46 PM4/2/05
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On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 18:03:38 GMT, "Henry Padilla"
<padi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>
>
>In short, not much different than the HiMD we had before. What's the
>difference?
>
>Tom P.
>

The hybrid Atrac / MP3. Why wait hours for your latest mp3 audiobook
get transfered into your unit after convertion into atrac?

You can record in Linear PCM and travel with your mp3 library using a
single tool.

Eryn.

Slartibartfast

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Apr 2, 2005, 7:08:51 AM4/2/05
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"Eryn Vorn" <eryn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Any other thoughts on your Hi-MD so far? Is the case going to be durable?
(You mentioned fingerprints last time) How is the battery life? How quick
is the transferring of MP3s onto the unit.

We need answers!

Noam

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Apr 2, 2005, 9:22:21 AM4/2/05
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> Any other thoughts on your Hi-MD so far? Is the case going to be durable?
> (You mentioned fingerprints last time) How is the battery life? How
> quick
> is the transferring of MP3s onto the unit.
>
> We need answers!
Also,
1) most importantly, does it delete the files on the Hi-MD disc if you
attempt to upload them again to PC?
2) What is the quality of the mic preamp?
3) When you set recording levels to manual, do you have to reset it to
manual every time you operate it?- Noam


Slartibartfast

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Apr 2, 2005, 12:32:02 PM4/2/05
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"Noam" <noameitan_nospam!!!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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And most important of all: How can I buy it without my partner noticing
that this will be my second Hi-MD machine within six months???

BillB

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Apr 2, 2005, 1:05:05 PM4/2/05
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On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:32:02 +0100, Slartibartfast wrote:

> And most important of all: How can I buy it without my partner noticing
> that this will be my second Hi-MD machine within six months???

1. Buy it when your partner isn't looking.

2. Keep it in a plain brown paper bag at all times, even when it's
being used. Toss in a few worn items of underclothing. They'll
provide reasonably good shock absorbtion as well as making for a
pretty good varmint, uh, partner deterrant.

Eryn Vorn

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Apr 3, 2005, 11:58:18 AM4/3/05
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1) The case is going to be durable, because I'll have to carry it in
the soft case to avoid fingerprints collecting.

2) MP3 transfer speed: 320 MP3 (about 300 MB) in 10 minutes. The same
MP3 required 4 hours to get transcoded in Atrac and transfered on
HiMD.

3) Sonic Stage erases without warning your personal analogic recording
on the second upload attempt. This is very disturbing. However, your
first uploading with SS3.0 allows creation of a .wav file without DRM.
But ONLY ONCE.

4) I can't judge. Sorry.

5) You cannot set recording levels : in REC Settings, REC Level, I see
"CANNOT SET".

Eryn

Noam

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Apr 2, 2005, 8:52:15 PM4/2/05
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> 5) You cannot set recording levels : in REC Settings, REC Level, I see
> "CANNOT SET".
Aha! A worthless piece of junk, then. I stick to DAT and hold my breath for
Sharp to come out with HiMD - Noam


BillB

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Apr 2, 2005, 9:25:28 PM4/2/05
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On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 01:52:15 GMT, Noam wrote:

> Aha! A worthless piece of junk, then. I stick to DAT and hold my breath for
> Sharp to come out with HiMD - Noam

Eryn's in error, the recording levels can be set. His unit might
be in some incompatible mode, such as playback mode. While
recording is paused, find Rec Set and change the Rec Volume to
Manual. Whatever level you choose can also be adjusted while
recording without having to go back to the menu by turning the jog
dial. This turns the Hi-MD player into a valuable piece of junk. If
you stick to DAT I suggest that you hold your nose instead. :)

Eryn Vorn

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Apr 3, 2005, 4:45:50 PM4/3/05
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On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 02:25:28 GMT, BillB <rain...@earthlink.newt>
wrote:

Indeed, I'm wrong. Thank's for the correction. The menu should be more
precise, such as "not available in this mode", or "only when
recording". And it's not working with the left/right arrows as it
stops the recording to start a new one. The Japanese manual is showing
arrows to illustrate the adjustment, which is misleading.

In addition, the unit doesn't keep in memory the lastest setting.When
stopping and starting again, you need to pause it again and walk
through the menu items.

Eryn.

BillB

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Apr 3, 2005, 12:09:49 AM4/3/05
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On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 13:45:50 -0700, Eryn Vorn wrote:

> Indeed, I'm wrong. Thank's for the correction. The menu should be
> more precise, such as "not available in this mode", or "only when
> recording".

I agree. I got caught by the "CANNOT SET" message. It took a
while but I eventually figured it out.

> And it's not working with the left/right arrows as it stops the recording to
> start a new one. The Japanese manual is showing arrows to illustrate the
> adjustment, which is misleading.

The English manual doesn't show any arrows, but it's for the
NH900, and a different model might work differently. The manual for
the NH900 only describes changing the level by using the jog dial.


> In addition, the unit doesn't keep in memory the lastest setting.

> When stopping and starting again, you need to pause it again and


> walk through the menu items.

The manual does mention that after stopping the recording the
manual level reverts to automatic level recording. But at least the
manual level is retained. It also mentions that to set the level
manually for synchro-recording you should first set it with SYNC REC
set to SYNC Off, and after the level is set, change it to SYNC On.
You can download the English versions of the Hi-MD manuals from
www.minidisc.org. They're in PDF format and are identical to the
printed manuals. I find the printed manuals a little more
convenient, but the search capabilities of the PDF versions has
allowed me to discover things that I probably never would have
otherwise found.

Henry Padilla

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Apr 4, 2005, 7:48:09 AM4/4/05
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"Eryn Vorn" <eryn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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But is that worth $600 in 4 months?

I've already got a HiMD player. Yes it takes a while to convert my music
but that's why I do it at night.

Tom P.


nosp...@none.com

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Apr 4, 2005, 3:18:10 PM4/4/05
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Eryn Vorn <eryn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 3) Sonic Stage erases without warning your personal analogic recording
> on the second upload attempt. This is very disturbing. However, your
> first uploading with SS3.0 allows creation of a .wav file without DRM.
> But ONLY ONCE.

And they do this regardless of the no-write sticker setting on the MD
disk itself? (the write protect setting...?)

This is indeed trouble some.

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